Actually Shinmen, Be Well is correct. The general requirement for posting articles is to AT LEAST post a few paragraphs, with the entire article strongly preferred. Since you're new, I won't smack you with a trout....
I remember very well, as I got an infraction for it....
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You and about a hundred others....
Bastard Son Of Lee Marvin
Oooops, sorry, forgot....
http://freedomfighterradio.net/2012/...time-the-ndaa/
By: Jim (Host of FREEDOM FIGHTER RADIO.COM)
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Patriots are not neutral when it comes to dealing with America’s enemies the islamists. Allen West the new Benedict Arnold has now taken a position of compromise. He is also now on record for the most egregious evisceration of our Bill of Rights in our lifetime. Allen West has shown his traitorous colors as it relates to principles or belief in Liberty. Allen West also has LIED to America and has made the false claim that Islam has been hijacked by radicals. Sorry Mr. West Islam has not been hijacked, as it was and is founded by a pedophile terrorist illiterate desert nomad.
"The evil genius always wins"
Bastard Son Of Lee Marvin
Do you have any evidence he is a Christian Imperialist? Is it some kind of organization? or just an ideology that people have to varying degrees? I assume you mean West wants the US to invade non-Christian countries and forcibly convert them? If so, I hope you have some kind of sources. Since the C.I. are just like the Taliban, does that mean they sodomize boys, hate women and use them as beasts of burden, and enjoy killing all infidels?
Did your mommy do you homework for you in school?!
Do I also have to do your homework as well?
You can't look up the term, "Christian Imperialism/Imperialist" on Google.
Working a keyboard hurts your fingers?!
ST
"The evil genius always wins"
"Allan West is a complete lunatic.
It matters not what he did in the military--if ordered to nail his tongue to a 2x4 he would salute and do it.
He is just another government employee sucking off the taxpayer tit."
I don't know A. West and I don't know the author of this quote above, but I'm leaning towards the above author as the lunatic. I'm not trying to be harsh but your comments are rather ill-rational.
West's comments are pretty spot on from what I heard, I'm not sure I agree with some of the votes he has placed. Overall I would have some interest in voting for the ticket if he was the VP.
What *I* find ironic is how many people are all afroth over Rombama's VP pick. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROMBAMA AND OBAMNEY. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEMS AND REPS. TPTB LOVE IT WHEN YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ON SH*T LIKE THIS.
You people are the reason we're in the crapper. So have fun spinning yourselves into a lather about NOTHING....
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We also have another policy here.... The person that makes the claims backs them up with the facts or articles when asked... SOP here....
Shinmen, diamonds is correct.
The responsible way to post info is to post the info. If your comments consist of keywords and clues and words or phrases that meaning nothing without internet searchers, then you're not being a very responsible person. More like an "attention getter" IMHO.
Asato Ma Sad Gamaya
Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya
Leave illusion, come to the Truth
Leave the darkness, come to the Light
Why don't the just have a horse run for VP??
I mean isn't to aspire in politics today nothing but a dog and pony show?
Think about this folks..............................we are talking about some who at least in theory is running for the highest office in the land and possibly the developed world.................and look of the cast of characters we have to pick from..........
Any capable, intelligent and compassionate constitutional candidate is always been marginalized in this system..................Ralph Nader was the last one they ridiculed..........and I would have loved.............I mean loved to have seen him in the last presidential debates..................
Yep, or least different sides of the same coin. However, I would prefer the slow decent into a fascist state controlled society instead of the the full throttle version. My real struggle is to decide which party I want to get blamed for the financial collapse.
One more comment on West being a lunatic and Christian Imperialist. I think West sees Islam as a threat in the same way as Thomas Jefferson did when he sent the Marines “From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.” I don't think that belief or being a Christian makes him a lunatic, if it is his real belief and not just part of the scheme to steal more freedoms from us peasants.
Bastard Son Of Lee Marvin
So I have to do everyone's homework?!
Allan West is a "Dominion-ist/Christian Imperialist."
He is for total and complete war against "Islam." --and is completely for open (pre-emptive) war against Iran without any regard for the implications and blow-back (WWIII).
When you act upon the dictates of your religion (in this case ultra-whacko Christian conservatism) where he believes that he is on the "right side" of the ultimate showdown (Armageddon), and he acts to propel this showdown... this makes you a "Christian Imperialist." There is no difference between these Christian whackos, and the radical Islamic whackos--both sides are acting to propel their own version of Armageddon.
I cannot help it here is people do not listen to his speeches, or pay attention to his writings and so on.
Don't whine if you are not up on the information curve, and have not done their homework.
Here's some links to what I am talking about....
http://www.bettendorf.com/node/1216
http://oasislife.org/topic/christian-imperialism/
I know this is way over the head of many people.
Sorry.
This is also a very good article on the subject posted on Lew Rockwell's site a few months ago, but I cannot find a way to dig though his archives.
The responsible way to post info is to post the info. If your comments consist of keywords and clues and words or phrases that meaning nothing without internet searchers, then you're not being a very responsible person. More like an "attention getter" IMHO.
Like I said--do your homework and required reading before coming to my class.
ST
"The evil genius always wins"
{mod hat on} Hostile debunking is frowned on here. Additionally, as noted up-thread, it's on you to prove your hypothesis, not on everyone else to disprove it. That's not "doing their homework", it's doing *yours*. I might point out that you haven't actually posted any quotes or excerpts from Allan West that support your hypothesis that he's a "Dominionist" bent on launching the fifth Crusade. There are a lot of folks, myself included, who feel the world would be a better place if non-Sufi Islam were eradicated; to that end, it would be necessary to hollow most of the Middle East out like a gourd. The vast majority of those who believe this do so strictly from a societal/cultural position, not a religious one. Non-Sufi Islam is not compatible with modern civilization, and they prove it many times a day.
Strike me down, and I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
Oderint dum metuant
ALL DAY LONG!!!
In the words of Diane Chambers, "If ignorance is bliss, this must be Eden."
THIS whole thread makes me sick. Tell me, who the **** would all you rocket scientist would chose and why. its just a suggestion, not confirmed in any way and y'all are having a litter of kittens. you have to give and take in this cursed election.
Time to decide who is on the person who wins or loses.....DAMN. this is our lives y'all are just casually talking about!!!!
I'm not endorsing Condi, I just want a strong VP, you can't have a perfect person. So I suggest that y'all start backing someone so we can get on with the DAMN show. It doesn't matter who it is, it is what the **** it is. Decide who you want in the WH, the devil we know, or the devil we don't.
Personally, I want the devil we don't know, I mean damn, It has to get ****ing better. We have no other direction to go without total annihilation.
In the words of Diane Chambers, "If ignorance is bliss, this must be Eden."
Problem is "we" have no say.
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Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya
Leave illusion, come to the Truth
Leave the darkness, come to the Light
I am not your student or pupil. Maybe time to put you on ignore.Like I said--do your homework and required reading before coming to my class.
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Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya
Leave illusion, come to the Truth
Leave the darkness, come to the Light
Bastard Son Of Lee Marvin
here are a lot of folks, myself included, who feel the world would be a better place if non-Sufi Islam were eradicated; to that end, it would be necessary to hollow most of the Middle East out like a gourd. The vast majority of those who believe this do so strictly from a societal/cultural position, not a religious one. Non-Sufi Islam is not compatible with modern civilization, and they prove it many times a day.
Thank you for proving/making my point.
This is exactly what Allan West believes in as well--and it is the view of the "Christian Imperialist/s" BTW (despite you thinking it is all "societal" and so on).
Which makes this kind of belief completely insane, because it will cause WWIII, but that's perfectly okay huh?!
And it being perfectly okay with global-thermo-nuclear-war blow-back is what makes Allan West a complete lunatic.
"The evil genius always wins"
Bastard Son Of Lee Marvin
But back to the original OP and a good VP candidate...
ALLAN KEYES.
A statesman.
A constitutionalist.
An eloquent, passionate speaker.
Highly educated.
Yeah Obama beat him.... In communist Illinois.
No conservative can win in Illinois.
He ran against Obama, and Obama used rat-techniques to get him tossed off the ballot in the Senate race.
Yeah--put Allan Keyes up against the idiot VP we have now.
He'd mop the floor with him.
ST
"The evil genius always wins"
I'm not a Christian Imperialist, never have been, never will be. Be *very* careful about attributing beliefs to anyone other than yourself. I can say for certain that I'm NOT "perfectly ok" with WWIII, nor are most other people, but then not many people were "perfectly ok" with WWII either, despite it being the most effective way to deal with the Nazi problem.
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Oderint dum metuant
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We have half a horse now. All we need is the front half to complete it!
"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
Protesting is like scratching a chalk board. It annoys but produces nothing of substance.
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Haven't you heard? That doesn't matter any more.
"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
Protesting is like scratching a chalk board. It annoys but produces nothing of substance.
You need to learn the difference between opinion and fact. What you posted is trash.
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Shinmen Takezo has been banned from this thread....
Meanwhile, If I recall correctly, this thread is about Condoleezza Rice being on Romney's short list of VP candidates.
Wouldn't her pro-choice stance be at odds with the GOP base?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...p_ref=politicsCondoleezza Rice VP Possibility Denounced By Anti-Abortion Group
The Huffington Post | By Laura Bassett
07/13/2012The Susan B. Anthony List, a prominent anti-abortion rights political action committee, balked at rumors on Friday that Mitt Romney is strongly considering the self-described "mildly pro-choice" Condoleezza Rice as his running mate.
In response to Thursday's Drudge Report story that claims former Secretary of State Rice is "near the top of the list" of Romney's potential vice presidential candidates, SBA List president Marjorie Dannenfelser pointed out that Romney promised to choose a running mate who shared his views on abortion.
"Former Secretary Rice's position on the sanctity of human life makes her an unqualified candidate for Governor Romney to choose as a running mate," Dannenfelser said in a statement on Friday. "Throughout the campaign, including at the Palmetto Freedom Forum last September, he has pledged to us in no uncertain terms that he would choose a pro-life running mate. We have taken Governor Romney at his word and therefore believe Secretary Rice will be ruled out of consideration. Secretary Rice's position violates criteria that Governor Romney himself has laid out.”
Rice is an unlikely choice for running mate, given that she strongly, unequivocally rejected the idea in a March interview on "Fox and Friends." It is possible that Romney staffers fed the rumor to Matt Drudge, with whom they have an established relationship, in order to distract the media from all the damaging controversy over Romney's involvement in decisions at Bain Capital after 1999.
Moreover, Romney did promise to choose an anti-abortion running mate. At the Palmetto Freedom Forum, moderator Robbie George asked Romney if he would choose as a running mate "someone who shares your pro-life and pro-marriage convictions," and Romney responded affirmatively.
Rice described herself as "mildly pro-choice" in a 2008 interview and has said she doesn't think the government should be "forcing its views" on abortion.
What I posted was in no way a personal slam on you or what you posted. Lots of politicians have changed their political affiliations. Some for expediency and some for true changes of values. I only reported the Pres candidate she HAS publicly stated she voted for and that she has also changed party affiliation. IOW, additional information to the discussion, not contradictory.
The thing about common sense is, it is not so common any moreSic Semper Tyrannis
"SO......What's going on in the Land of WTF Just Happened?" ~ Mr. BurtonLake
Other aspects of Ms. Rice may be of concern to the GOP Base too.
I offer below only because it seems up to par on the specifics - although I don't like the comparisons it draws, or the source it comes from. Still, information is where you find it - one just has to take what they perceive of value - and leave the middlings and below in the bucket.
Note below that Randy Bean is a gay (Lesbian) woman. The article makes other connections. Bolding mine.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/0...za-Rice-is-Gay
Hmm.Rumors that Condoleezza Rice is Gay.
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A new round of outings of high-profile Republicans is occurring, and the most recent person caught up in this is none other than Secretary of State Condolezza Rice. WP Reporter Glen Kessler reveals the information that causes one to raise questions in his new book about her.
According to the book, Rice owns a home together with Randy Bean, a documentary filmmaker who once worked with Bill Moyers. Kessler made the discovery by looking through real estate records.
Bean explained the joint ownership and line of credit to Kessler by saying she had medical bills which left her financially drained and Rice helped her by co-purchasing the house along with a third person, Coit Blacker, a Stanford professor who is openly gay.
Blacker later sold his line of credit to Rice and Bean.
None of this, of course, proves that she (Rice) is gay. However, it raises a lot of questions and has triggered rumors that she is. But she, like a lot of Republicans who have been outed in the past, has exhibited homophobic behavior. But whether or not she is gay is not important. What is important is her refusal to speak out when her opinion would have mattered.
For instance, she refused to condemn the execution of people in Iran because they were gay. She has been silent on the Bush administration's refusal to repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell even in the face of ever-increasing troop shortages. Although she is not actively anti-gay, she has stood silently by as Bush and his rabid homophobic allies write anti-gay legislation. Although that in and of itself does not prove that she is gay, many people who are homophobic are also secretly gay themselves.
And by her silence on the right-wing's homophobic behavior, she gives her consent for their radical reinterpretation of the Constitution. It is not necessarily the Fred Phelps' of the world who are responsible for the lack of advancement on gay rights. Rather, it is the people like Rice who are silent and who refuse to speak out against that sort of thing who are the most responsible for mainstreaming hatred in this country. And Republicanism, totally devoid of ideas, is nothing more than segregationism repackaged and recycled for modern consumption.
And Raw Story quotes Steve Clemons as saying that this relationship in question legitimately raises these kinds of questions. I cannot speculate, for instance, on whether or not she is gay. However, at the very least, it seems like she is a highly conflicted person who is living a double life -- one as an apologist for an ideology whose mission is to promote homophobia under the guise of "moral values." The other life is the one mentioned here.
The main thing is, she had a well-paying job at Stanford. She gave it up for what? The fact of the matter is that she is a person who has totally sacrificed her ideals and her values on the altar of power and access. That makes her very similar to those in the press both in the Nixon and the Bush administrations who gave up their dedication to the truth so that they could have access to the powerful. In so doing, she has sacrificed a large portion of her humanity.
The fact of the matter is that she, like all of us, have the unique power to change the world and alter it in unique ways. That observation by Hannah Arendt, is even more relevant now than it was over 50 years ago when it was written. But when you sacrifice your humanity, you lose that ability until you are able to cast out the mote out of your eye and reclaim it.
And there is a broader question that is at play here -- where is she when right-wingers attack affirmative action? Where is she when activist judges decide that affirmative action is no longer relevant? When she actively works against the policies that have made her the kind of successful person that she is today, that shows how she has sacrificed her humanity at the altar of power even more. This makes her similar to people like Clarence Thomas, who benefitted from affirmative action programs and then turned around and opposed the very programs that made him a successful person.
Dobbin
Ego sum, quia ego hinnitu
Have you read the latter half of the Book of Matthew yet or even Revelations? If not you might want to brush up on it cause WW3 is going to happen it's not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when" and since humanity tends to take a leap off into the deep end of stupidity on average about every 2000 years we're a wee bit overdue.
K-
Sure it's going to happen. But do WE want to be the ones that initiate it?
NO!!! But just as the sun rises in the east, war is inevivitable (sp? I haven't had enough caffine yet), we're like moths to the flame. And I don't believe condi would make a good veep.
K-
West wants "holy war" against islam IMO. For us to initiate something like that would be a VERY BAD THING.
Just sayin....
I'd like to see Alan Keyes in the veep position, or even herman caine for that matter!
Same here for me. I only reported that Reagan HAS supported DEMOCRATS, including a certain president by the name of Franklin D. Roosevelt, one who is so deeply loved by conservatives in the USA, and that he has also changed party affiliation. Reagan was also an ACTIVE SUPPORTER of NEW DEAL policies.
How that relates to whether or not Condi would make a good VP or President, has as much bearing as the issue of whether or not Reagan would make a good President considering his DEMOCRATIC history. I voted for him both times, and we already knew his history of being a GOOD LOYAL DEMOCRAT supporting THE NEW DEAL.
IMO, it didn't matter ....... in the same way it doesn't matter for the consideration of Condi.
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This seems to be getting more attention than the Tax returns and Romney sitting as CEO three years longer then he wants everyone to believe. What I see here is more Bush cabal (VP Pick) and with everything else is not good this guy is showing he cannot be trusted and if this is pushed enough it will put Run Paul in the forefront and Obama cannot compete against Ron Paul as they complete total opposites!
Ron Paul=Liberty/Freedom and going back to a constitutional form of government.
Obama=enslavement and destruction of the country.
Also she has spoken in favor of homo-marriage. Read about it yesterday, maybe if I have time I'll find link and copy/paste.
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The real problem is that Islam has engaged in "holy war" against all non Muzzlims since 700 AD. Right now in the US Muzzlims attack others (Stoning of Christians in Dearborn), engage in "honor killings", FMG, are trying to force Sharia law and so on. Right now, right here in the US. They foment against infidels in mosques, actively convert in prisons and elsewhere. They are enemies of the freedoms we traditionally (are supposed) to enjoy under our Constitution. Look at what Muzzlims are doing in Europe, in Thailand, in Indonesia, in Pakistan, in India, in Africa - where ever they are, they wage war on those of other religions. They will never, ever stop until they are FORCED to stop.
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Democrats can still hope that either of your wishes comes true.
See http://www.ontheissues.org/Condoleezza_Rice.htm for a run down of her known pronouncements. It would appear from this she supports civil unions but not marriage.
Dobbin
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Oh, she's said that probably homo-marriage might be a good idea, I'll see if I can find the quote/link. IOW she's a liberal/leftist/statist. Romeny wants homos to adopt children and forced homo-marriage on MA via one activist judge and personally signed a bunch of homo-marriage licenses.
They're both revolting.
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