The Lesser of Two Evils Is...Less Evil

[nharrold]

You sure are slick, I will say that for you but some of us would rather not vote at all then knowingly vote for the two candidates you list. I WILL NOT stand before God on judgement day and tell him, but I was just voting for the lessor of two evil cause it was only a little less evil...
He would look at me and tell me that voting for evil whether large or small is STILL EVIL.

I have a conscience and also a family of children and grand children and I refuse to show weakness to them in this way. And yes, it is a weakness to vote the same old way.
This kind of thinking is what has gotten us to this place in history in the first place.

And believe you me, GOD IS WATCHING us.

I also agree with Dennis that you may be a paid shill to try to corrupt those on this forum who have woken up to what is happening to our country and made a decision to step back from the party lines and vote our conscience for a change.

I haven't voted on party lines in a very long time. I can honestly say the last person that remotely looked like a good candidate and I voted for him was Reagan. And they even got to him in the end.

I rejected the "conventional wisdom" long ago, having determined that it is precisely that foolishness that has gotten us to where we find ourselves today. Doesn't matter how slick the argument and the rhetoric; it is destroying our country.

[nharrold]

All that being said, I still fail to see how people can believe that Romney is equally as bad as Obama after all we have been through in the last 3+ years.

I don't really see "evil" as quantifiable, in the sense of being "equally as bad". Rather, when considering Romney, I find that his record shows a distinct trend toward situational integrity. That is sufficient for me to reject him completely as a candidate; he's an empty shell of a man. In other words, I wouldn't select him to feed my critters while I was making my monthly run to town for groceries.

Compare him to Ron Paul, whose record shows a permanent, consistent application of integrity and honesty. He always spoke up for and did what was right (IMHO) and he never changed his positions for political expediency.

It'd be rather refreshing to have someone like that in government.

[shane]

Couple thoughts...

Romney and Obama may well have different pressure on the gas pedal, but both
will still have the bus heading over the cliff and the disaster at the bottom of the
cliff won't be any different whether you went over cliffs edge at 80 mph or 60 mph.

If you want to suggest we'd have more time with Romney before going over cliff, be
careful cause with Obama gone many who worked against him & his policies will then
go to sleep with a sigh of relief and discover too late that Romney can/will then do or
finish what Obama couldn't. For instance, a Romney administration can/will more easily
get through some new 'reasonable' gun restrictions that Obama would not have dared.

These two guys are like Hitler & Stalin, IMO. Voting for either, win or lose, endorses
who you voted for with a bigger mandate to go forth more boldly doing their evil in
eroding our Constitutional liberties.

Too many people for too many decades have settled for the old 'lessor of two evils'
argument and justly are reaping and fully deserve the evil that that has unleashed.
That won't ever end until enough people start voting their conscience, win or lose.
You'll either be an example & inspiration to others to also begin doing so, when you
do, or you'll be reinforcing the continuation of ever more 'lessor of two evils' slide
downward and the very real evil that inevitably unleashes when you failed to say
"no more".

- Shane

[rhughe13]

Thank you Dennis. The goal of lesser of two evils cult, is to find a way to appeal to Christians. Especially the ones that are riding the fence a little, or maybe don't attend church, but had that foundation once as a child. Facebook is riddled with lesser of two evil cults creating a false God (Romney) under the guise of Obama (Devil). The whole lesser evils scheme keeps the two party system in a strong hold.

But they've gotten so sneaky as to not mention Romney, but use the power of suggestion. We've gotta do all we can to keep evil Obama from getting elected, but they'll never go so far as to say how to make that happen. The lesser of two evils cult knows that if they keep pounding that into your head, you'll be voting for Romney.

With Romney being anti-gun, pro abortion and pro gay marriage, you just won't see that being passed around because it's his forbidden evil, and they try to avoid that exposure. Even if it does get brought up, that's when you hear something like, "Yea, but that's better than having Obama for four more years, ha ha ha ha"

What the hell are people thinking when saying that?

And in my opinion, they have a nation of millions following them. I'm amazed at how many I see that are weekly church goers that are caught up in the Evils cult too.


Maybe tshirts, billboards and bumper stickers with our two evil candidates pictures with devils horns and WWJD might wake some of them up.

[Hfcomms]

The whole thing is so simple to me at this time. Both parties are lock, stock and barrel owned by the globalists who are sworn to bring this nation down and indeed with just the fiscal numbers alone it is now inevitable that the collapse is certain. All that you have left now is your integrity. I can't violate my oath to support, protect and preserve. Rulers are chosen by God and not man [multitudes of scripture available] and because of that our course is certain. Yet, I can still do my duty and cast a vote for one who will uphold his oath. Win or lose matters not to me as God is the final arbiter of who assumes power. At the very least I'll know that I have performed my duty and did my part to stem the tide. Hey folks, God has a plan here that is far above our understanding and that plan requires a lot of pain in the short term. [The scriptures can't be broken] We are going to go down this path even though we may scream against it. The end result will be good even though there is a lot of pain in the short term. Hold on to the bigger picture here. For believers we are in the world but not of the world. We fail when we forget that.

[TerryK]

The whole thing is so simple to me at this time. Both parties are lock, stock and barrel owned by the globalists who are sworn to bring this nation down and indeed with just the fiscal numbers alone it is now inevitable that the collapse is certain.

Then why has Ron Paul with all his integrity been a Republican for all these years??

[nomadcrna]

I'm done here.

This board has gone in a direction that I'm no longer interested in supporting.

The racism was bad enough but now people are "traitors" over this?

Good luck all.

"I'm going to vote for 'xxxxxx' because he's got the best ideas for leading the country" = not a traitor


"I'm going to hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils" = traitor


Telling others that they should also vote for the lesser of two evils = total traitor to the max, and IMO subversive, equal in every way to the regimes around the world working to destroy us.



And you can be as "speechless" as your phony self-righteousness calls for....

[shane]

Then why has Ron Paul with all his integrity been a Republican for all these years??

The Republican party was much more the traditional conservative republican party of old when he first joined,
also, as it's strayed left over the decades, he's been a growing thorn in the side of the party leadership with
always voting his conscience instead of following the party line. Bush 1 actually supported Davoli (I think was
his name), a democrat who changed to republican, when he ran against RP in the republican primary down here
some years back. I voted for him for years when I was in his Congressional district before re-redistricting, and
local/state republican party hacks down here were rarely ever supportive of him getting re-elected again. He'd
continually shame them all with his call to return republican party back to its more traditional conservative roots.

- Shane

[Dennis Olson]

I'm done here.

This board has gone in a direction that I'm no longer interested in supporting.

The racism was bad enough but now people are "traitors" over this?

Good luck all.

Buh bye. I'm sure you'll be able to find a new cyber-home at one of the myriad neocon ass kissing fora out there. Enjoy...

[rhughe13]

I'm done here.

This board has gone in a direction that I'm no longer interested in supporting.

The racism was bad enough but now people are "traitors" over this?

Good luck all.

No outrage over people that have moral convictions being trampled by "Throwing their vote away?"

I'm guessing your job is done here since you aren't recruiting enough.

[Hfcomms]

Then why has Ron Paul with all his integrity been a Republican for all these years??

Has Ron Paul left the Republican party or have they left him? The Republican party has changed a great deal since the days of Eisenhower. The first time I voted was in 1980 and the Republicans have changed so much since then you can't even see that they shared the same heritage. So just who has changed....the conservatives or the party?

[Coulter]

Since you asked gawarriorqueen, here you go:

Rombama was selected by the elites to be the candidate to run against the chocolate messiah, as he was the candidate who A) most closely resembles Obamney in terms of his politics, and B) is incredibly UNlikeable, and C) is the only candidate who can make His Holiness look good by comparison. (Try to tell me that either A, B or C is incorrect n any way.)

All the other candidates were, in some form or fashion, destroyed by the MSM, who takes their orders from those same elites. Ron Paul, being the biggest threat to them, required blatant election manipulation, as early on he was clearly in the lead. Thus a full court MSM press to marginalized him, coupled with the aforementioned election manipulation. The MSM convinced you sheep that RP was a nut, and voting for him was a wasted vote. You sheep bought that lie, and coupled with the manipulat electin process that showed him falling behind, you dropped him as "unelectable."

The goal here is to elect Obama to a second term so he can complete the destruction of the Republic, and the elites have to run a candidate against him with a plausible ability to win, so the the sheep think that Obama won fairly (which if course is not the case.) Were Ron Paul the presumptive nominee right now, he would be destroying Obama with FACTS. The Obama machine cannot allow something like that. Rombama is a very weak debater, and has a very weak campaign team. All this is entirely by design.

TPTB last need to fan the sheep's collective fear of Obama, in order that "the republican base" would freak out and get totally behind the ABO (anyone but Obama) meme. And that Rombama, being presented/packaged as the "only viable candidate," would have the sheep campaigning for him (as this thread CLEARLY demonstrates.)

The bottom line is this: you sheep have been manipulated for decades, and it keeps happening because you are all collectively too dense/blind to see that you're being manipulated. Further, most of you WANT AND NEED to be told what to think. Most of you are incapable of independent thought when it comes to politics. You FEAR. TPTB know this, so each cycle, the fear level is ratcheted up until you sheep fall into line, and do the bidding of the elites.

Quite frankly, I'm completely disgusted with you easy it is for them to play you. I'm amazed that you sheep are evidently pathologically unable to break out of the meme that encases you like the cocoons in the Matrix. You WANT it. You NEED it. And you lash out at those who threaten to give you the red pill. You people are the most serious threat to the nation today. And when you go vote for this liberal scum Rombama, you'll do so with (so you think) your eyes wide open.

But in the end, Obamney will win. Because that's what the elites want. That's what they've planned for, and that's how they've played you. And you sheep WILL play your ABO part, like the good little fools that you are.


And you'll get exactly the government you deserve. And I'm gonna get the hell out of this festering pustule of a country before it becomes complete fascist. Hopefully, I can be out within a couple of years. But you all enjoy the chains you've placed on yourselves in the mold of Jacob Marley in A Christmas Carol. You earned those chains. You've forged them link by link. And "Tis a ponderous chain."

Now you have my thoughts on the elections "all the way to the end." clear enough for you? I dare you to refute any of what I just said without resorting to completely tortured mental masturbation..

First of all I don't think that a fair election is going to happen - period.

But just for grins assume it would.

Assuming that Romney would win do you really believe that he would destroy the US as fast as obama?

If your choice would be between two who will destroy the country but one would take a couple of years longer - would you vote for the longer route? Or would you prefer to vote for a real live conservative who has no chance period.

What country do you think is safe?

[Dennis Olson]

Assuming that Romney would win do you really believe that he would destroy the US as fast as obama?

Yes, absolutely. He'd just have a slightly different approach.

If your choice would be between two who will destroy the country but one would take a couple of years longer - would you vote for the longer route?

No. Why would I? Why would ANYONE if they know that to continue playing the "election game" would be to continue over the cliff?

Or would you prefer to vote for a real live conservative who has no chance period.


Yes, in a heartbeat. And so would anyone with half a brain. Because if everyone did that, the person would win by a landslide. But of course, you already know that, and are just trying to make your sheep self feel better about "not wasting your vote," even though that vote is killing us.

[Josie]

My personal opinion is that I don't feel as though I can take four more years of Holder's InJustice department. My fellow citizenry cannot afford four more years of Napolitano and the department of Homeland Security protecting us by taking our freedoms. Our economy cannot withstand another four year assult by Turbo Timmy and his bumbling incompetence. I personally cannot abide the assult on my personal religion (Roman Catholic) by Seblilius and the department of Health and Human Services for four more years. Our energy grid cannot withstand another four years of Chu and his department of non-Energy. And I could go on and on. This isn't even counting all the "czars" that make policy but have never, ever been voted on by We the People or our elected representatives.

With the latest ruling on Obamacare, our highest court in the land has shown it's complexion has changed. There are still good people on this court but can we really afford to swing the balance more to the left by another Obama appointment? If that happens, that is the end of the ball game for sure. Might as well pack it up and take cover.

It is my personal opinion (and you can call me brainless traitor if it makes you feel better) is that Obama's gotta go. I personally don't feel that I can afford the luxury of voting for the person I really, really want. (Heck, Cain was my guy. See what happened to him when he became too much of a threat.) If Paul get's the nod from the RNC...wonderful...great. He's got my vote. (Although I feel he'd be more effective on the floor of Congress raising hell. Maybe that's what he needs to do more of. Grandma always said, it's the squeeky wheel that get's oiled.) If Romney get's the nod...fine. He's got my vote. If Ted Nuggent would get the nomination...Whooopie!!!! He'd get my vote, my support and my first born!

My own personal mantra this election season is "DUMP THE INCUMBENT". Any candidate for president, senator, representative, judge, sheriff, county board, police cheif, mayor, county clerk, secretary of state, governor, or dog catcher that are already in office will get the "no" from me. I'm cleaning house. Join me if you want to.

[MDINMT]

The Lesser of Two Evils Is...Still Evil

[Dennis Olson]

Let me make this as clear as I can. IMHO


Romney can't beat Obama. That's why he was selected.

[Sully]

You know what Tuvia? You're a fool. And those that think like you are fools. Sheep. Responsible for the situation we're in today. So don't you dare try to suggest what we should do, or what is a throw-away vote.

Dennis, I'm not a fool or a sheep. And I am not responsible for the situation we're in today. Tuvia is right...we have 2 choices and although Romney wasn't my choice in the primaries I will vote for him against Obama. I think anyone who doesn't vote should not complain about the President they get or what he does to our country.They threw away their vote and deserve what they get.

Sully

[Dennis Olson]

[LightEcho]

Dennis, I'm not a fool or a sheep. And I am not responsible for the situation we're in today. Tuvia is right...we have 2 choices and although Romney wasn't my choice in the primaries I will vote for him against Obama. I think anyone who doesn't vote should not complain about the President they get or what he does to our country.They threw away their vote and deserve what they get.

Sully

Sheez.... I was ready to back you up until you hit that ridiculous note strummed by all the lamestream media. I still think you are wrong, but you are welcome to be wrong until you wake up. But since when does anyone forfeit their right to complain when the controlling elite offer two traitorous puppets that I would not elect as sanitations engineer?

[Sully]

Sheez.... I was ready to back you up until you hit that ridiculous note strummed by all the lamestream media. I still think you are wrong, but you are welcome to be wrong until you wake up. But since when does anyone forfeit their right to complain when the controlling elite offer two traitorous puppets that I would not elect as sanitations engineer?

You're actually right...I shouldn't have said that because I know if I thought one was just as bad as the other I wouldn't vote for either one.
I don't think we'll survive as a country if Obama has 4 more years but I also don't think Romney will be anywhere near as bad as Obama. Who knows for sure?

Sully

[Wise Owl]

Puppets are correct.

Obamation=puppet #1
Romination=puppet #2

Only non puppet is Ron Paul who is not going to run for congress again. He has been head butting those RINOS for years without much support from congress OR the people of the USA. The only way he can get done what needs to get done is to be our President.

Personally those who choose the lessor of, are exactly what Dennis said. Stoopid sheep who believe what the pundits say about throwing their vote away.
As long as you continue to watch FAUX news and listen to those same type RINOS on the radio you are swallowing swill....

[The Flying Dutchman]

My personal opinion is that I don't feel as though I can take four more years of Holder's InJustice department. My fellow citizenry cannot afford four more years of Napolitano and the department of Homeland Security protecting us by taking our freedoms. Our economy cannot withstand another four year assult by Turbo Timmy and his bumbling incompetence. I personally cannot abide the assult on my personal religion (Roman Catholic) by Seblilius and the department of Health and Human Services for four more years. Our energy grid cannot withstand another four years of Chu and his department of non-Energy. And I could go on and on. This isn't even counting all the "czars" that make policy but have never, ever been voted on by We the People or our elected representatives.

With the latest ruling on Obamacare, our highest court in the land has shown it's complexion has changed. There are still good people on this court but can we really afford to swing the balance more to the left by another Obama appointment? If that happens, that is the end of the ball game for sure. Might as well pack it up and take cover.

It is my personal opinion (and you can call me brainless traitor if it makes you feel better) is that Obama's gotta go. I personally don't feel that I can afford the luxury of voting for the person I really, really want. (Heck, Cain was my guy. See what happened to him when he became too much of a threat.) If Paul get's the nod from the RNC...wonderful...great. He's got my vote. (Although I feel he'd be more effective on the floor of Congress raising hell. Maybe that's what he needs to do more of. Grandma always said, it's the squeeky wheel that get's oiled.) If Romney get's the nod...fine. He's got my vote. If Ted Nuggent would get the nomination...Whooopie!!!! He'd get my vote, my support and my first born!

My own personal mantra this election season is "DUMP THE INCUMBENT". Any candidate for president, senator, representative, judge, sheriff, county board, police cheif, mayor, county clerk, secretary of state, governor, or dog catcher that are already in office will get the "no" from me. I'm cleaning house. Join me if you want to.

Personally, Lady J. I tend to agree with your thoughts on the matter.

[Hansa44]

You're actually right...I shouldn't have said that because I know if I thought one was just as bad as the other I wouldn't vote for either one.
I don't think we'll survive as a country if Obama has 4 more years but I also don't think Romney will be anywhere near as bad as Obama. Who knows for sure?

Sully

Sully, from what I'm seeing, this country is not going to survive anyway. No matter who gets elected. Not as we once knew it.

[rhughe13]

With the latest ruling on Obamacare, our highest court in the land has shown it's complexion has changed. There are still good people on this court but can we really afford to swing the balance more to the left by another Obama appointment? If that happens, that is the end of the ball game for sure. Might as well pack it up and take cover.

http://prolifeprofiles.com/mitt-romney-abortion

as late as 2012 says he would nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice John Roberts (who upheld Obamacare)

Seriously think about what you dream might happen, compared to what you know is going to happen.

[Tuvia Bielski]

I probably made a mistake in creating this post. I was worried about sticking my neck out and getting it chopped off. Perhaps this reply is yet another mistake.

Anyway, I just wanted to assure you that I am not, in fact a shill, though I doubt that I would be able to prove that to you. I was a Ron Paul delegate at one time to my state convention (2008). I am not a delegate this year, because I had a conflict the night of the caucus. I also started a company a few years back with a friend sinking my own money into it to attempt to educate people on constitutional ideals (it didn't get very far.) I have put forth effort in the areas that might actually make a difference to try and promote the "good" candidates before it gets to the point where it is too late (the national election). I've seen so many people complain that they hate the candidates on the ballot but have never lifted a finger to change that, as though good candidates magically appear on the ballot without a lot of work in advance.

I had been a lurker for many years and wanted to finally join the community to discuss prepping related issues. Even though I am new as an official member, I felt a conviction to make the post that I did, and I believed that I had written it in an almost completely academic fashion so as to avoid emotional reactions and have a rational discussion. Apparently I was wrong.

[Josie]

http://prolifeprofiles.com/mitt-romney-abortion

as late as 2012 says he would nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice John Roberts (who upheld Obamacare)

Seriously think about what you dream might happen, compared to what you know is going to happen.

Roberts has become the wild card for sure. But Zero's picks of Sotomayor and Kagan leave absolutely no doubt what he would pick to replace Ginsberg if given a chance. And remember nominating and getting a confirmation are two totally different things.

Clean house, people!!

[bagpiper]

Tuvia,
Didn't your mama tell you not to talk about religion or politics with strangers?
Now you know why....academic? (Piper snickers...)
Dude, the Republic is toast, the dollar is done, our enemies are circling... Dennis is exactly correct. You really need to get out more. Ever read Atlas Shrugged? That's about the size of it, and being an Eddie hanging on to the last shred of optimism will have only one result, death.

Myself, it is time to unwrap the flag from the cross, and let your light shine through. To understand that the lesser of two evils, enables evil, and that evil attaches itself to you. Is it a 'sin' to vote for the wrong choice? That's a trick question, its a sin to enable evil WHEN you KNOW what you're doing... thus, I can no longer support the lesser of two evils system.

Ron Paul, although my first choice, is just not the messenger for the message, too ugly, too old. People vote for stupid reasons I've discovered.

Sarah Palin has spunk, charm, she goes after corruption even in her own party, is witty, has personal integrity, and was a target of the Establishment, she didn't run this time because she knew her family was in danger... this country is run by evil men for evil purposes, themselves. Regardless of who is in charge of the White House, the Central Kabuki theater company in Washington DC will go on, until it stops. She frightens them to death, because she's real. It doesn't matter how you feel about her, she was the heir apparent of the Republican party, and they diss her as well as Paul... that's all I need to know....

There is no 'liberty movement' or Christian Patriot community in this country, there are only a large herd of cats.
If that herd of cats, was herded in the single direction of 'Write in Sarah', and even if just the independents, a small number of dems and a high fraction of the repubs did it, the entire election process would be thrown into the wind, crisis time.... think Bush V Gore in oh...20 states...

And the Dark man would declare ...hmm .. what could he do? Declare an invalid election? How could they avoid counting millions of write in votes?
At the end of the day, a bottom up write in campaign is the ONLY way to bypass the Establishment. To write her in would be like assigning an angel of God to fly over DC and NY and rain death from the sky. The shrieking would be heard to the moon. The Secret service would have to assign her a detail, the wailing and gnashing of teeth would grind it all to a halt and thuds would be heard raining off the TBTF skyscrapers in NY... the blacks would go nuts and declare it a racial conspiracy, and the dems would go catatonic...

Sounds like great fun... all Sarah would have to do is come on TV and say "I'm flattered", wave them pretty eyelashes, and sit back to watch the lawyers grind it all to a halt... I wonder if total chaos would ensue... a fun show to watch as we circle the drain.
A good way to kick some establishment cahunes... and go out in style.

But no, we ain't gonna get together to do anything...nuthin, nada, zip, because our very intelligence and individuality is our Achilles heel, and evil knows, we are an army of cats.
While the forces of evil will do what? Get together, at least for the election...

[Foothiller]

Translation of OP: The Party is more important than the man, the country, or the Consitution. It is far more important than your conscience or doing the right thing.

The Party must triumph over the other Party!

I recall other countries where Party took precedence, such as the Nazi Party, the Communist Party, the Baath Party. Loyalty to political parties over justice, truth, and county always works out badly and I don't see American electoral politics doing anything but pandering pre-election, then continuing the destructive core policies in this country which are geared to benefit those at the top.

To me it doesn't matter which bank-backed free trade globalist totatlitarian lying piece of shit gets elected. It will just be a different face on the same monster.

We got here by people voting for the lesser of two evils. And by AMericans allowing themselves to be told what to think and not thinking for themselves.

The status quo MSM rules most people's thoughts. They seem to be incapable of imagining anything but Ds and Rs who represnt the same macro interests and those aren't the interests of working Americans.

They are the interests of the FSA. The left caters to the lower rungs of the FSA, while the right caters to the highest rungs. Each loves to point out the others' FSA and blame them for all the problems.

See the point people are missing is that the FSA is multinationals, it is the insurance industry, it is big pharm, it is the auto industry, it is government employees, it is Wall St. It is the welfare queens, the people on medicaid, disability, welfare, food stamps.

Both sides love to demonize the other without acknowledging they support the same principles.

Just look at Mitt's budget plan. $100B in cuts? when the current deficit is $1500 B.

Fiscal conservative?

If you believe that then pass me whatever you're drinking or snorting, because there is no marijuana in the world that's strong enough to completely subvert reality displayed by the charts of US government deficit spending under both R's and D's.

[Hfcomms]

Let me make this as clear as I can. IMHO


Romney can't beat Obama. That's why he was selected.

Yeah, that is so obvious that it's pitiful. It's simply a repeat of the past. Look who they ran against Obama last time. Was McSame seriously all the Republicans had to run against Bama? And even before that remember when the Republicans trotted out Bob Dole to run against Klinton for the second term? I mean really..........

[gawarriorqueen]

Since you asked gawarriorqueen, here you go:

Rombama was selected by the elites to be the candidate to run against the chocolate messiah, as he was the candidate who A) most closely resembles Obamney in terms of his politics, and B) is incredibly UNlikeable, and C) is the only candidate who can make His Holiness look good by comparison. (Try to tell me that either A, B or C is incorrect n any way.)

All the other candidates were, in some form or fashion, destroyed by the MSM, who takes their orders from those same elites. Ron Paul, being the biggest threat to them, required blatant election manipulation, as early on he was clearly in the lead. Thus a full court MSM press to marginalized him, coupled with the aforementioned election manipulation. The MSM convinced you sheep that RP was a nut, and voting for him was a wasted vote. You sheep bought that lie, and coupled with the manipulat electin process that showed him falling behind, you dropped him as "unelectable."

The goal here is to elect Obama to a second term so he can complete the destruction of the Republic, and the elites have to run a candidate against him with a plausible ability to win, so the the sheep think that Obama won fairly (which if course is not the case.) Were Ron Paul the presumptive nominee right now, he would be destroying Obama with FACTS. The Obama machine cannot allow something like that. Rombama is a very weak debater, and has a very weak campaign team. All this is entirely by design.

TPTB last need to fan the sheep's collective fear of Obama, in order that "the republican base" would freak out and get totally behind the ABO (anyone but Obama) meme. And that Rombama, being presented/packaged as the "only viable candidate," would have the sheep campaigning for him (as this thread CLEARLY demonstrates.)

The bottom line is this: you sheep have been manipulated for decades, and it keeps happening because you are all collectively too dense/blind to see that you're being manipulated. Further, most of you WANT AND NEED to be told what to think. Most of you are incapable of independent thought when it comes to politics. You FEAR. TPTB know this, so each cycle, the fear level is ratcheted up until you sheep fall into line, and do the bidding of the elites.

Quite frankly, I'm completely disgusted with you easy it is for them to play you. I'm amazed that you sheep are evidently pathologically unable to break out of the meme that encases you like the cocoons in the Matrix. You WANT it. You NEED it. And you lash out at those who threaten to give you the red pill. You people are the most serious threat to the nation today. And when you go vote for this liberal scum Rombama, you'll do so with (so you think) your eyes wide open.

But in the end, Obamney will win. Because that's what the elites want. That's what they've planned for, and that's how they've played you. And you sheep WILL play your ABO part, like the good little fools that you are.


And you'll get exactly the government you deserve. And I'm gonna get the hell out of this festering pustule of a country before it becomes complete fascist. Hopefully, I can be out within a couple of years. But you all enjoy the chains you've placed on yourselves in the mold of Jacob Marley in A Christmas Carol. You earned those chains. You've forged them link by link. And "Tis a ponderous chain."

Now you have my thoughts on the elections "all the way to the end." clear enough for you? I dare you to refute any of what I just said without resorting to completely tortured mental masturbation..

Sorry you got so worked up ... I just sincerely wanted to get the complete picture. Did you not understand when I said "I agree with you"? Thanks for your explanation, and I take no offense to your name calling. Peace.

[Josie]

I probably made a mistake in creating this post. I was worried about sticking my neck out and getting it chopped off. Perhaps this reply is yet another mistake.

Don't worry Tuvia. This goes on every presidential election. Some of the memebers see it as a chance to promote their hero, Paul and resort to name calling in a effort to get other members to come to the light. Other members point fingers and yell things like "vote waster" and blame them for commies like Zero taking up residence at 1600 Pensylvania Ave. Other members proudly claim that they don't believe the whole process is above board and it's fixed, so they refuse to participate and stay home on election day. It takes all kinds.

But after the election, we all come together and b!tch and moan for the next four years because in spite of our best efforts, the whole thing is going down the toliet anyway.

[Brutus]

Romney is NOT what we are left with, "yet". The Republican nomination is not a done deal until after Tampa.

You are giving in to the same old thing once again which people have been forced to do for decades now. The elite give us two candidates that have been screened by them to get the job done that the ELITE want done, not what is good for our country.

If you give in and vote for either of the two the elite give us, they win yet again. I will not play their game anymore. NEVER.

Go ahead and vote for Romney, you will get the same results altho maybe a little slower but it WILL be the same. Count on it.

Romney is also a marxist. He just has better sheep's clothing on.

If you think, for good or for ill, that anyone other than Romney is going to get the Republican nomination you need to visit your doctor and get your anti-psychotic meds adjusted to something a bit stronger.

[Brutus]

I don't see how Valerie Jarrett can possibly allow an election. I would bet every cent I've got it will not happen. They cannot afford to lose. They really can't take the chance. So. Something will occur to indefinitely postpone the electoral process.

Keep in mind, people said the same thing about Clinton in 2000 and GWBush in 2008.

Ain't gonna happen......

[LightEcho]

People get upset thinking they are told that to vote is worthless. And, they should get upset. But the problem is not in the reality of the message, but in the cause of the reality.

We are being given two poison pills and told you have to choose one. I vote to feed both poison pills to the game master.

[Brutus]

So......

Whenever the conventions are over and done with and Ron Paul publicly declares his support for Romney, then he'll be a traitor too?

[Dennis Olson]

And if he DOES NOT, will you apologize to the forum for being a jackass?

[Brutus]

And if he DOES NOT, will you apologize to the forum for being a jackass?

Oh?

I'm a jackass for asking an honest question?

(No, I'm already a jackass, but it's still an honest question......)

[Dennis Olson]

No, it's not an honest question. It's a borderline troll. I would be absolutely SHOCKED if RP endorsed a Constitution-ass-wiper like Rombama.

[Josie]

No, it's not an honest question. It's a borderline troll. I would be absolutely SHOCKED if RP endorsed a Constitution-ass-wiper like Rombama.

NOTHING shocks me anymore. Who woulda thunk Roberts, of all the justices, would have voted the way he did?

[Dennis Olson]

I believe that Roberts was threatened or coerced in some fashion. Nothing else explains what happened. (That he was originally going to vote it down, but changed his mind, even writing the majority opinion personally.)