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    All Wars Are Bankers Wars

    All Wars Are Bankers Wars

    1/14/2013
    by Michael Rivero

    Bank Wars Part 1


    Bank Wars Part 2


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    ALL WARS ARE BANKERS' WARS!
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    I know many people have a great deal of difficulty comprehending just how many wars are started for no other purpose than to force private central banks onto nations, so let me share a few examples, so that you understand why the US Government is mired in so many wars against so many foreign nations. There is ample precedent for this.

    The United States fought the American Revolution primarily over King George III's Currency act, which forced the colonists to conduct their business only using printed bank notes borrowed from the Bank of England at interest. After the revolution, the new United States adopted a radically different economic system in which the government issued its own value-based money, so that private banks like the Bank of England were not siphoning off the wealth of the people through interest-bearing bank notes.

    "The refusal of King George 3rd to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, was probably the prime cause of the revolution." -- Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father

    But bankers are nothing if not dedicated to their schemes to acquire your wealth, and know full well how easy it is to corrupt a nation's leaders. Just one year after Mayer Amschel Rothschild had uttered his infamous "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws", the bankers succeeded in setting up a new Private Central Bank called the First Bank of the United States, largely through the efforts of the Rothschild's chief US supporter, Alexander Hamilton. Founded in 1791, by the end of its twenty year charter the First Bank of the United States had almost ruined the nation's economy, while enriching the bankers. Congress refused to renew the charter and signaled their intention to go back to a state issued value based currency on which the people paid no interest at all to any banker. This resulted in a threat from Nathan Mayer Rothschild against the US Government, "Either the application for renewal of the charter is granted, or the United States will find itself involved in a most disastrous war." Congress still refused to renew the charter for the First Bank of the United States, whereupon Nathan Mayer Rothschild railed, "Teach those impudent Americans a lesson! Bring them back to colonial status!" Financed by the Rothschild controlled Bank of England, Britain then launched the war of 1812 to recolonize the United States and force them back into the slavery of the Bank of England, or to plunge the United States into so much debt they would be forced to accept a new private central bank. And the plan worked. Even though the War of 1812 was won by the United States, Congress was forced to grant a new charter for yet another private bank issuing the public currency as loans at interest, the Second Bank of the United States. Once again, private bankers were in control of the nation's money supply and cared not who made the laws or how many British and American soldiers had to die for it.

    Once again the nation was plunged into debt, unemployment, and poverty by the predations of the private central bank, and in 1832 Andrew Jackson successfully campaigned for his second term as President under the slogan, "Jackson And No Bank!" True to his word, Jackson succeeds in blocking the renewal of the charter for the Second Bank of the United States.
    "Gentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!" -- Andrew Jackson, shortly before ending the charter of the Second Bank of the United States. From the original minutes of the Philadelphia committee of citizens sent to meet with President Jackson (February 1834), according to Andrew Jackson and the Bank of the United States (1928) by Stan V. Henkels

    Shortly after President Jackson (the only American President to actually pay off the National Debt) ended the Second Bank of the United States, there was an attempted assassination which failed when both pistols used by the assassin, Richard Lawrence, failed to fire. Lawrence later said that with Jackson dead, "Money would be more plenty."

    Of course, the public school system is as subservient to the bankers' wishes to keep certain history from you, just as the corporate media is subservient to Monsanto's wishes to keep the dangers of GMOs from you, and the global warming cult's wishes to conceal from you that the Earth has actually been cooling for the last 16 years. Thus is should come as little surprise that much of the real reasons for the events of the Civil War are not well known to the average American.

    When the Confederacy seceded from the United States, the bankers once again saw the opportunity for a rich harvest of debt, and offered to fund Lincoln's efforts to bring the south back into the union, but at 30% interest. Lincoln remarked that he would not free the black man by enslaving the white man to the bankers and using his authority as President, issued a new government currency, the greenback. This was a direct threat to the wealth and power of the central bankers, who quickly responded.

    "If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe." -- The London Times responding to Lincoln's decision to issue government Greenbacks to finance the Civil War, rather than agree to private banker's loans at 30% interest.

    Goaded by the private bankers, much of Europe supported the Confederacy against the Union, with the expectation that victory over Lincoln would mean the end of the Greenback. France and Britain considered an outright attack on the United States to aid the confederacy, but were held at bay by Russia, which had just ended the serfdom system and had a state central bank similar to the system the United States had been founded on. Left free of European intervention, the Union won the war, and Lincoln announced his intention to go on issuing greenbacks. Following Lincoln's assassination, the Greenbacks were pulled from circulation and the American people forced to go back to an economy based on bank notes borrowed at interest from the private bankers.

    Finally, in 1913, the Private Central Bankers of Europe, in particular the Rothschilds of Great Britain and the Warburgs of Germany, met with their American financial collaborators on Jekyll Island, Georgia to form a new banking cartel with the express purpose of forming the Third Bank of the United States, with the aim of placing complete control of the United States money supply once again under the control of private bankers. Owing to hostility over the previous banks, the name was changed to "The Federal Reserve" system in order to grant the new bank a quasi-governmental image, but in fact it is a privately owned bank, no more "Federal" than Federal Express. Indeed, in 2012, the Federal Reserve successfully rebuffed a Freedom of Information Lawsuit by Bloomberg News on the grounds that as a private banking corporation and not actually a part of the government, the Freedom of Information Act did not apply to the operations of the Federal Reserve. 1913 proved to be a transformative year for the nation's economy, first with the passage of the 16th "income tax" Amendment and the false claim that it had been ratified.

    "I think if you were to go back and and try to find and review the ratification of the 16th amendment, which was the internal revenue, the income tax, I think if you went back and examined that carefully, you would find that a sufficient number of states never ratified that amendment." - U.S. District Court Judge James C. Fox, Sullivan Vs. United States, 2003.

    Later that same year, and apparently unwilling to risk another questionable amendment, Congress passed the Federal Reserve Act over Christmas holiday 1913, while members of Congress opposed to the measure were at home. This was a very underhanded deal, as the Constitution explicitly vests Congress with the authority to issue the public currency, does not authorize its delegation, and thus should have required a new Amendment to transfer that authority to a private bank. But pass it Congress did, and President Woodrow Wilson signed it as he promised the bankers he would in exchange for generous campaign contributions. Wilson later regretted that decision.

    "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -- Woodrow Wilson 1919

    The next year, World War One started, and it is important to remember that prior to the creation of the Federal Reserve, there was no such thing as a world war.

    World War One started between Austria-Hungary and Serbia, but quickly shifted to focus on Germany, whose industrial capacity was seen as an economic threat to Great Britain, who saw the decline of the British Pound as a result of too much emphasis on financial activity to the neglect of agriculture, industrial development, and infrastructure (not unlike the present day United States). Although pre-war Germany had a private central bank, it was heavily restricted and inflation kept to reasonable levels. Under government control, investment was guaranteed to internal economic development, and Germany was seen as a major power. So, in the media of the day, Germany was portrayed as the prime opponent of World War One, and not just defeated, but its industrial base flattened. Following the Treaty of Versailles, Germany was ordered to pay the war costs of all the participating nations, even though Germany had not actually started the war. This amounted to three times the value of all of Germany itself. Germany's private central bank, to whom Germany had gone deeply into debt to pay the costs of the war, broke free of government control, and massive inflation followed (mostly triggered by currency speculators) , permanently trapping the German people in endless debt.

    When the Weimar Republic collapsed economically, it opened the door for the National Socialists to take power. Their first financial move was to issue their own state currency which was not borrowed from private central bankers. Freed from having to pay interest on the money in circulation, Germany blossomed and quickly began to rebuild its industry. The media called it "The German Miracle". TIME magazine lionized Hitler for the amazing improvement in life for the German people and the explosion of German industry, and even named him TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year in 1938.




    Once again, Germany's industrial output became a threat to Great Britain.

    "Should Germany merchandise (do business) again in the next 50 years we have led this war (WW1) in vain." - Winston Churchill in The Times (1919)

    "We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." - Winston Churchill (1936 broadcast)

    "Germany becomes too powerful. We have to crush it." - Winston Churchill (November 1936 speaking to US - General Robert E. Wood)

    "This war is an English war and its goal is the destruction of Germany." - Winston Churchill (- Autumn 1939 broadcast)

    Germany's state-issued value based currency was also a direct threat to the wealth and power of the private central banks, and as early as 1933 they started to organize a global boycott against Germany to strangle this upstart ruler who thought he could break free of private central bankers!



    As had been the case in World War One, Great Britain and other nations threatened by Germany's economic power looked for an excuse to go to war, and as public anger in Germany grew over the boycott, Hitler foolishly gave them that excuse. Years later, in a spirit of candor, the real reasons for that war were made clear.
    "The war wasn't only about abolishing fascism, but to conquer sales markets. We could have, if we had intended so, prevented this war from breaking out without doing one shot, but we didn't want to."- Winston Churchill to Truman (Fultun, USA March 1946)


    "Germany's unforgivable crime before WW2 was its attempt to loosen its economy out of the world trade system and to build up an independent exchange system from which the world-finance couldn't profit anymore. ...We butchered the wrong pig." -Winston Churchill (The Second World War - Bern, 1960)

    As a side note, we need to step back before WW2 and recall Marine Major General Smedley Butler. In 1933, Wall Street bankers and financiers had bankrolled the successful coups by both Hitler and Mussolini. Brown Brothers Harriman in New York was financing Hitler right up to the day war was declared with Germany. And they decided that a fascist dictatorship in the United States based on the one on Italy would be far better for their business interests than Roosevelt's "New Deal" which threatened massive wealth re-distribution to recapitalize the working and middle class of America. So the Wall Street tycoons recruited General Butler to lead the overthrow of the US Government and install a "Secretary of General Affairs" who would be answerable to Wall Street and not the people, would crush social unrest and shut down all labor unions. General Butler pretended to go along with the scheme but then exposed the plot to Congress. Congress, then as now in the pocket of the Wall Street bankers, refused to act. When Roosevelt learned of the planned coup he demanded the arrest of the plotters, but the plotters simply reminded Roosevelt that if any one of them were sent to prison, their friends on Wall Street would deliberatly collapse the still-fragile economy and blame Roosevelt for it. Roosevelt was thus unable to act until the start of WW2, at which time he prosecuted many of the plotters under the Trading With The Enemy act. The Congressional minutes into the coup were finally released in 1967 and became the inspiration for the movie, "Seven Days in May" but with the true financial villains erased from the script.

    "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service as a member of our country's most agile military force -- the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from second lieutenant to Major General. And during that period I spent more of my time being a high--class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. "I suspected I was just a part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service. Thus I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that the Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals and promotion. Looking back on it, I feel I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts. I operated on three continents." -- General Smedley Butler, former US Marine Corps Commandant,1935

    As President, John F. Kennedy understood the predatory nature of private central banking. He understood why Andrew Jackson fought so hard to end the Second Bank of the United States. So Kennedy wrote and signed Executive Order 11110 which ordered the US Treasury to issue a new public currency, the United States Note.


    Kennedy's United States Notes were not borrowed form the Federal Reserve but created by the US Government and backed by the silver stockpiles held by the US Government. It represented a return to the system of economics the United States had been founded on, and was perfectly legal for Kennedy to do. All told, some four and one half billion dollars went into public circulation, eroding interest payments to the Federal Reserve and loosening their control over the nation. Five months later John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas Texas, and the United States Notes pulled from circulation and destroyed (except for samples held by collectors). John J. McCloy, President of the Chase Manhattan Bank, and President of the World Bank, was named to the Warren Commission, presumably to make certain the banking dimensions behind the assassination were concealed from the public.

    As we enter the eleventh year of what future history will most certainly describe as World War Three, we need to examine the financial dimensions behind the wars.

    Towards the end of World War Two, when it became obvious that the allies were going to win and dictate the post war environment, the major world economic powers met at Bretton Woods, a luxury resort in New Hampshire in July of 1944, and hammered out the Bretton Woods agreement for international finance. The British Pound lost its position as the global trade and reserve currency to the US dollar (part of the price demanded by Roosevelt in exchange for the US entry into the war). Absent the economic advantages of being the world's "go-to" currency, Britain was forced to nationalize the Bank of England in 1946. The Bretton Woods agreement, ratified in 1945, in addition to making the dollar the global reserve and trade currency, obligated the signatory nations to tie their currencies to the dollar. The nations that ratified Bretton Woods did so on two conditions. The first was that the Federal Reserve would refrain from over-printing the dollar as a means to loot real products and produce from other nations in exchange for ink and paper; basically an imperial tax. That assurance was backed up by the second requirement, which was that the US dollar would always be convertible to gold at $35 per ounce.

    Of course, the Federal Reserve, being a private bank and not answerable to the US Government, did start overprinting paper dollars, and much of the perceived prosperity of the 1950s and 1960s was the result of foreign nations' obligations to accept the paper notes as being worth gold at the rate of $35 an ounce. Then in 1970, France looked at the huge pile of paper notes sitting in their vaults, for which real French products like wine and cheese had been traded, and notified the United States government that they would exercise their option under Bretton Woods to return the paper notes for gold at the $35 per ounce exchange rate. Of course, the United States had nowhere near the gold to redeem the paper notes, so on August 15th, 1971, Richard Nixon "temporarily" suspended the gold convertibility of the US Federal Reserve Notes. This "Nixon shock" effectively ended Bretton Woods and many global currencies started to delink from the US dollar. Worse, since the United States had collateralized their loans with the nation's gold reserves, it quickly became apparent that the US Government did not in fact have enough gold to cover the outstanding debts. Foreign nations began to get very nervous about their loans to the US and understandably were reluctant to loan any additional money to the United States without some form of collateral. So Richard Nixon started the environmental movement, with the EPA and its various programs such as "wilderness zones", Roadless areas", Heritage rivers", "Wetlands", all of which took vast areas of public lands and made them off limits to the American people who were technically the owners of those lands. But Nixon had little concern for the environment and the real purpose of this land grab under the guise of the environment was to pledge those pristine lands and their vast mineral resources as collateral on the national debt. The plethora of different programs was simply to conceal the true scale of how much American land was being pledged to foreign lenders as collateral on the government's debts; eventually almost 25% of the nation itself.


    With open lands for collateral already in short supply, the US Government embarked on a new program to shore up sagging international demand for the dollar. The United States approached the world's oil producing nations, mostly in the Middle East, and offered them a deal. In exchange for only selling their oil for dollars, the United States would guarantee the military safety of those oil-rich nations. The oil rich nations would agree to spend and invest their US paper dollars inside the United States, in particular in US Treasury Bonds, redeemable through future generations of US taxpayers. The concept was labeled the "petrodollar". In effect, the US, no longer able to back the dollar with gold, was now backing it with oil. Other peoples' oil. And that necessity to keep control over those oil nations to prop up the dollar has shaped America's foreign policy in the region ever since.

    But as America's manufacturing and agriculture has declined, the oil producing nations faced a dilemma. Those piles of US Federal Reserve notes were not able to purchase much from the United States because the United States had little (other than real estate) anyone wanted to buy. Europe's cars and aircraft were superior and less costly, while experiments with GMO food crops led to nations refusing to buy US food exports. Israel's constant belligerence against its neighbors caused them to wonder if the US could actually keep their end of the petrodollar arrangement. Oil producing nations started to talk of selling their oil for whatever currency the purchasers chose to use. Iraq, already hostile to the United States following Desert Storm, demanded the right to sell their oil for Euros in 2000 and in 2002, the United Nations agreed to allow it under the "Oil for food" program instituted following Desert Storm. One year later the United States re-invaded Iraq, lynched Saddam Hussein, and placed Iraq's oil back on the world market only for US dollars.

    The clear US policy shift following 9-11, away from being an impartial broker of peace in the Mideast to one of unquestioned support for Israel's aggressions only further eroded confidence in the Petrodollar deal and even more oil producing nations started openly talking of oil trade for other global currencies.

    Over in Libya, Muammar Gaddafi had instituted a state-owned central bank and a value based trade currency, the Gold Dinar. Gaddafi announced that Libya's oil was for sale, but only for the Gold Dinar. Other African nations, seeing the rise of the Gold Dinar and the Euro, even as the US dollar continued its inflation-driven decline, flocked to the new Libyan currency for trade. This move had the potential to seriously undermine the global hegemony of the dollar. French President Nicolas Sarkozy reportedly went so far as to call Libya a “threat” to the financial security of the world. So, the United States invaded Libya, brutally murdered Qaddafi ( the object lesson of Saddam's lynching not being enough of a message, apparently), imposed a private central bank, and returned Libya's oil output to dollars only. The gold that was to have been made into the Gold Dinars is, as of last report, unaccounted for.

    According to General Wesley Clark, the master plan for the "dollarification" of the world's oil nations included seven targets, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran (Venezuela, which dared to sell their oil to China for the Yuan, is a late addition). What is notable about the original seven nations originally targeted by the US is that none of them are members of the Bank for International Settlements, the private central bankers private central bank, located in Switzerland. This meant that these nations were deciding for themselves how to run their nations' economies, rather than submit to the international private banks.

    Now the bankers' gun sights are on Iran, which dares to have a government central bank and sell their oil for whatever currency they choose. The war agenda is, as always, to force Iran's oil to be sold only for dollars and to force them to accept a privately owned central bank.

    The German government recently asked for the return of some of their gold bullion from the Bank of France and the New York Federal Reserve. France has said it will take 5 years to return Germany's gold. The United States has said they will need 8 years to return Germany's gold. This suggests strongly that the Bank of France and the NY Federal Reserve have used the deposited gold for other purposes, and they are scrambling to find new gold to cover the shortfall and prevent a gold run. So it is inevitable that suddenly France invades Mali, ostensibly to combat Al Qaeda, with the US joining in. Mali just happens to be one of the world's largest gold producers with gold accounting for 80% of Mali exports. War for the bankers does not get more obvious than that!

    You have been raised by a public school system and media that constantly assures you that the reasons for all these wars and assassinations are many and varied. The US claims to bring democracy to the conquered lands (they haven't; the usual result of a US overthrow is the imposition of a dictatorship, such as the 1953 CIA overthrow of Iran's democratically elected government of Mohammad Mosaddegh and the imposition of the Shah, or the 1973 CIA overthrow of Chile's democratically elected government of President Salvador Allende, and the imposition of Augusto Pinochet), or to save a people from a cruel oppressor, revenge for 9-11, or that tired worn-out catch all excuse for invasion, weapons of mass destruction. Assassinations are always passed off as "crazed lone nuts" to obscure the real agenda.

    The real agenda is simple. It is enslavement of the people by creation of a false sense of obligation. That obligation is false because the Private Central Banking system, by design, always creates more debt than money with which to pay that debt. Private Central Banking is not science, it is a religion; a set of arbitrary rules created to benefit the priesthood, meaning the owners of the Private Central Bank. The fraud persists, with often lethal results, because the people are tricked into believing that this is the way life is suppoed to be and no alternative exists or should be dreamt of. The same was true of two earlier systems of enslavement, Rule by Divine Right and Slavery, both systems built to trick people into obedience, and both now recognized by modern civilizatyion as illegitimate. Now we are entering a time in human history where we will recognize that rule by debt, or rule by Private Central Bankers issuing the public currency as a loan at interest, is equally illegitimate. It only works as long as people allow themselves to believe that this is the way life is supposed to be.



    But understand this above all; Private Central Banks do not exist to serve the people, the community, or the nation. Private Central Banks exist to serve their owners, to make them rich beyond the dreams of Midas and all for the cost of ink, paper, and the right bribe to the right official.

    Behind all these wars, all these assassinations, the hundred million horrible deaths from all the wars lies a single policy of dictatorship. The private central bankers allow rulers to rule only on the condition that the people of a nation be enslaved to the private central banks. Failing that, said ruler will be killed, and their nation invaded by those other nations enslaved to private central banks.

    The so-called "clash of civilizations" we read about on the corporate media is really a war between banking systems, with the private central bankers forcing themselves onto the rest of the world, no matter how many millions must die for it. Indeed the constant hatemongering against Muslims lies in a simple fact. Like the ancient Christians (prior to the Knights Templars private banking system) , Muslims forbid usury, or the lending of money at interest. And that is the reason our government and media insist they must be killed or converted. They refuse to submit to currencies issued at interest. They refuse to be debt slaves.

    So off to war your children must go, to spill their blood for the money-junkies' gold. We barely survived the last two world wars. In the nuclear/bioweapon age, are the private central bankers willing to risk incinerating the whole planet just to feed their greed?

    Apparently so.



    Flag waving and propaganda aside, all modern wars are wars by and for the private bankers, fought and bled for by third parties unaware of the true reason they are expected to gracefully be killed and croppled for. The process is quite simple. As soon as the Private Central Bank issues its currency as a loan at interest, the public is forced deeper and deeper into debt. When the people are reluctant to borrow any more, that is when the Keynesian economists demand the government borrow more to keep the pyramid scheme working. When both the people and government refuse to borrow any more, that is when wars are started, to plunge everyone even deeper into debt to pay for the war, then after the war to borrow more to rebuild. When the war is over, the people have about the same as they did before the war, except the graveyards are far larger and everyone is in debt to the private bankers for the next century. This is why Brown Brothers Harriman in New York was funding the rise of Adolf Hitler.

    As long as Private Central Banks are allowed to exist, inevitably as the night follows day there will be poverty, hopelessness, and millions of deaths in endless World Wars, until the Earth itself is sacrificed in flames to Mammon.

    The path to true peace on Earth lies in the abolishment of all private central banking everywhere, and a return to the state-issued value-based currencies that allow nations and people to become prosperous.


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    Vicki,
    So pleased that that you put up this essay. I read it on another thread yesterday as a side bar.

    I thought it was a great history lesson and some elitists will say this guy is trying to rewrite history but I think he's closer to truth than not.

    It's lengthy but read it folks and then discuss it here.

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    Absolutely, all civilization has been a series of wars & crashes enabled with the full support if not direct action by the mega bank(s) of their day.

    That may sound like an outrageous claim until you seek out the origins of a war down to the root cause. Most history stops at one or two levels above the root cause, thus it may not be evident to a casual scholar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_A View Post
    Absolutely, all civilization has been a series of wars & crashes enabled with the full support if not direct action by the mega bank(s) of their day.

    That may sound like an outrageous claim until you seek out the origins of a war down to the root cause. Most history stops at one or two levels above the root cause, thus it may not be evident to a casual scholar.
    Absolutely true!

    I'm sure you'll find the banks were behind 9/11 too; as well as our provocative foreign policy.

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    Thanks, Vicki. This is food for my next book (or two).

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    You had me up until I read "Israel's aggressions." Those "dirty Joooo bankerzzz" and all that...
    "Education consists mainly in what we have unlearned." (Mark Twain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcchrystal View Post
    You had me up until I read "Israel's aggressions." Those "dirty Joooo bankerzzz" and all that...
    Just because many bankers are Jewish, does not mean that all Jews are bad.

    But Rothschilds descended from the Jews of Georgia. Look at all of the executive bankers . . . Blankfein, Dimond, Greenspan, Bernanke, etc. It's really hard to ignore.

    But again, that doesn't mean that all Jews are bad. However, in our present economic/banking model, all bankers are indeed crooks. And that's a fact.

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    Thanks GGK, I've heard this all before but I thought Mike did a great job compiling it.

    I hope you do write those next books Hacker. I'll buy them too.

    No one was trying to offend you McChrystal. I don't care what nationality or religion anyone is when it comes to truth or lies. It's discerning between the two that I'm after. Quite frankly I'm getting really leary of anyone who jumps to discredit based solely on race or beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcchrystal View Post
    You had me up until I read "Israel's aggressions." Those "dirty Joooo bankerzzz" and all that...
    me thinks

    thee doth protest too much

    IOW

    it is what it .........is..........

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    I would agree that the vast majority of wars are ECONOMIC wars, but not necessarily banker wars. And I would place a starting date on it since I would be enormously surprised to find that the Hittites and Egyptians or the Romans and Carthaginians were fighting over imposing a central bank on one or the other.

    Also, if you define world wars as wars that are fought all over the globe, then there certainly WERE world wars prior to World War 1. Just because they weren't specifically labeled "World War X" doesn't mean they weren't global in scale. For example, British privateer (that is, blessed by the Queen of England) Francis Drake was sinking and capturing Spanish ships off the western coast of North America almost 30 years BEFORE Jamestown was settled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanstaafl View Post
    I would agree that the vast majority of wars are ECONOMIC wars, but not necessarily banker wars. And I would place a starting date on it since I would be enormously surprised to find that the Hittites and Egyptians or the Romans and Carthaginians were fighting over imposing a central bank on one or the other.

    Also, if you define world wars as wars that are fought all over the globe, then there certainly WERE world wars prior to World War 1. Just because they weren't specifically labeled "World War X" doesn't mean they weren't global in scale. For example, British privateer (that is, blessed by the Queen of England) Francis Drake was sinking and capturing Spanish ships off the western coast of North America almost 30 years BEFORE Jamestown was settled!


    I would suggest that if you broaden your personal concept of "Banker" you indeed might discover money institutions, which I all consider bankers are at the root.

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    a.........lets try to stay focused on the time frame of the 1930's to the present ...

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    If you're going to define bankers as anyone not a private individual but still involved in transfers of money, then you have a point. For example, a general store giving credit to customers is a form of banking. But the OP article was quite specific about it being central banks and/or opposition to "value based currency" as the root of ALL wars, not "merely" economic warfare over the last few hundred years and not just including all businesses offering bank-like services. What we today would call modern banking apparently got its start with the Knights Templar, so that's the historical starting point I'd pick. But as I said, I definitely would agree that the vast majority of wars (including the Punic Wars) are ECONOMIC wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snipe Hunter View Post
    a.........lets try to stay focused on the time frame of the 1930's to the present ...
    But that would rule out World War 1 and the founding of the Federal Reserve Bank. Which is a huge part of the article's argument.

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    His view of the muzzies is wrong also. While money may be just a tool for them, how many muzzie countries do you see the people lifted out of poverty? What they do is tack so-called "interest" on to the front of the price of things, so it doesn't appear to be interest. And above and beyond, is their overriding devotion to making the whole world muslim.

    No, muzzies don't get off the money hook.
    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanstaafl View Post
    If you're going to define bankers as anyone not a private individual but still involved in transfers of money, then you have a point. For example, a general store giving credit to customers is a form of banking. But the OP article was quite specific about it being central banks and/or opposition to "value based currency" as the root of ALL wars, not "merely" economic warfare over the last few hundred years and not just including all businesses offering bank-like services. What we today would call modern banking apparently got its start with the Knights Templar, so that's the historical starting point I'd pick. But as I said, I definitely would agree that the vast majority of wars (including the Punic Wars) are ECONOMIC wars.
    I define "bankers" as any individual or group of individuals who's "primary business" is to loan money at interest.

    While this specific article indicate a period, I don't think it's necessary at all to define it that narrowly in history. I'm not suggesting every war ever fought was financed by a banker (often financing both sides) I do believe the overwhelming vast majority have! Central Banks have just been particularly good at doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanstaafl View Post
    If you're going to define bankers as anyone not a private individual but still involved in transfers of money, then you have a point. For example, a general store giving credit to customers is a form of banking. But the OP article was quite specific about it being central banks and/or opposition to "value based currency" as the root of ALL wars, not "merely" economic warfare over the last few hundred years and not just including all businesses offering bank-like services. What we today would call modern banking apparently got its start with the Knights Templar, so that's the historical starting point I'd pick. But as I said, I definitely would agree that the vast majority of wars (including the Punic Wars) are ECONOMIC wars.
    Usury was in use in Biblical times too, remember? And how far back before that? Since the dawn of the "money" system, someone has always tried to make out better than the next guy. And they would steal, murder, and go to war to take wealth away from someone else and enslave them.

    Were we all born this way? Or did something happen? I think you all know the answer.
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    Since that seems to be the key point of contention here, does anyone know how far back the concept of interest goes in the sense of it being a primary business? I saw a TV program that said something to the effect that the Knights Templar were the first truly multi-national (or multi-kingdom, at least) banking system, so it goes back at least that far. I would like to see a list of wars which includes details on how the war was financed by one or both sides before I accept that a banking conspiracy to enslave the world goes back further than relatively modern times.

    Maybe I just have an issue with accepting the idea that Sargon the Great (per Wikipedia, "the first person in recorded history to create a multiethnic, centrally ruled empire" "in the 23rd and 22nd centuries BC") financed his empire building with bank loans and it was part of a greater conspiracy. Which you'd have to include if you're going to grandly announce that "ALL wars are BANKER wars" (the thread title and the title of the article itself, although of course the emphasis is mine).

    edited to add: Opps, while I was typing mzkitty was addressing exactly this issue.

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    Go back as far as the Garden of Eden. That's when Satan snuck in and took over.

    I know, the truth hurts. Many people avoid it at all costs. But it still doesn't change the truth.

    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    This article is absolutely true and backed up by history. Which is written by the winners. Google the history of money, this narrative is not the only one.
    People go wrong in supporting 'honest bankers', because they confuse the difference between 'ownership' of the capital, and RENTING the capital. When 'capital' is not based in value, it is fictitious 'credit', and can always overpower 'money', they confuse the difference between a 'banker' and an 'international banker'.
    But regardless, the term 'honest banker' is an oxymoron... they make money by causing the up cycle, then make a killing on the misery of the down cycle. The Business cycle is their biggest myth, and their biggest weapon to make you end up "... paying rent on the continent your forefathers conquered.", or in the words of Adams, "nations can be conquered by the sword or by debt." Every dollar, EVERY DOLLAR, that comes into being, is a debt to the Fed... and the Fed is a PRIVATE BANK that has STOCKHOLDERS, remember that.
    Lincoln was right, and I'm afraid Obama remembers that... or, his handlers do. And the Lincoln option will be the trick card they play when the dollar collapses, and that, is why the Dems are not concerned about spending or the debts...
    Only this time... it will be an electronic currency, and the price for admission into the club may be steep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanstaafl View Post
    Since that seems to be the key point of contention here, does anyone know how far back the concept of interest goes in the sense of it being a primary business? I saw a TV program that said something to the effect that the Knights Templar were the first truly multi-national (or multi-kingdom, at least) banking system, so it goes back at least that far. I would like to see a list of wars which includes details on how the war was financed by one or both sides before I accept that a banking conspiracy to enslave the world goes back further than relatively modern times.

    Maybe I just have an issue with accepting the idea that Sargon the Great (per Wikipedia, "the first person in recorded history to create a multiethnic, centrally ruled empire" "in the 23rd and 22nd centuries BC") financed his empire building with bank loans and it was part of a greater conspiracy. Which you'd have to include if you're going to grandly announce that "ALL wars are BANKER wars" (the thread title and the title of the article itself, although of course the emphasis is mine).

    edited to add: Opps, while I was typing mzkitty was addressing exactly this issue.
    I believe Babylon was the first kingdom to invent 'Fixed contracts of debt'... contracts backed up by the Kings law and soldiers, the money changers were running out of the Temple of the Sun god, and the priests kept the people in submission to 'godly authority'... sound familiar?
    It should.
    Yet there is so much confusion about Babylon. Who, do you think the Head of Gold, down through the ages is?

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    To answer your question Bagpiper, all roads lead to Rome.


    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...s-know-we-dont

    What Do German Central Bankers Know That We Don't?

    Submitted by Phoenix Capital Research on 01/16/2013 11:53 -0500

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    Ben Bernanke and the rest of the US Federal Reserve bet the farm that they could engage in countless monetary interventions, keep interest rates at zero, and print over $2 trillion in new money without damaging the US’s credibility.



    They were wrong. Indeed, Germany just fired a major warning shot to the US Federal Reserve.



    On Monday, Germany announced that it will be moving a significant portion of its Gold reserves out of storage with the New York Fed and moving them back to Germany.



    A few background details.


    Germany has the second largest Gold reserves in the world behind the US.
    Since the early ‘80s, Germany has stored the largest portion of its Gold reserves with the New York Fed (45% vs. 13% in London, 11% in Paris and the remaining 31% in Frankfurt).
    In the fall of last year, German officials began raising the issue of auditing its reserves at the NY Fed.



    Why would Germany suddenly decide that it wants to change a policy it has had in place for over 30 years?



    More importantly, how did it go from wanting to audit its reserves to actually removing them from the NY Fed’s care?



    In simple terms, Germany has just announced that it doesn’t trust the US Fed.



    The world’s Central Banks have been staging a global currency way for several years now. Germany, China, Japan, and the US all want to keep their currencies weak to improve exports and minimize their debt loads.



    In the case of Germany, it’s the second largest exporter of goods in the world behind China. More than anyone in the EU, Germany wants a weak Euro. However, every time the Fed announces a new policy, the US Dollar falls, the Euro rallies and German exports fall off a cliff.



    Germany is now openly telling the Fed that it is done playing around. This will have severe consequences in the financial system.



    Remember, the only thing holding the financial system together is belief in the Central Banks. If the Central Banks (it was Germany’s Bundesbank that is behind the Gold move) stop trusting one another or grow openly antagonistic, then things will get very bad very quickly.



    For months now we’ve been asserting that the “improvements” in the global economy and financial system were a mirage. Germany’s move has confirmed this. If the financial system was in fact safe and the global economy was improving, Germany would not feel the need to repatriate its Gold.



    Which begs the question, what exactly do German Central Bankers know that we don’t?



    With that in mind, smart investors are taking advantage of the lull in the markets to position themselves for what’s coming.
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    Another history lesson...

    The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations

    The authoritative expose of the greatest brainwashing organization to ever exist in the course of human history is now revealed in Dr. John Coleman's latest book, The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations: Shaping the Moral, Cultural, Political, and Economic Decline of the United States of America. The Tavistock Institute is located in the City of London and at Sussex University in England.

    Dr. John Coleman, Dr. John Coleman, the author of 15 books, the best known of which is Conspirators Hierarchy, The Committee of 300, was one of the the first writers to bring the world's attention to the existence of Tavistock, hitherto unknown to press and pundits alike, in a monograph published in 1969. Since his initial 1969 revelations concerning the pivotal role that Tavistock plays in shaping political, social, educational, and economic 'opinions', especially in the United States, more than a few writers of global conspiracy have attempted to place laurels upon their shoulders for revelations about Tavistock's key influence as the Mother of all Propaganda Ministries, while ignoring the fact that this pioneering work was first published by John Coleman. Dr. Coleman's new book, however, leaves no doubt as to who is the master and who are the students when it comes to the subject of Tavistock.

    The book is stunning in the new knowledge that it reveals about the hidden role of British oligarchs to shape and control public opinion in order to manipulate the British public (and later the American public) into accepting the notion that war with Germany was necessary in order "to secure a lasting peace."

    The plan to 'create' public opinion began in 1913 as a propaganda factory centered at Wellington House in London. Sir Edward Grey, the British Foreign Secretary at the time, installed Lord Northcliffe (Britain's most influential newspaper magnate) as its director. Lord Northcliffe's position was over sighted by Lord Rothmere on behalf of the British Crown. The operational staff of Wellington House consisted of Lord Northcliffe, Arnold Toynbee (future director of studies at the Royal Institute of International Affairs), and the Americans, Walter Lippmann and Edward Bernays (nephew to Signund Freud).

    Funding was initially provided by the Royal family, but soon to include the Rothchilds (related to Lord Northcliffe by marriage) and the Rockefellers. Wellington House would grow into the Tavistock Institute in 1921 after the propaganda "victories" of the First World War and the Federal Reserve banking system (created in 1913) had been secured.

    (The Forward to the book is re-printed below from Dr. Coleman's web site)


    The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political and Economic Decline of The United States of America

    FORWARD.

    The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was unknown to the people of the United States before Dr. Coleman exposed its existence in his monograph, The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations: Britain's Control of the United States. Up to that time, Tavistock had successfully retained its secretive role in shaping the affairs of the United States, its government and its people since its early beginning in London, in 1913 at Wellington House.

    Since Dr. Coleman's original article exposing this ultra-secret organization, others have come forward with claims of authorship, which they were unable to substantiate.

    Tavistock began as a propaganda creating and disseminating organization centered at Wellington House, which was where the original organization was put together with intent of shaping a propaganda outlet that would break down the stiff public resistance being encountered to the looming war between Britain and Germany.

    The project was given to Lords Rothmere and Northcliffe and their mandate was to produce an organization capable of manipulating public opinion and directing that manufactured opinion down the desired pathway to support for a declaration of war by Great Britain against Germany.

    Funding was provided by the British royal family, and later by the Rothschilds to whom Lord Northcliffe was related through marriage. Arnold Toynbee was selected as Director of Future Studies. Two Americans, Walter Lippmann and Edward Bernays were appointed to handle the manipulation of American public opinion in preparation for the entry of the United States into WWI, and to brief and direct President Woodrow Wilson.

    From a somewhat crude beginning at Wellington House, grew an organization that was to shape the destiny of Germany, Britain and more especially the United States in manner that became a highly sophisticated organization to manipulate and create public opinion, what is commonly termed, “mass brainwashing.”

    During the course of its evolvement, Tavistock expanded in size and ambition, when in 1937, a decision was made to use the German author Oswald Spengler's monumental work, Untergange des Abenlandes (The Decline of Western Civilization ) as a model.

    Previously, Wellington House board members Rothmere, Northcliffe, Lippmann, and Bernays had read and proposed as a guide the writings of Correa Moylan Walsh, in particular, the book The Climax of Civilization (1917) as corresponding closely to conditions that had to be created before a New World Order in a One World Government could be ushered in.

    In this endeavor the members of the board consulted with the British royal family and obtained the approval of the “Olympians” (the inner core of the Committee of 300) to formulate a strategy. Funding was provided by the monarchy, the Rothschilds, the Milner Group and the Rockefeller family trusts.

    In 1936, Spengler's monumental work had come to the attention of what had become the Tavistock Institute. In preparation for changing and reshaping public opinion for the second time in less than twelve years, by unanimous consent of the board, Spengler's massive book was adopted as the blueprint for a new working model to bring about the decline and fall of Western civilization necessary to create and establish a New World Order inside a One World Government.

    Spengler held it bound to happen that alien elements would be introduced into Western civilization in increasing numbers, and that the West would fail at that time to expel the aliens, thereby sealing its fate, a society, whose inward beliefs and sound convictions would become at variance with its outward profession and thus Western civilization would fall by the wayside in the manner of the ancient civilizations of Greece and Rome.

    Tavistock thinking was that Spengler had indoctrinated Western civilization to believe that it would err on the side of Roman civilization, and expel the aliens. The genetic loss that has fallen upon Europe-and especially on Scandinavia, England, Germany, France- (the Anglo-Saxon, Nordic Alpine Germanic races) that began just before the Second World War is already so great as to be beyond expectations, and continues at an alarming pace under the skilled guidance of the Tavistock managers.

    What was a very rare instance became a common occurrence, a black man married to a white women or vice-versa.

    The two World Wars cost the German nation almost one quarter of its population. Most of the intellectual energies of the German nation were diverted into war channels in defense of the Fatherland at the expense of science, arts, literature, music and the cultural, spiritual and moral advancement of the nation. The same could be said of the British nation. The blaze kindled by the British under the direction of Tavistock set all of Europe on fire, and did incalculable damage according to the Tavistock blueprint that matched Spengler's predictions.

    Classical and Western are the only two civilizations that could bring a modern renaissance to the world. They had flourished and progressed just as long as these civilizations remained under the control of the Anglo-Saxon Nordic Alpine, Germanic races. The unsurpassed beauty of their literature, art, their classics, spiritual and moral advancement of the female sex with a very large corresponding degree of protection, was what distinguished Western and Classic civilizations from others.

    It was this bastion that Spengler saw coming under increasing attack and the thinking at Tavistock ran on parallel tracks, but with a totally different goal. Tavistock saw this civilizations a stumbling block to ushering a New World Order, as did the emphasis on protection and elevation of the female sex to a place of high respect and honor.

    Thus the whole thrust of Tavistock was to “democratize” the West by an attack on womanhood, and the racial, moral, spiritual and religious foundation upon which Western civilization rested.

    As Spengler suggested, the Greeks and Romans were devoted to the social, religious, moral and spiritual advancement and the preservation of womanhood and they were successful for just as long as they were in control and could arrange matters so that government was carried out by a limited number of responsible citizens supported by the general populace below them, all being of the same pure unadulterated race. The planners at Tavistock saw that the way to upset the balance of Western civilization was to force unwelcome changes in the race by removing control from the deserving to the undeserving in the manner of ancient Roman leaders who were supplanted by their former slaves and aliens, whom they had permitted to come and dwell among them.

    Tavistock, by 1937, had come a long way from its Wellington House beginnings and the successful propaganda campaign that had turned the British public from being strongly anti-war in 1913 to willing participants through the arts of manipulation with the willing cooperation of news communications media.

    The technique was carried across the Atlantic in 1916 to manipulate the American people to support of the war in Europe. In spite of the fact that the vast majority, including at least 50 U.S. Senators were adamantly opposed to the U.S. getting dragged into what they perceived was essentially a quarrel between Britain and France on the one hand, and Germany on the other, largely over trade and economics, the conspirators were undeterred. At that point Wellington House introduced the word, “Isolationists” as a derogatory description of those Americans who opposed U.S. participation in the war. The use of such words and phrases has proliferated under the expert brainwashing of the Social sciences scientists at Tavistock. Terms like “regime change,” “collateral damage” became almost new English language.

    With the Tavistock plan modified to suit American conditions, Bernays and Lippmann led President Woodrow Wilson to set up the very first Tavistock methodology techniques for polling (manufacturing) so-called public opinion created by Tavistock propaganda. They also taught Wilson to set up a secret body of “managers” to run the war effort and a body of “advisors” to assist the President in his decision-making. The Creel Commission was the first such body of opinion-makers set up in the United States.

    Woodrow Wilson was the first American president to publicly proclaim himself in favor of a Socialist New World Order inside a Socialist One World Government. His remarkable acceptance of the New World Order is found in his book The New Freedom.

    We say “his” book, but actually, it was written by Socialist William B. Hayle. Wilson denounced capitalism. “It is contrary to the common man and it has brought stagnation to our economy,” Wilson wrote.

    Yet, at the time, the United States economy was enjoying prosperity and industrial expansion as it had never experienced before in its history:

    “We stand in the presence of a revolution—not a bloody revolution, America is not given to spilling blood—but a silent revolution, whereby America will insist upon recovering to practice those ideals which she has always professed, upon securing a government devoted to the general and not the special interests. We are upon the threshold of a time when the systematic life of the country will be sustained or at least supplemented at every point by government activity. And now we have to determine what kind of a government activity it shall be; whether, in the first place, it shall be directed from government itself, or whether it shall be indirect, through instrumentalities which have already constituted themselves and which stand ready to supersede government.”

    The United States, harried, hounded, pushed and shoved is headed on a fast track to the New World Order, propelled along by the Radical Republicans of the War Party who have been taken over by the scientists at the Tavistock Institute for Human Relations.

    Just recently I was asked by a subscriber "where do we find the Tavistock Institute?" My response was: "Look around the U.S. Senate, the House of Representatives, the White House, the State Department, the Defense Department, Wall Street, Fox T.V. (Faux T.V.) and you will see their change agents in every one of these places."

    President Wilson was the first U.S. president to “manage” the war through a civilian committee guided and directed by the Bernays and Lippmann from Wellington House, to which we have already made mention.

    The resounding success of Wellington House and its enormous influence on the course of American history began before that in 1913. Wilson had spent almost a year tearing down the protective trade tariffs that had defended the American domestic markets from being overwhelmed by “Free Trade,” essentially the practice of allowing cheap British goods made with cheap labor in India to flood the American market. On October 12, 1913 Wilson signed the bill that was the beginning of the end of the unique American middle class, long the target of the Fabian Socialists. The bill was described as a measure to “adjust tariffs,” but it would have been accurate to describe it as a bill to “destroy tariffs.”

    Such was the hidden power of Wellington House that the vast majority of the American people accepted this lie, not knowing or realizing that it was a death knell for American commerce that would lead to NAFTA, GATT and the World Trade Organization (WTO). Even more astonishing was the acceptance of the Federal Income Tax Act that was passed on September 5, 1913, to replace trade tariffs as the source of revenue for the Federal Government. Income Tax is a Marxist doctrine not found in the U.S. Constitution anymore than the Federal Reserve Bank is found in the Constitution. Wilson called his twin blows against the Constitution, “a fight for the people, and for free business,” and said he was proud to have taken “part in the completion of a great piece of business…” The Federal Reserve Act, explained by Wilson as “reconstructing the Nation's banking and currency system” was rushed through on a flood-tide of propaganda emanating from Wellington House, just in time for the hostilities that began the horror of WWI.

    Most historians are agreed that without passage of the Federal Reserve Bank Act, Lord Grey would not have been able to start that terrible conflagration.

    The deceptive language of the Federal Reserve Act was under the guidance of Bernays and Lippman who set up a “National Citizen's League” with the notorious Samuel Untermeyer as its chairman, to promote the Federal Reserve Bank, that secured control of the people's money and currency and transferred it to a private monopoly without the victim's consent.

    One of the most interesting pieces of history surrounding the imposition of the foreign financial slavery measure was that before it was sent to Wilson for his signature, a copy was given to the sinister Colonel Edward Mandel House as the representative of Wellington House and the British oligarchy represented by the banker, J.P. Morgan.

    As to the American people, in whose name the disastrous measure was instituted, they had not the faintest idea how they had been connived, cheated, lied to and utterly deceived. An instrument of slavery was fastened around their necks without the victims ever becoming aware of it.

    Wellington House methodology was at its height when Wilson was coached in how to persuade Congress to declare war on Germany, although he had won election on the solemn promise to keep America out of the war then raging in Europe, a great triumph for the new art of public opinion making. It was just that - the poll questions were shaded in such away that the answers reflected the opinions of the public; not their understanding of the questions, nor their understanding of the processes of political science.



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    Sorry ms Vicki,
    I guess it depends on modern, or historical context...
    all historical roads lead to Babylon. But scholars, it appears, have been brainwashed into denial, to avoid the ultimate truth.
    I didn't want to hijack this thread so I'll quit here, if you want to discuss this further we can move it to rel.
    Read Daniel, and you will see who the first kingdom, that all the other kingdoms were LIKE, but not as good.
    Rome was the beginning of MYSTERY, and that is what we've had ever since. When the 'Holy' Roman's destroyed the Heretics and set mankind back a thousand years or more by the wholesale burning of books and outlawing philosophy, otherwise known as the Gnostics, they destroyed the Knowledge taught by Christ, and substituted Paul with the tenants and pretty rituals of the Babylonian mystery school. That is why its called 'Pauline' Christianity, what the Bible condemns as the Mother of Harlots, named MYSTERY, BABYLON, that rides the Beast of Ten shofar horns, which are the leaders of the Ten white tribes that run the planet. Soon, it will fall 'in one hour', as Babylon burns, and the two legs of ideology are replaced by The Beast system, totally controlled by the bankers.
    This was the Lords final lesson, fighting the money changers in the Temple, and where we should direct our ire.

    The System of Babylon, is the three powers of banking, government, and religion, supporting each other in keeping us in debt slavery, and making up stories as they go along. I know the Gnostic interpretations are not popular, but I don't care, the Pharisees were SURE they were right, but they were blind, like most preachers today who collect their 30 pieces of tax free silver, they ride the Beast of government, who are under the ten shofars, the banking leaders of the white families, the 'lost' ten.

    Preachers (at least most of them) cannot see this, because they are like the Pharisees, their intelligence is skewed towards their teachers, who taught them to follow the rules, and teach submission to 'Godly authority', this, came from Babylon, and was imposed by Rome, to come down in our time. One question I've never heard a preacher ask; If the Harlot is named the 'Mother' of Harlots, then who are the daughters?

    I submit, they are the Protestants. Who haven't been taught what they are; Protesting Catholics, who listen to Rome's MYSTERY. That's the definition of protestant.

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    This idea has been around for quite some time. See Major General Smedley Butler's book War is a Racket from 1935: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_is_a_Racket. He lived it first hand. It's all about money- always is, always has been. Period.
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    It all goes back so much further than Babylon. Really think about what this is saying. I've mentioned it before here, but the truth is so shocking, that's why it's been buried and lied about all this time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu

    It's not a "religious" topic so much as true history and where it all came from.

    So until people finally understand THE TRUTH and act to fix the problems based on that, the world will continue to be led astray almost to the point of annihilation.

    Why are people afraid of the truth?


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    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
    It all goes back so much further than Babylon. Really think about what this is saying. I've mentioned it before here, but the truth is so shocking, that's why it's been buried and lied about all this time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridu

    It's not a "religious" topic so much as true history and where it all came from.

    So until people finally understand THE TRUTH and act to fix the problems based on that, the world will continue to be led astray almost to the point of annihilation.

    Why are people afraid of the truth?


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    Very true Mzkitty,
    But I believe Babylon is the kingdom that elevated money and debt to an art form. They invented the 'Fixed debt contract', backed up by the King's laws and soldiers, with passive submission to 'Godly authority' enforced by the priests... sound familiar? It should, its what we have today.

    It is the the Triune System of evil, and is why the concept of Babylon is so confusing to stupid preachers and leaders, its not that they're stupid, they just have a lot to defend... their power base.
    The Head of Gold, and the Phoenix that rises from the ashes of civilizations, is the Rule of Gold; He who has the gold, makes the rules. And our love of money keeps us submissive to a system we don't understand, and the Elite are in love with, and their supporters, and those who buy the bs about The Dream of Material riches, thus the love of money is the root of all evil... it is a god we worship above GOD and the Constitution. The Constitution was only flawed in the respect that it continued the Rule of Gold, we gave up an aristocracy of royalty to be replaced by an aristocracy of money. They gave us 'rights' from God, we gave them power, it all worked until centralization of everything causes complexity to implode, then they rise from the ashes in a new form, with even more control. The Pump and Dump Game, writ large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagpiper View Post
    Very true Mzkitty,
    But I believe Babylon is the kingdom that elevated money and debt to an art form. They invented the 'Fixed debt contract', backed up by the King's laws and soldiers, with passive submission to 'Godly authority' enforced by the priests... sound familiar? It should, its what we have today.

    It is the the Triune System of evil, and is why the concept of Babylon is so confusing to stupid preachers and leaders, its not that they're stupid, they just have a lot to defend... their power base.
    The Head of Gold, and the Phoenix that rises from the ashes of civilizations, is the Rule of Gold; He who has the gold, makes the rules. And our love of money keeps us submissive to a system we don't understand, and the Elite are in love with, and their supporters, and those who buy the bs about The Dream of Material riches, thus the love of money is the root of all evil... it is a god we worship above GOD and the Constitution. The Constitution was only flawed in the respect that it continued the Rule of Gold, we gave up an aristocracy of royalty to be replaced by an aristocracy of money. They gave us 'rights' from God, we gave them power, it all worked until centralization of everything causes complexity to implode, then they rise from the ashes in a new form, with even more control. The Pump and Dump Game, writ large.
    Well, you try to educate; I try to educate; I know there are others. But like you said, all most people know IS what they've been living with their entire lives, and change is difficult, especially is you are never even exposed to a different education nor have any desire to get one.

    And ............ if by misbehavior and miseducation the world forces JC to return and do things right, I can see why they'd scatter like cockroaches when the light hits them.

    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    I would not say exclusively bankers, but all wars, in my opinion are in the illegal pursuit to seize by force someone else's MONEY, property, or wealth.
    What are you going to pay for it? I can probably get it for you cheaper, ask me.

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    All Wars Are Bankers Wars has gone viral and there's a new video with graphics that go along with the premise of MR's article. I'm bumping this for those who missed it the first time around and to add this new video...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicki View Post
    All Wars Are Bankers Wars has gone viral and there's a new video with graphics that go along with the premise of MR's article. I'm bumping this for those who missed it the first time around and to add this new video...
    Excellent video Vicki. A must-see for anyone who hasn't...

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