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    Congressional report blames five ATF employees for Fast and Furious debacle

    Congressional report blames five ATF employees for Fast and Furious debacle

    Published July 31, 2012

    | FoxNews.com

    WASHINGTON – Congressional Republican investigators have singled out five employees in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to blame for the botched anti-gunrunning operation known as Fast and Furious, in a report on the scandal obtained by Fox News.

    The report, the first of three to be issued from the congressional investigation, concludes that the five employees were responsible for an operation "marred by missteps, poor judgments and inherently reckless strategy." All five have since been reassigned but remain employed in the agency.

    The findings put additional pressure on the Obama administration in an ongoing battle over what higher-level officials knew, if anything, about the ATF operation.

    For more than a year, Republicans have been leading an investigation into Fast and Furious, which was launched in Arizona in late 2009 by ATF, with help from the U.S. attorney's office there. The operation's targets bought nearly 2,000 weapons over several months. But for reasons that are still in dispute, most of the weapons sold were never followed, and high-powered weapons tied to the investigation ended up at crime scenes in Mexico and the United States, including the December 2010 murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

    The Republican-led House voted late in June to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt, but Justice officials since then essentially have said the ball is still in Republicans' court, if they intend to follow through with vows to file a civil lawsuit seeking the remaining documents.

    The congressional investigative report, to be issued Tuesday, specifically faults Acting Director Kenneth Melson; Deputy Director William Hoover; William Newell, special agent in charge of the Phoenix Field Division; William McMahon, deputy assistant director for field operations, and Mark Chait, assistant director for field operations.

    Melson told investigators he felt the Justice Department was making him a scapegoat for the operation's failure.

    "I think they were doing more damage control than anything," he testified, as quoted in the investigative report. "My view is that the whole matter of the department's response in this case was a disaster."

    The congressional investigators noted that Melson "was concerned that Fast and Furious did not end sooner", but they also faulted him for never ordering it to be shut down.

    The report faults Hoover for knowing Newell had employed "risky tactics" but allowing them to continue. Chait, for his part "paid a surprisingly passive role during the operation," while McMahon seemed to be nothing more than a "rubber stamp" for field operations, the report concludes.

    Newell attorney Paul Pelletier blasted House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa in a statement overnight, saying Issa "has consistently shown that he won't let the truth get in the way of his quixotic political witch hunt."

    The two other reports being prepared for release will focus more on the Justice Department's oversight role in the operation and its dealings with congressional investigators. Republicans have suggested Justice officials have resorted to political stonewalling in an attempt to cover up the truth, while administration officials have described the Republican investigation as a witch hunt.

    But several Democrats joined House Republicans in voting for the contempt resolutions after Holder failed to give congressional investigators documents in response to a subpoena last year. Meetings in the run-up to the vote failed to reach a compromise, after President Obama asserted executive privilege over the documents.

    Specifically, the documents at issue are mostly composed of internal Justice Department emails after Feb. 4, 2011, when department officials realized they would have to retract a letter to Congress that denied Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents ever let guns fall into the hands of suspected criminals.

    In one email from early 2011, described to Fox News, Holder told subordinates: "We need answers on this. Not defensive BS. Real answers." The email was among several shown in two separate meetings with House Republicans and Democrats last week.

    Issa, R-Calif., has said it is "critically important" to obtain the post-Feb. 4, 2011, documents at issue because, among other things, they could show whether top officials were "surprised or were already aware" about so-called "gunwalking" in Fast and Furious when confronted with new information. In essence, Republicans say the documents could show whether the false letter was part of a "cover-up."

    In a hearing before the contempt votes, Issa insisted Holder offered "to provide subpoenaed documents only if the committee agrees in advance to close the investigation," adding, "No investigator would ever agree to that."

    But Justice Department officials have disputed that account. A Justice Department official insisted last month the documents at issue "show no intention or attempt to conceal information or mislead (Congress)."

    Nevertheless, Boehner has said that a civil lawsuit to obtain the documents would be pursued.

    Fox News' William LaJeunesse and Laura Prabucki contributed to this report.
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    I'd feel a lot better about this report if I didn't think that CONgress was covering up for the Osama administration....

  3. Found their scapegoats did they?
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    Looks like...

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    Yep, some underlings will lose their jobs, pensions, etc. for carrying out directives from higher up, but it will never be disclosed that the directives actually came from higher up.

    The politically-appointed criminals will get away with their misdeeds.

    JMO......

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    You'd think the sacrificial scapegoats might decide to take care of it themselves. Should we watch for mystery disappearances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseltrooper View Post
    You'd think the sacrificial scapegoats might decide to take care of it themselves. Should we watch for mystery disappearances?
    We're talking liberal cockroaches here, career bureaucrats, not men with actual balls...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    Yep, some underlings will lose their jobs, pensions, etc. for carrying out directives from higher up, but it will never be disclosed that the directives actually came from higher up.

    The politically-appointed criminals will get away with their misdeeds.

    JMO......

    From the article:

    "have since been reassigned but remain employed in the agency"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    I'd feel a lot better about this report if I didn't think that CONgress was covering up for the Osama administration....
    They know the fix is in and/or they are a part of it.

    They know that Soetoro is a dictator, that Robomney will throw the election, that the Supreme Court is part of the cabal, and they are covering their collective asses for the coming tyranny.

    There is no longer any hope in the political system that is corrupt from top to bottom.

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    We know they did not act on their own and that Holder and now Hillary both were involved, Hillary was the one that came up with the idea and helped work out some of the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    Yep, some underlings will lose their jobs, pensions, etc. for carrying out directives from higher up, but it will never be disclosed that the directives actually came from higher up.

    The politically-appointed criminals will get away with their misdeeds.

    JMO......

    Not they won't, they will be rewarded.

    Did you notice the weasel words helping to form public opinion er uhh informing the public? "high-powered weapons"
    “weapons of war don’t belong on the streets.” - Diane Feinstein - July 22, 2012

    You know, things like full auto assault rifles, predator drones, MRAPs, Bearcats ...

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    It took them how long to come up with this lame azz chit? Friggin coke heads.

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    Ubama's parole officer, Eric Holder, will take care of this. These 5 volunteer patsies will be paid very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by changed View Post
    From the article:

    "have since been reassigned but remain employed in the agency"
    Quote Originally Posted by mistaken1 View Post
    Not they won't, they will be rewarded.

    Did you notice the weasel words helping to form public opinion er uhh informing the public? "high-powered weapons"
    My main point being, the higher-ups (who are all political appointees and not regular employees) will remain unscathed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    My main point being, the higher-ups (who are all political appointees and not regular employees) will remain unscathed.

    LOL I think the higher ups will be more than unscathed, they will be rewarded as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    Yep, some underlings will lose their jobs, pensions, etc.
    Great racket isn't it? When the government and banks break the law peoples hands are slapped or in the case of the banks some fines are paid. When anybody else commits a felony like gunrunning and add to that the charge of the death of a Federal Agent from the guns it would likely be life in prison. So for these 5 ATF people where is the jail time for breaking Federal law?
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    THEIR JUST VIEWED AS PAWNS AND YES LIKELY THREATENED AND OR PAID OFF TO KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    THEIR JUST VIEWED AS PAWNS AND YES LIKELY THREATENED AND OR PAID OFF TO KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT.



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    Quote Originally Posted by changed View Post
    From the article:

    "have since been reassigned but remain employed in the agency"
    That's what I heard this A.M. news too. One agent died and these 5 just reassigned? Very wrong IMHO

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    "...after President Obama asserted executive privilege over the documents."

    And AFAIK, no one has called him on this, yet, other than a bit of whining.

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    Boehner has been a crying "wimp" and nevertheless file
    a "civil" lawsuit? Wow, what a leader. This "carp" has
    taken too long. So "stonewalling" a formal Congressional
    inquiry and contempt of Congress is a civil matter? Lives
    have been lost! WTF! The folks in Ohio need to "full court
    press" Boehner to get tough will Holder's contempt.

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    what is more difficult to believe

    only five people were required to pull off this fiasco
    or
    you are expected to believe that five people could pull this off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    Boehner has been a crying "wimp" and nevertheless file
    a "civil" lawsuit? Wow, what a leader. This "carp" has
    taken too long. So "stonewalling" a formal Congressional
    inquiry and contempt of Congress is a civil matter? Lives
    have been lost! WTF! The folks in Ohio need to "full court
    press" Boehner to get tough will Holder's contempt.

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    We're descending into governmental lawlessness the likes
    of which has been visible in bits and bites since the Kennedy
    assassinations but is overt now. It's an unmasking of the
    "monster" for those with eyes to see and who possess discernment
    and historical perspective. Yup, shoulda, woulda, coulda and
    I know it's degrading right before us and fast becoming self
    evident. It'll really "confirm" for me if Boehner goes with "zerO"
    when "O" has his what.....100th golf outting.? Holder joins
    them for a photo op and we're done.

    It's looking like a big club of compromised "scumbags"!

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    Yeah, sure and I've got ocean front property for sale in Nebraska if anybody's interested.

    They have their scapegoats (who will continue to be employed just as they are now and may even end up rewarded) and are hoping this will all go away. I hope Issa smells the BS and keeps digging.

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