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WTF?!? Proof Positive - In My Opinion (who created Innocence of Muslims)(Obama)
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    Proof Positive - In My Opinion (who created Innocence of Muslims)(Obama)

    Proof Positive - In My Opinion (who created Innocence of Muslims)(Obama)


    Hat tip to TigersEye on Freepers, all comments below are his. The thread on Freeps is worth reading especially for non-tech people such as moi. I will post a few comments below. The "movie" is obviously suspect and perhaps this guy found out some useful info. YMMV. One comment about him:
    Oh he’s definitely knowledgeable enough, but just as much as many of the regular folks over at Websleuths that can track a missing person and attain “electronic footprints” finding details of a case much the way that an internet detective does. I think he’s got some paid for programs on his computer that allow him access to ISP’s and personal background info, and he must have one heck of a virus protection program as he seems not to fear “clicking away” (lol).

    I found his method legit, and again, fascinating.
    This is a Youtube video produced by user Montagraph who speculated that "Innocence of Muslims" was a false flag op. So did I. He has done a lot of work tracing numerous websites connected to the original uploading of the now famous video. His narrative starts out very slow but give it a chance. He does explain it all in detail and has sourced it all with URLs below his vid.

    Montagraph declines to say that his evidence is definitive so you be the judge. The internet tracks end up leading right to one well known Jug-eared Marxist.



    False Flag, Currently Underway ?




    Published on Sep 16, 2012 by Montagraph

    Here are the links in the order discussed.

    TheAntiPC's video on how the Muslim Movie is months old
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDvt7...EDR2_AJoOfL_w&...

    The original casting call
    http://www.mooncasting.com/us/castin...r-los-angeles/

    Vice's extensive article on Director "Alan Roberts" aka Robert Brownell
    http://www.vice.com/read/who-is-alan...nocence-of-mus...

    Link of http://www.divinerevelations.info/ forwards to http://www.spiritlessons.com

    Director Robert Brownell's Youtube page http://www.youtube.com/user/robertbrownell

    Spiritlessons Youtube page http://www.youtube.com/user /spiritlessons

    "Sam Baciles" the producers youtube page http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4Dj...eos?flow=grid&...

    "Sam Bacile" grants interview with Radio Sawa, a US-government station that broadcasts in Arabic.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTryh99bW9o

    The video where Director Robert Brownell talks about "George" uploaded in 2007, Can Christians Be Possessed?
    a video by Robert Brownell of spiritlessons
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6OC9y05KVE

    The blasphemous video by Robert Brownell in which he stated that the evidence for "miracles" at the Lakeland "revival" was EQUAL to the evidence for miracles in The Word of God.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUJszmSVgwc

    BLOGGER WARNS L.A. City Council about "Innocence of Bib Laden" in June
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...ed_film_innoce...

    Suggestions that a deal was cut with "Sam Bacile" & the FBI for a lighter sentence if he did this film.
    http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-lib...sseley-nakoula...

    Geert Wilders new film for 2012 to be called "The Real Life Of Mohammad
    http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php...&view=article&...

    Teen in Chicago arrested for car boxb plot
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...422725484.html

    DHS & FBI issue warning for America
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...anti-islamic-m...



    Proof Positive - In My Opinion




    Published on Sep 20, 2012 by Montagraph

    HOLY CRAP UPDATE: Glen Beck reported that the Embassy staff were communicating via a gaming forum! Go to "DarthF3TT" channel on YT and will notice that out of 11 videos, NINE of them are [Gaming Videos] ONE is the Innocence of Muslims and TWO are about the Embassy Killings. Screen Cap It - I Did! Here is the link!!! http://www.youtube.com/user/DarthF3T...ow=grid&view=0

    UPDATE: Look who created this now deleted page. This url was captured via a Google Cache trying to sell the Christopher Stevens was killed because of the Innocence of Muslim "Film", look who posted it! "NPN" NewsPoliticsNow3 http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...oJ:www.indiego...

    Please follow the links in the order in which listed and come to your own conclusions!

    The "Original Video" called The Real Life Of Mohammad
    posted on July 1st 2012 on Sam Bacile's YT Channel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoBwR9KEGUc&feature=plcp

    Movie name changed to "Innocence of Muslims" posted on
    September 11 2012 by Youtube user NewsPoliticsNow3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntgzoE7rU9A&feature=plcp

    Youtube page NewsPoliticsNow sporting a [TM] Trademark
    to the right of their name
    http://www.youtube.com/user/NewsPoliticsNow2

    Youtube page NewsPoliticsLeaks appears to be associated with
    NewsPoliticsNow notice the trademark listed to the right
    http://www.youtube.com/user/NewsPoliticsLeaks

    Trademark search results for NewsPoliticsNow
    http://trademarksearch.marcaria.com/...U9NDAwMSUzQTh0...

    Trademark results for NewsPoliticsLeaks
    http://trademarksearch.marcaria.com/...U9NDAwNSUzQTI3...

    Image search for NPN
    https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...ieZuupgOU3vkTr...

    Image search for NPL
    https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...c004scSflnn3fT...

    Results for Stanley Inc
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley,_Inc.

    It has been brought to my attention that Youtube has shielded everyone's age within the past 24 hours.

    -------------------- Again, I wanted to thank "TheAntiPC" http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAntiPC for your
    original video pointing out the facts on how the Muslim Movie was posted months ago, for it is Your Video, that made me really look into this situation!
    Asato Ma Sad Gamaya
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  2. #2
    Here's the thread on which it is discussed, and it does appear that the maker of the videos is a raving nutcase but even raving nutcases can get some things right. If anyone figures it out let me know, I'm too much of a tech numbwit to have a clue.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ch...205/posts?page

    Some of TigersEye's comments:

    People are pulling their websites within hours of this guy's videos. He screencapped it all though.
    All Montagraph has done is ask why the film changed names four times and who made the final change to Innocence of Muslims. He establishes a timeline which is suspicious and he traces the web footprints of those connected in some way to the uploading of the "final cut" and they lead to the DHS and Obama.
    I keep wondering why Hillbilly and Ricecakes pointedly and repeatedly said "our government had nothing to do with it." (the video) No one would have thought that they did. Not us and not the muzzies. Except they keep denying it and keep making a farcical point about the video causing the riots. Now we know there were no protests at all in Benghazi.
    Asato Ma Sad Gamaya
    Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya

    Leave illusion, come to the Truth
    Leave the darkness, come to the Light

  3. #3
    Another much more rational article!

    http://www.jpost.com/International/A...aspx?id=284877

    Analysis: Film at heart of Libya attack may be Fake

    Offensive references to Islam sloppily inserted in post-production; film's cast and crew say original plot unrelated to religion.


    Details casting doubt on the authenticity of the controversial film Innocence of Muslims, which sparked protests in Cairo and spurred the Libya attack that killed US Ambassador Christopher Stevens, mounted on Wednesday. A series of facts brought to light by online media such as Gawker, Buzzfeed and blogs on CNN, The Atlantic, and The Christian Science Monitor paint the picture of a possible hoax.

    In the film's 14-minute trailer (below), which set off the crisis after it was posted to YouTube, the name Muhammad and anti-Islam remarks are clearly dubbed over the original words, clashing with the film's visual cues. The sloppy editing calls into question whether the Hollywood film was, in fact, really created as an anti-Muslim screed, or simply edited to look that way. Despite an alleged $5 million budget, the production quality of the film is very low.

    Those involved in making the film, originally entitled Desert Warrior instead of Innocence of Muslims, denied that the film was meant to have anything to do with Islam, saying they were unaware of any such intentions during the film's production. According to CNN, a statement released by the film's 80-strong cast and crew said they were "grossly misled about its intent and purpose," and were "shocked by the drastic re-writes of the script and lies that were told to all involved."

    One of the film's actresses, Cindy Lee Garcia, told Gawker that, as far as she knew, the film was going to be "based on how things were 2,000 years ago," a time period that predates Islam by some 600 years.

    "It wasn't based on anything to do with religion, it was just on how things were run in Egypt. There wasn't anything about Muhammed or Muslims or anything," Garcia told Gawker. According to Garcia, the character portrayed as Muhammed was called "Master George" in the script.

    Then comes the identity of the allegedly Jewish, Israeli-born director/scriptwriter, Sam Bacile.

    As The Jerusalem Post reported, a high-ranking Israeli official in Los Angeles said that after numerous inquiries, it appeared that no one in the Hollywood film industry or in the local Israeli community had ever heard of him.

    Steve Klein, a "a self-described militant Christian activist in Riverside, California" who was involved with the film, told The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg that Bacile was not the director's real name, and that he was not Israeli and probably not Jewish either. "I would suspect this is a disinformation campaign," Klein said.

    The mounting evidence seems to suggest that the trailer was either a poorly-edited, wild rewrite of the film's original script or a flat out hoax, though no evidence has yet emerged confirming the possibility.
    Asato Ma Sad Gamaya
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    Leave illusion, come to the Truth
    Leave the darkness, come to the Light

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    IMHO.....
    This "video" was created to do NOTHING else but further USURP THE US CONSTITUTION. And mark my words....very soon it will be NDAA for ANYONE in this country to say ANYTHING negative about that stupid burning in hell-fire liar pedo SOB mohahahahahahamadman.
    There is another type of warfare—new in its intensity, ancient in its origin—war by
    guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; war by ambush instead of by combat, by
    infiltration instead of aggression, seeking victory by eroding and exhausting the enemy
    instead of engaging him. It preys on unrest.
    JFK 1962

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    Quote Originally Posted by VesperSparrow View Post
    IMHO.....
    This "video" was created to do NOTHING else but further USURP THE US CONSTITUTION. And mark my words....very soon it will be NDAA for ANYONE in this country to say ANYTHING negative about that stupid burning in hell-fire liar pedo SOB mohahahahahahamadman.
    The whole situation - hoax "movie", attacks worldwide, the assassination of Amb. Stevens and the other 3 Americans (two former SEALS), 0bastard's huge apology about the damned movie, and more. I posted an article yesterday about a good mil guy disciplined and punished! for telling the truth about Islam. Now in OUR MILITARY no one is allowed to say a word of TRUTH about Islam.

    The tide has to turn and the traitors have to be kicked out. And the damage they've done ripped out.
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    your already seeing the way paved for that, in the hair cutting thing among the amish, the feds, said they can get over 200 months of prison time, that it was a hate crime, and we need to be tolerant of different faiths. bingo, set up for saying any thing against islam.
    blessings to all momof23goats

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    I wonder what Drudge or Glenn Beck would think of this?
    JOHN 3:16 / John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FREE.

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    If you love Freepers,

    Stay there.
    Why post this sh!t here.

    Too rabid for me....
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    Honore de Balzac

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresterJohn View Post
    Stay there.
    Why post this sh!t here.

    Too rabid for me....
    Don't like it - don't read it!
    Asato Ma Sad Gamaya
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    Like Wag the Dog, only real and not nearly as thoughtful... how does a government incite a war it doesn't want to be a player in only reap the benefits of it?

    This administration isn't the typical, American administration.

    They don't want our past allies. They don't cherish our place as a global leader. They don't care if Israel survives or if gas prices go to $20.00 a gallon.

    All of that, to them, is good.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by VesperSparrow View Post
    IMHO.....
    This "video" was created to do NOTHING else but further USURP THE US CONSTITUTION. And mark my words....very soon it will be NDAA for ANYONE in this country to say ANYTHING negative about that stupid burning in hell-fire liar pedo SOB mohahahahahahamadman.
    Agree.

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    Bumping so Flippper can see the second article. Or first one.
    Asato Ma Sad Gamaya
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  13. #13
    Whoever made it, the real point is that what it says is true, and the Muzzies can not stand the truth about Mohamed. They do not even need to use the video as an excuse to kill and burn. It took them, what, four months to get excited about it in the first place.

    They wanted an attack on Sept 11, 2012 and they looked around for an excuse. (IMHO)

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    IMH and obssessive-reading fueled opinion, the "movie" was not spontaneously made by innocent people. There was some connection with the freak in the WH/and his handlers. Evidence is the murky beginnings of this movie, the horrible dubbing, the fake name/real name/whisked away "producer" and the lies told already about it. Then the fact that 0 and Hitlerly's instant pinning this OBVIOUSLY coordinated muzzie attacks on the "movie" which had only been uploaded to youtube recently. And just the trailer, not the whole movie AFAIK. And how many views had it received on 9-11? And the date is another "coincidence". Plus all the incredible LIES told by the administration - now unravelling at warp speed. The admin knew about the attacks beforehand and didn't warn Stevens, lied that there was a "movie protest" that got out of hand - all 100% fabricated.

    Something stinks very badly and IMHO movie was pre-made for the very reason to whip it out when these attacks began as a fake "reason" and also to establish law in the US of "No blasphemy against Islam/Mohammed". A two-fer - a Muslim style "Fast and Furious". Which even includes illicit weaponry the US gave to the Libyan "rebels" aka "jihadis" that Stevens was a big player in.
    Asato Ma Sad Gamaya
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