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  1. #921
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gravy View Post
    Just got a FOAF tidbit to share:
    Person I know has a daughter who is married to an USAF officer (I don't know him personally). Daughter hasn't been able to contact her husband for a few days until today. He said he could not discuss what was going on but to watch the news tonight (Wednesday night). Told her no matter what not to worry about him but his tone has his wife and in-laws freaked out. If I get more info I will pass it on.



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    wow! Thanks Mr. Gravy.

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    Mr Gravy, thanks for the info.

    Just wanted to make sure you are fully aware you posted this on the main board, accessible to all.

    Maybe that was your intent.

    Thanks again!
    ...that those "who having no appeal on earth to right them, they are left to the only remedy in such cases, an appeal to heaven." ~ John Locke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gravy View Post
    Just got a FOAF tidbit to share:
    Person I know has a daughter who is married to an USAF officer (I don't know him personally). Daughter hasn't been able to contact her husband for a few days until today. He said he could not discuss what was going on but to watch the news tonight (Wednesday night). Told her no matter what not to worry about him but his tone has his wife and in-laws freaked out. If I get more info I will pass it on.
    Noooo, with a name like Mr. Gravy you need to give us Steak & Potatoes.

    Will be watching the news tonite with even more attention. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Gravy View Post
    Just got a FOAF tidbit to share:
    Person I know has a daughter who is married to an USAF officer (I don't know him personally). Daughter hasn't been able to contact her husband for a few days until today. He said he could not discuss what was going on but to watch the news tonight (Wednesday night). Told her no matter what not to worry about him but his tone has his wife and in-laws freaked out. If I get more info I will pass it on.
    This would match up with a conversation I had with someone recently. They said the 12th and no later then the 15th. He told me to pack up and head to the farm (his families homestead) when it goes down. I said what if my truck doesn't start---he said that won't be the problem but to start walking if that does happen. He also said he will be unreachable then---cellphone will not be on him or anywhere near him. Is he prone to BSing people---not in the time I've known him. This is not meant to freak anyone out, it just lines up with what others seem to be hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrystalKlear View Post
    This would match up with a conversation I had with someone recently. They said the 12th and no later then the 15th. He told me to pack up and head to the farm (his families homestead) when it goes down. I said what if my truck doesn't start---he said that won't be the problem but to start walking if that does happen. He also said he will be unreachable then---cellphone will not be on him or anywhere near him. Is he prone to BSing people---not in the time I've known him. This is not meant to freak anyone out, it just lines up with what others seem to be hearing.
    So this sounds like an EMP..is that what you took from what he said also?
    May God be with us in the coming days

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrystalKlear View Post
    This would match up with a conversation I had with someone recently. They said the 12th and no later then the 15th. He told me to pack up and head to the farm (his families homestead) when it goes down. I said what if my truck doesn't start---he said that won't be the problem but to start walking if that does happen. He also said he will be unreachable then---cellphone will not be on him or anywhere near him. Is he prone to BSing people---not in the time I've known him. This is not meant to freak anyone out, it just lines up with what others seem to be hearing.
    The bit in bold got my attention, in particular. Yikes.

  8. #928
    Quote Originally Posted by KrystalKlear View Post
    This would match up with a conversation I had with someone recently. They said the 12th and no later then the 15th. He told me to pack up and head to the farm (his families homestead) when it goes down. I said what if my truck doesn't start---he said that won't be the problem but to start walking if that does happen. He also said he will be unreachable then---cellphone will not be on him or anywhere near him. Is he prone to BSing people---not in the time I've known him. This is not meant to freak anyone out, it just lines up with what others seem to be hearing.
    Wow!

    Thanks, I think. LOL
    can I ask what he told you to "pack up" and bring?

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    He gave me the impression that EMP was not it----that was my fear. But he didn't say that it's not possible. I joked and said get the wagon out cause I'm to old to walk that far. This person giving up cell was key to me also.

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    The Senate just passed a bill that demands NK pass a background check prior to launching a missile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joyfulheart View Post
    Wow!

    Thanks, I think. LOL
    can I ask what he told you to "pack up" and bring?
    Well the farm has everything-----he knows I'm up on prepping so if driving the truck would be full----walking is another issue.

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    North Korea missile 'fuelled and ready for launch': South warns nukes could be fired TODAY as madman dictator shuts tourist border with China


    LOTS of pictures and video at link

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...der-China.html


    PUBLISHED: 02:48 EST, 10 April 2013 | UPDATED: 11:48 EST, 10 April 2013

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    The U.S. is preparing to intercept a North Korean missile launch amid fears the rogue communist state could launch an attack today.

    The eyes of the world were today on the secretive nation after South Korea warned that the prospect of a missile attack was 'considerably high’.

    North Korea's attack system on the east coast is ‘fuelled and ready to launch’ and it has also closed its tourist border with China in a sign of freshly escalating tensions.

    But the U.S. insists it is ready to shoot any North Korean missile out of the sky. The situation has become so tense that some foreigners in Seoul fled the city.




    At the ready: Japanese forces set up Patriot anti-missile defence systems in Tokyo today as the threat level over a North Korea missile launch was raised to 'vital'

    Primed: Japan mobilised its tropps as it was claimed by U.S. and South Korean sources that at least one previously untested missile with a 3,000km (2,000-mile) range is fuelled and ready for launch

    Primed: Japan mobilised its tropps as it was claimed by U.S. and South Korean sources that at least one previously untested missile with a 3,000km (2,000-mile) range is fuelled and ready for launch

    There were also reports that North Korea's army is split over leader Kim Jong-un's threats to wage an all-out war with the West.

    The madman dictator is said to be facing an insurgency from within his own military despite threatening to launch missiles that could reach Japan.

    As the peninsula edges ever closer to war, there were reports that the military is split over the young dictator's aggression, which may stem from a desire to rein in his discontented but powerful generals.

    First Lieutenant Kim, 42, said he had been forced to flee North Korea after he murdered a rival officer as factions in his unit vied for control.

    'I killed a three-star company commander, the same rank as me,' he said. 'He was the head of the faction supporting Kim Jong-un. There were two fights. In the first fight, they surrounded us and arrested a lot of people.

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    'But I got away and gathered others from the barracks. We found them and I shot the commander. After that, I escaped.'

    The Daily Telegraph reported that the battles occurred at the end of 2011, shortly before Kim Jong-un succeeded his father as the 'supreme commander' of the 1.2million-strong Korean People's Army.
    Tension: South Korean army soldiers patrol along a barbed wire fence in Paju, near the demilitarized zone of Panmunjom, South Korea today

    Tension: South Korean army soldiers patrol along a barbed wire fence in Paju, near the demilitarized zone of Panmunjom, South Korea today
    A South Korean vehicle - complete with padding taped to the roof - and workers return from the Kaesong industrial complex, a joint business zone operated by both Koreas

    A South Korean vehicle - complete with luggage taped to the roof - and workers return from the Kaesong industrial complex, a joint business zone operated by both Koreas
    Escape: A car loaded with boxes arrives in South Korea from the Kaesong joint industrial complex

    Escape: A car loaded with boxes arrives in South Korea from the Kaesong joint industrial complex

    He said there may have been a violent disagreement between two major departments over army reconnaissance last year, possibly alarming the 30-year-old and spurring him on to tighten his grip on power.

    This view is echoed by North Korean defector Kim Hyun-hee, who today told an Australian broadcaster: 'Kim Jong-un is too young and too inexperienced. He's struggling to gain complete control over the military and to win their loyalty.'

    South Korea fears Pyongyang could launch up to three different types of missiles. One unnamed official told the Yonhap news agency: 'There are clear signs that the North could simultaneously fire off Musudan, Scud and Nodong missiles.'

    In rare cases, foreigners have heeded Pyongyang's warnings and fled Seoul, despite repeated attempts by analysts to play down Pyongyang’s aggressive rhetoric.

    'One of my friends left for the airport this morning,' said Zoe Chau, a hotel receptionist from Hong Kong told North Korea News. 'She felt Seoul was too close to the action so bought a ticket to Jeju Island, she’s there now.'

    The U.S. and South Korea believe dictator Kim Jong-un may test fire a nuclear-capable missile with a 3,000km (2,000-mile) range at any time and without issuing a standard notice to commercial aviation and maritime shipping so they can avoid the area.
    Observers and North Koreans who fled the country say the young dictator wishes to tighten his precarious grip on power

    North Koreans who fled the country say the young dictator wishes to tighten his precarious grip on power

    South Korean Foreign Minister Yun Byung-Se told a parliamentary hearing: 'According to intelligence obtained by our side and the U.S., the possibility of a missile launch by North Korea is very high.'

    North Korea, he added, could launch a Musudan missile 'at any time from now'.

    A border crossing between North Korea and China was closed to tourist groups as the Korean peninsula edged closer to nuclear war.

    The Obama administration believes North Korea will likely test one of its mobile ballistic missiles imminently after the most recent intelligence showed Pyongyang had probably completed its launch preparations.
    A map showing North Korea missile ranges. The Pentagon has announced it is deploying missile defense systems to the U.S. base in Guam and missile defense ships to sea between Japan and the rogue nation

    A map showing North Korea missile ranges. The Pentagon has announced it is deploying missile defense systems to the U.S. base in Guam and missile defense ships to sea between Japan and the rogue nation
    South Korean soldiers keep watch on North Korea through binoculars from an observation post near the border village of Panmunjom

    South Korean soldiers keep watch on North Korea through binoculars from an observation post near the border village of Panmunjom
    Leave, now: Foreign tourists pose for a picture in Seoul. North Korea urged foreigners in South Korea to evacuate

    Leave, now: Foreign tourists pose for a picture in Seoul. North Korea urged foreigners in South Korea to evacuate

    But a U.S. official said there was no guarantee North Korea would give any warning of its launch to civilians.

    'We hope they issue a notification, but at this point we don't expect it. We are working on the assumption they won't,' the unnamed official told CNN.

    In anticipation, the South Korea-U.S. Combined Forces have raised their alert level to Watchcon 2 - a vital threat - to increase surveillance monitoring, Yonhap news agency quoted a senior military official as saying.
    PYONGYANG MARATHON WILL GO AHEAD DESPITE WAR ON HORIZON

    Having threatened to bomb the United States and warned foreigners to leave South Korea due to an impending thermonuclear war, North Korea said today it was readying for a marathon to celebrate its founder's birthday.

    The North's state news agency said a big contingent of foreign runners was expected from countries including Ukraine, the Czech Republic, Zimbabwe, Kenya and Ethiopia as well as 600 North Koreans at the April 14 race.

    'I think enthusiasm for the upcoming tournament is running high among local marathoners and their coaches as never before,' the KCNA news agency cited Ham Chang-hyok of the Sports Ministry as saying.

    This is the 26th time the Mangyongdae Prize International Marathon has been held.

    Watchcon 4 is in effect during normal peacetime, while Watchcon 3 reflects indications of an important threat. Watchcon 1 is used in wartime.

    U.S. defenses could intercept a ballistic missile launched by North Korea if it decides to strike, said Admiral Samuel Locklear, the top American military commander in the Pacific.

    Locklear told the Senate Armed Services Committee that he was confident that the U.S. military can thwart North Korea if it chooses to act.

    Foreign minister Yun said he was coordinating with China and Russia 'to make efforts to persuade North Korea to change its attitude'.

    China is North Korea's sole major ally, although its influence over Pyongyang is open to question and Beijing has, in any event, backed the new sanctions.

    Moscow backed North Korea in Soviet times, though its influence has waned unquestionably.

    A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman issued a fresh appeal for restraint on the Korean peninsula and said nothing about any possible effort to bring about a change in the North's policy.

    Patricia Lewis, Research Director at the London-based think tank Chatham House, said that strictly on the basis of the North's vast conventional forces, caution was required.

    'The conventional military capabilities of North Korea are all too real and all too close to Seoul,' she wrote in a paper. 'Any incursion could escalate involving the U.S. and Japan, China, perhaps Russia and others.'

    Pyongyang has tested short-range Scud missiles. The longer-range Musudan and Nodong missiles are an unknown quantity.

    UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said during a visit to Rome that he had spoken to the Chinese leadership to try to calm tensions, and would discuss the issue with US President Barack Obama tomorrow.

    'The current level of tension is very dangerous, a small incident caused by miscalculation or misjudgement may create an uncontrollable situation,' Ban said.

    Yesterday, North Korea warned all foreigners to evacuate South Korea yesterday because the two countries are on the verge of a nuclear war - as Japan set up a huge new anti-missile system in Tokyo.

    In a further sign of rising nuclear tensions, a key border crossing between North Korea and China has been closed to tourist groups, a Chinese official said Wednesday.
    A North Korean soldier passes by roadside propaganda depicting a North Korean soldier killing a U.S. soldier in Pyongyang, North Korea today. The poster reads in Korean

    A North Korean man passes by roadside propaganda depicting a soldier killing a U.S. soldier in Pyongyang, North Korea today. The poster reads in Korean 'Life or Death Battle. Merciless Punishment to U.S. Imperialists and Puppet Traitors'
    Business as usual: A North Korean man drives a small tractor in central Pyongyang

    Business as usual: A North Korean man drives a small tractor in central Pyongyang
    Keeping watch: A North Korean patrol boat cruises the Yalu River after a key border crossing between North Korea and China was closed to tourist groups as nuclear tensions mounted

    Keeping watch: A North Korean patrol boat cruises the Yalu River after a key border crossing between North Korea and China was closed to tourist groups as nuclear tensions mounted

    An official at the Dandong Border Office, who declined to give his name, told AFP: 'Travel agencies are not allowed to take tourist groups to go there, since the North Korean government is now asking foreign people to leave. As far as I know, business people can enter and leave North Korea freely.'

    A woman surnamed Wu at a travel agency in the town said municipal authorities told it not to take tours into North Korea.

    'It was absolutely North Korea's (decision) because the travel bureau told us "North Korea is now no longer allowing tour groups to be taken in",' the woman told 9 News World.

    'WE'RE STILL GOING': TOUR OPERATORS SAY TRIPS TO PARIAH STATE WILL GO AHEAD

    Western tour operators 'Koryo Tours' and 'Young Pioneer Tours' both said today that there were no plans to cancel any of their forthcoming tours, making it unclear if the suspension applied to everyone.

    'We have a group in the county at the moment led by Dan, one of our guides, and he phoned in today on his mobile saying everything is as normal as it ever is,' Nick Bonner of Koryo Tours wrote on the tour group’s Facebook page.

    Meanwhile the United Kingdom’s Foreign and Commonwealth Office continues to say that travel to North Korea remains unaffected by the latest tensions.

    It said: 'Our overall assessment is that there is currently no immediate increased risk or danger to those living in or travelling to the DPRK as a result of these statements.'

    Dandong-based Explore North Korea published a notification last night telling customers that all tours to the DPRK would be cancelled until further notice.

    Following a nearly two hour long meeting with North Korean tour officials, the Chinese company, which normally brings western visitors to North Korea, posted an advisory adding that tours would only be resumed once official confirmation was provided by North Korea, reports NK News.

    Leonid Petrov, a researcher at the Australian National University in Canberra, told NK News that the move showed a 'logical' and 'consistent' approach to escalating a feeling of crisis on the peninsula.

    He said: 'War zones are incompatible with joint industrial parks, travel groups or even with foreign embassies. Pyongyang wants to convince the world that Korea will soon be engulfed in the flames of nuclear inferno.

    'The scary truth is that this can really happen regardless of who makes the first shot. 'China is North Korea's sole major ally and the provider of the vast majority of its trade and aid, with most of the business passing through Dandong.'

    The rising tensions come just days before the April 15 birthday of North Korea's founder, historically a time when it seeks to draw the world's attention with dramatic displays of military power.

    In Pyongyang, however, the focus today was less on preparing for war and more on beautifying the city ahead of the nation's biggest holiday.

    Soldiers hammered away on construction projects, gardeners got down on their knees to plant flowers and trees, and students marched off to school, belying a sense that tensions on the Korean Peninsula have reached their highest point since the Korean War ended nearly 60 years ago.

    Last year, the days surrounding the centennial of the birth of Kim Sung-il, grandfather of the current ruler, was marked by parades of tanks, goose-stepping soldiers and missiles, as well as the failed launch of a satellite-carrying rocket widely believed by the U.S. and its allies in the West to be a test of ballistic missile capabilities.
    Mobilising: South Korean soldiers ride a military truck on the road leading to North Korea at a military checkpoint in the border city of Paju

    Mobilising: South Korean soldiers ride a military truck on the road leading to North Korea at a military checkpoint in the border city of Paju

    Threat level raised: A South Korean military vehicle drives past barricades on the road leading to North Korea, which is expecting to launch a missile 'at any time'

    Threat level raised: A South Korean military vehicle drives past barricades on the road leading to North Korea, which is expecting to launch a missile 'at any time'
    On standby: South Korean soldiers ride a military truck on the road leading to North Korea as the co-ordinated military surveillance status was upgraded

    On standby: South Korean soldiers ride a military truck on the road leading to North Korea as the co-ordinated military surveillance status was upgraded

    A subsequent test in December went off successfully, and that was followed by the country's third underground nuclear test on Feb. 12 this year, a step toward mastering the technology for mounting an atomic bomb on a missile.

    The resulting U.N. sanctions have been met with an unending string of threats and provocations from the North, raising tensions on the peninsula to their highest point since the end of the Korean War in 1953, according to some experts.

    The moves are seen as an attempt by North Korea to scare foreigners into pressing their governments to pressure Washington and Seoul to avert a conflict, and boost the militaristic credentials of its young and relatively untested leader, Kim Jong-un.
    NORTH KOREA CYBER ATTACK 'SHUT DOWN 32,000 COMPUTERS IN THE SOUTH'

    North Korean government agents were behind a March cyber attack that shut down about 32,000 computers and servers at South Korean broadcasters and banks, an investigation has found.

    An official at South Korea's internet security agency, Chun Kil-soo, told reporters Wednesday that the attack was similar to past North Korean hacking. He said investigators believe that six computers in North Korea were used to access South Korean servers using more than 1,000 IP addresses overseas.

    The accusation comes as tensions run high on the Korean Peninsula, with North Korea delivering increasingly belligerent rhetoric in anger over UN sanctions and US-South Korean military drills.

    On Tuesday, the North said a nuclear war is imminent and recommended that foreigners in South Korea evacuate to safe places.

    Pyongyang advised foreign embassies to consider evacuating their citizens by Wednesday, and warned tourists in South Korea to leave Seoul in case of an outbreak of war.

    However, most diplomats and foreign residents appeared to be staying put.

    In Seoul, the defense ministry official said the North appeared prepared to carry out a missile launch at any time. He spoke on condition of anonymity, saying he wasn't authorized to speak to the media.

    He said Pyongyang's military is capable of conducting multiple missile launches involving Scud and medium-range Rodong missiles, as well as a missile transported to the east coast recently. He refused to say how Seoul obtained the information.

    Admiral Samuel Locklear, commander of U.S. Pacific Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee in Washington yesterday that he concurred with an assessment by Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., calling the tension between North Korea and the West the worst since the end of the Korean War.

    'The continued advancement of the North's nuclear and missile programs, its conventional force posture, and its willingness to resort to asymmetric actions as a tool of coercive diplomacy creates an environment marked by the potential for miscalculation,' Locklear told the panel.

    He said the U.S. military and its allies would be ready if North Korea tries to strike.

    Despite such tidings of war, the people of Pyongyang went about their daily lives.

    Associated Press journalists in the North Korean capital saw soldiers wearing hard hats rumbling past in the back of a truck as they prepared for another day's work doing construction.

    In recent years, military personnel have been pressed into helping build the many urban renewal projects that have been prioritised since Kim Jong-un came to power in December 2011.

    The event came as Pyongyang warned foreigners to leave the South, saying the two Koreas are on the verge of civil war

    Event came as Pyongyang warned foreigners to leave the South, saying two Koreas are on verge of civil war

    In a sign they have been diverted away from preparing for conventional warfare, they are commonly referred to as 'soldier-builders' and are also called upon to help plant and harvest rice and other crops in a nation that suffers chronically from food shortages.

    North Korea sporadically holds civil air raid drills during which citizens practice blacking out their windows and seeking shelter. But no such drills have been held in recent months, local residents said.

    'I'm not at all worried. We have confidence in our young marshal' Kim Jong-un, a cleaning lady at the Koryo Hotel said as she made up a guest's bed. 'The rest of the world can just squawk all they want but we have confidence in his leadership.

    'We are resolved to stay and defend him until the end,' she said. 'It may be hard for the rest of the world to understand, and those who are worried are welcome to leave,' she said in the typical nationalistic style that North Koreans use while talking to foreigners.

    But there was no sign of an exodus of foreigners from Seoul or Pyongyang.

    Britain and other governments with embassies in Pyongyang said they had no immediate plans to withdraw but would continue assessing the situation.

    North Korea has been escalating tensions with the U.S. and South Korea, its wartime foes, for months.

    North Korea has warned all foreigners to leave South Korea as Kim Jong-un's government continues to increase tensions on the Korean Peninsula

    North Korea has warned all foreigners to leave South Korea as Kim Jong-un's government continues to increase tensions on the Korean Peninsula
    North Korean children carrying brooms help tidy up the area around bronze statues of the late leaders

    North Korean children carrying brooms help tidy up the area around bronze statues of the late leaders

    The tightened U.N. sanctions that followed the nuclear test drew the ire of North Korea, which accused Washington and Seoul of leading the campaign against it.

    Annual U.S.-South Korean military drills south of the border have further incensed Pyongyang, which sees them as practice for an invasion.

    Last week, Kim Jong-un enshrined the pursuit of nuclear weapons - which the North characterizes as a defense against the U.S. - as a national goal, along with improving the economy. North Korea also declared it would restart a mothballed nuclear complex.
    NORTH KOREA'S MISSILE THREAT

    The Musudan, also known as the Nodong-B or the Taepodong-X, is an intermediate-range ballistic missile. It has a range of 3,000 kilometres (1,800 miles) - that would make Japan and South Korea potential targets, but little is known about the missile's accuracy.

    The KN-08 is an 18-metre long missile that North Korea claims has a range of 10,000 miles, putting the U.S. in range, but military experts believe 6,000 miles is more realistic.

    It is a concern as it is road-mobile and easy to hide.

    North Korea isn't thought to have nuclear-armed missiles that can hit the United States and, despite threats, is extremely unlikely to launch a direct attack on Seoul or its U.S. ally, knowing that military retaliation would threaten the leadership's survival.

    This week the Pentagon deployed two Aegis-equipped missile defense ships to operate off the Korean peninsula.

    Citing the tensions with Seoul, North Korea on Monday pulled more than 50,000 workers from the Kaesong industrial park, which combines South Korean technology and know-how with cheap North Korean labor.

    It was the first time that production was stopped at the decade-old factory park, the only remaining symbol of economic co-operation between the Koreas.

    Pyongyang also has moved to its eastern seaboard what is believed by U.S. and South Korean intelligence to be a mid-range missile capable of hitting targets in Japan, such as the U.S. military installations on that country's main island.

    Another possibility is that Pyongyang would launch such a missile into the sea as a display of its military prowess.

    The United States and South Korea have raised their defense postures, as has Japan, which deployed PAC-3 missile interceptors in key locations around Tokyo. And Locklear said the U.S. military would be ready to strike back if provoked.

    One historian, James Person, noted that it isn't the first time North Korea has warned foreign embassies to prepare for a U.S. attack.

    He said that in 1968, following North Korea's seizure of an American ship, the USS Pueblo, Pyongyang persistently advised foreign diplomats to prepare for a U.S. counterattack.

    Cables from the Romanian mission in Pyongyang showed embassies were instructed to build anti-air bunkers 'to protect foreigners against air attacks,' he said.

    The cables were obtained and posted online by the Wilson Center's North Korea International Documentation Project.
    Young North Korean workers and students climb stairs to the base of bronze statues of the late leaders Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il during an event to pledge loyalty to the country in Pyongyang

    Young North Korean workers and students climb stairs to the base of bronze statues of the late leaders Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il during an event to pledge loyalty to the country in Pyongyang

    Person called it one of North Korea's first forays into what he dubs 'military adventurism.'

    'In 1968, there was some concern there would be an attack, but (the North Koreans) certainly were building it up to be more than it was in hopes of getting more assistance from their allies at the time,' Person said by phone from Alexandria, Virginia.

    'I think much of it was hot air then. Today, I think again it's more hot air,' he said. 'The idea is to scare people into pressuring the United States to return to negotiations with North Korea. That's the bottom line.'

    South Korean President Park Geun-hye, who has sought to re-engage North Korea with dialogue and humanitarian aid since taking office in February, expressed exasperation yesterday with what she called the 'endless vicious cycle' of Seoul answering Pyongyang's hostile behavior with compromise, only to get more hostility.
    'FUN SIGHTSEEING AND GOOD FOOD: U.S. AMBASSADOR BLOGS ON PLEASURE SPOTS IN SOUTH KOREA AS THREAT OF NUCLEAR WAR LOOMS

    The U.S. ambassador to South Korea yesterday blogged about his family vacation, seemingly unconcerned by the ratcheting tension on the peninsula.

    He wrote on Cafe USA, a website for the embassy in Seoul, that he spent time with his two daughters in Jinhae, famous for its beautiful cherry blossoms. He said: 'The blossoms were stunning. If you have never been down, I suggest you go. It is like driving through a tunnel completely made of cherry blossoms.'

    He also had glowing praise for the food in Busan. 'The first night in Busan, we ate very fresh hwe, or raw fish, at a famous local restaurant,' he said.

    'My daughters would not let me eat anything that was still moving, but everything we did have was delicious.'

    Unfortunately, the threat of impending war forced him to abandon his trip. He said: 'As new threats started coming from North Korea, I got busy with work.

    'I had many calls and emails with Washington policymakers, senior South Korean officials, and U.S. Forces Korea. My BlackBerry was very busy.'

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    Does anyone think that possibly NK is waiting for our Sec of State to visit Seoul later this week before they attack Seoul? I wouldnt put it past them. But it surely would be all out war if they take him out. And we cant stay the visit as it would make NK think they had power over us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workerbee View Post
    Mr Gravy, thanks for the info.

    Just wanted to make sure you are fully aware you posted this on the main board, accessible to all.

    Maybe that was your intent.

    Thanks again!
    Yeah I posted it on main cause they were not keeping it a secret and was telling a group of people.

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    Wow, you guys......this isn't helping the OVEWHELMING sense of the heebies I woke with this morning. I attributed it to the fact that we have some major storms and pressure changes rolling into the area. But I've had the jitters since the moment the alarm went off. I'm hearing odd noises, jumpy, and have the strangest feeling of wanting to look over my shoulder. Constantly. Something feels different about it.

  16. #936
    Nice details. Intel info that summarizes AND details recent activity in N. Korea.

    http://www.osen-hunter.com/images/in...april%2010.pdf

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    Does anyone know when the Reuters live stream is to come back online?

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    I hate to leave everyone hanging but I've got to get to work. I will see if this person has anymore to say today if he shows. No news is good news--I think??

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    Extended series of EAM/FDMs going off the last 20 minutes or so:

    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo 5 View Post
    Extended series of EAM/FDMs going off the last 20 minutes or so:

    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
    What is that?
    Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychgirl View Post
    What is that?
    Sorry.
    It is:
    On this page you can listen to and control a short-wave receiver located at the amateur radio club ETGD at the University of Twente. In contrast to other web-controlled receivers, this receiver can be tuned by multiple users simultaneously, thanks to the use of Software-Defined Radio

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    Didnt the scenario in One Second After start in early spring? Sorry if this is off topic but I just thought of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychgirl View Post
    What is that?
    Sorry.
    EAMs are:
    In the U.S. military's strategic nuclear weapon command and control system, an Emergency Action Message (EAM) is a preformatted message that directs nuclear-capable forces to execute specific Major Attack Options (MAOs) or Limited Attack Options (LAOs) in a nuclear war. Individual countries or specific regions may be included or withheld in the EAM, as specified in the Single Integrated Operational Plan (SIOP).[1]
    In the United States, the EAM will be issued from the National Military Command Center (NMCC) at the Pentagon or, if it has been destroyed by an enemy first strike, by the Alternate National Military Command Center - Site R at Raven Rock or by the Boeing E-4B National Airborne Operations Center (NAOC).
    The messages are sent in digital format to nuclear-capable major commands via the secure Automatic Digital Network (AUTODIN). The messages are then relayed to aircraft that are on alert by the U.S. Strategic Command at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska, via single-sideband modulation radio transmitters of the High Frequency Global Communications System (formerly known as the Global High Frequency Service). The EAM is relayed to missile-firing nuclear submarines via special transmitters designed for communication with submarines. The transmitters include those designed to operate at Very Low Frequency (VLF). The submarines pick up the message via special antennas. Nuclear-capable forces will then be expected to carry out an EAM without fail. Manned bombers may be recalled, but missiles fired from land-based silos or from submarines cannot be recalled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrystalKlear View Post
    I hate to leave everyone hanging but I've got to get to work. I will see if this person has anymore to say today if he shows. No news is good news--I think??

    Thanks. Hopefully you can find out some for info.
    May God be with us in the coming days

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    'What's Kim Jong Un doing? Starving his people with a military 1st policy. It's pretty hard to figure it out,' Gen. Dempsey says - broadcast


    1 hour ago by editor
    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    Steve Herman ‏@W7VOA 3m
    US SecDef Hagel: Kim Jong Un and his country "unpredictable" and approaching a dangerous line. #DPRK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo 5 View Post
    Extended series of EAM/FDMs going off the last 20 minutes or so:

    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
    I have 11.175.00 on the radio now. lots of EAMs going on right now.

    If you have a shortwave radio simply tune into 11175.00 USB and listen in.

    Rest of the frequencies are here as well http://www.milaircomms.com/ghfs.html This is the military's Global High Frequency System.
    Please stop calling me a "cracker." The correct term in "Saltine-American."

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    I wonder if NK is a launch on warning actor?
    Go to Church. Pray.
    "Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him. As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God. But let the righteous be glad; let them rejoice before God: yea, let them exceedingly rejoice" ....Psalm 68

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    I don't have any important information to add. I just wanted to say that I am a basket case with this whole situation. My anxiety is thru the roof & this waiting game has me on the verge of tears. I have been glued to this thread for the last several days and could not sleep last night at all! It's not going to change anything by me putting this out here but I just felt that maybe someone else here can relate. As a mother and living here in the PNW I am just on pins and needles with fear about all of the threats being made and specifically those to our area of the country. This is one reason why I prep but I feel so unprepared. I'm sorry, I am just feeling very emotional about all this. Thought writing (typing) it down would help in some strange way.
    Thank you to each and every one of you for your time, information and efforts to keep us all up to date and informed.

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    BinWa,my heart goes out to you!
    I'm keeping you in my prayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BinWa View Post
    I don't have any important information to add. I just wanted to say that I am a basket case with this whole situation. My anxiety is thru the roof & this waiting game has me on the verge of tears. I have been glued to this thread for the last several days and could not sleep last night at all! It's not going to change anything by me putting this out here but I just felt that maybe someone else here can relate. As a mother and living here in the PNW I am just on pins and needles with fear about all of the threats being made and specifically those to our area of the country. This is one reason why I prep but I feel so unprepared. I'm sorry, I am just feeling very emotional about all this. Thought writing (typing) it down would help in some strange way.
    Thank you to each and every one of you for your time, information and efforts to keep us all up to date and informed.
    Thank you for sharing! Do you hae something to do to keep yourself busy? I went back to college which has been a huge distraction from all this. I know it is saving my sanity now. I can completely relate to how you feel and would also like to thank everybody for keeping us updated.

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    Regarding the EAMs, wasn't there some kind of drill scheduled that these could be a part of? Was it the DC airspace thing, or was that something different?
    Tera mangal, tera mangal, tera mangal hoye re.

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    BinWA ,
    I'm a mom in the pnw area. If you need someone to chat with that knows how you feel, pm me your txt number if you have one, if not we can email. I never seem to have time for many phone conversations, but I always keep up my txting. Hugs

  34. #954
    Corrected: Retweeted, story had a January dateline! My bad for following link on Twitter...

    Nathan Hunt has issued correction on the tweet below:

    North Korea: New Nuclear Test to be part of fight against US

    N.Korea plans nuclear test, rocket launch

    North Korea said Thursday that it plans to carry out a new nuclear test and further long-range rocket launches, all of which it said are a part of a new phase of confrontation with the United States.

    The North's National Defense Commission said the moves would feed into an "upcoming all-out action" that would target the United States, "the sworn enemy of the Korean people."

    Carried by the state-run Korean Central News Agency, the defense commission statement followed a United Nations Security Council resolution on Tuesday that condemned North Korea's recent rocket launch and expanded existing sanctions.

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/23...rocket-launch/

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    Is lil Kim still in charge or has the military obstructed him? Just wondering....

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    OK Skyking messages are now being sent on the frequecy. Here is a quick description of what they are

    " A second group of coded messages heard on the GHFS (and the ones that produce the most comments from new listeners because of the "SKYKING do not answer" nature of the broadcasts) are the so-called FOXTROT broadcasts. These are heard only on the GHFS frequencies listed in the previous paragraph and take the form of the GHFS operator broadcasting a message that states "SKYKING, SKYKING. Do not answer. [3-element alpha-numeric group] [minutestamp] [time dependent two-character authenticator]" and repeated once.

    These transmissions appear to be initiated by any of the GHFS ground stations except ASCENSION and HICKAM, with the initiating ground station prefacing the broadcast with a codeword that can consist of DECENT (or DESCENT), ENLIST, FAIRLY, EYESTRAIN (or sounds as), DEFROSTER, "ANY STATION" and maybe one more codeword recently reported. The codeword appears to determine which other GHFS ground stations are to "echo" the transmission. As an example, the DECENT transmission appears to apply only to CONUS stations while all the others appear to apply (with an occasional exception) to non-CONUS stations that fall outside an arc from Guam to Japan to Alaska to Greenland to the UK to the Azores.

    These coded messages are said to be *only* for the positive control of ACC/AMC airborne forces detailed to the U.S. Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM). These messages appear to have higher priority on the GHFS voice circuits than do the EAM transmissions as an EAM transmission will be terminated in midstring in order to immediately transmit these "SKYKING" DNA broadcasts. "

    http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/eam.html
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    And what does this mean in the real world. Has the urgency of the messages moved up a notch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BinWa View Post
    I don't have any important information to add. I just wanted to say that I am a basket case with this whole situation. My anxiety is thru the roof & this waiting game has me on the verge of tears. I have been glued to this thread for the last several days and could not sleep last night at all! It's not going to change anything by me putting this out here but I just felt that maybe someone else here can relate. As a mother and living here in the PNW I am just on pins and needles with fear about all of the threats being made and specifically those to our area of the country. This is one reason why I prep but I feel so unprepared. I'm sorry, I am just feeling very emotional about all this. Thought writing (typing) it down would help in some strange way.
    Thank you to each and every one of you for your time, information and efforts to keep us all up to date and informed.
    BinWa, You have a PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by library lady View Post
    And what does this mean in the real world. Has the urgency of the messages moved up a notch?
    Yes, please let us know!
    May God be with us in the coming days

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    Quote Originally Posted by BinWa View Post
    I don't have any important information to add. I just wanted to say that I am a basket case with this whole situation. My anxiety is thru the roof & this waiting game has me on the verge of tears. I have been glued to this thread for the last several days and could not sleep last night at all! It's not going to change anything by me putting this out here but I just felt that maybe someone else here can relate. As a mother and living here in the PNW I am just on pins and needles with fear about all of the threats being made and specifically those to our area of the country. This is one reason why I prep but I feel so unprepared. I'm sorry, I am just feeling very emotional about all this. Thought writing (typing) it down would help in some strange way.
    Thank you to each and every one of you for your time, information and efforts to keep us all up to date and informed.
    How do you think I feel? My oldest son is stationed right in Seoul, with his wife and their two kids (one of whom is a 16 month old little girl). Yeah, I have some pucker factor going. But you know, all my anxiety won't change whatever's going to happen. I can worry myself into a coma, or I can give it up to God.

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