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    Obama fraud record copies now to be NONrecord copies

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    http://theobamafile.websitetoolbox.c...troyed-5835827

    Alan Jones
    is reporting that changes in the wording of Selective Service System record-keeping requirements, made days after the opening of an investigation into the alleged forgery of Barack Obama’s selective service registration form, raise serious questions about U.S. Government intentions.


    The new rules allow existing copies of documents that may be sought by investigators to be destroyed.

    The Selective Service System’s new privacy rules were published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, September 20, 2011, four days after the September 16 announcement by World Net Daily that the Maricopa County (Arizona) Sheriff’s Office "Cold Case Posse" was opening an inquiry with full subpoena power into alleged forgery of several documents concerning Obama’s birth and draft registration.

    The new rules, which constitute the first update to Selective Service System privacy regulations in eleven years, were published under the title, "Privacy Act of 1974; Publication of Notice of Systems of Records."

    Ongoing controversy surrounding allegations that some of Obama’s personal identification documents and records, including his Selective Service draft registration form, are forgeries came into sharp focus seven months ago. The "Cold Case Posse," under the leadership of Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio, opened an inquiry in response to those allegations.

    "This is a full-fledged criminal investigation," Michael Zullo, lead investigator, told Communities@WashingtonTimes.

    "Sheriff Arpaio sent two written requests in March to the Selective Service System requesting President Obama’s draft registration records. Selective Service System officials responded to Arpaio in writing, but did not turn over any of Barack Obama’s registration records."

    "We believe they are stonewalling," Zullo added. "In their latest reply letter to the Sheriff, they do not comment on, or even allude to, the microfilm being available to inspect."

    Changes in the wording of the privacy rules alters the status of federal records, like the requested draft registration records, from "record copies" to "nonrecord copies." Nonrecord copies are subject to disposal.

    Previously unnoticed, the new rules allow the government to destroy microfilm copies of Selective Service registration records and may create new obstacles for law enforcement agencies that are requesting records access for investigative purposes.


    If microfilm copies of selective service records are destroyed, it would make it difficult to prove whether or when Obama registered with the Selective Service. At issue is whether he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles as a foreign student, possibly using an Indonesian passport. Foreign students are not required to register with the Selective Service, hence if there were no record of his registration, this would raise questions about Obama’s legal status at that time. Was his status that of a U.S. citizen or a foreign student, possibly with dual passports?

    A paper copy of Obama’s selective service registration card, called a form "SSS-1," was obtained days before the 2008 elections through a FOIA request by Stephen Coffman, a retired Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent. A spokesperson from ICE, an agency of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, confirmed that Coffman retired from the agency in June, 2007

    Investigators with the Cold Case Posse concluded that the copy of Obama’s Selective Service registration card obtained through Coffman’s FOIA request was "fraudulently created." Those findings were announced at a March 1, 2012 press conference in Phoenix.

    "The selective service card (copy) that we showed in our press conference," said Zullo in an interview with radio host Frank Beckmann, "We believe that document was fraudulently created to give the appearance that it was accepted [by Selective Service] in 1980.

    "That has some far reaching implications, implications that Barack Obama himself -- at some point in time -- may have to answer for."

    Richard S. Flahavan, Selective Service System Associate Director of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs, confirmed in a March 2009 letter to Kenneth Allen that Obama did register for selective service on July 29, 1980 at a Honolulu, Hawaii post office.

    The original microfilm record of that should be in the care of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). An independent review of the entire microfilm record, not just Obama’s record, would confirm whether the record supplied by Flahavan to Coffman and Allen is a true copy of the original document.

    Review of official documents posted on the websites of the Government Printing Office, NARA, and the Selective Service System confirms that if Obama registered for selective service in 1980, the original paper card would have likely been destroyed, but only after being transferred into original microfilm records, microfilm record copies, and computer storage systems.

    If the status of those microfilm copies are now "nonrecord" rather than "record," as would be the case under the new requirement, most of those records could be permanently destroyed.

    Even if the microfilm copy at the Selective Service System Data Management Center in Illinois has been destroyed, however, the original microfilm should be held at one of the Federal Record Centers, long term record facilities operated by NARA.

    A popular film scenario has an investigator looking for a document confronted by hundreds of shelves filled with thousands of boxes full of documents. If the Cold Case Posse goes looking for Obama’s record, the change in classification might make its task akin to finding a specific piece of hay in a haystack

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    Sheriff Joe demands Obama draft registration
    Jerome Corsi is reporting that Sheriff Joe Arpaio intends to continue his investigation of Barack Obama’s eligibility. Arpaio's Cold Case Posse has pressed the director of the Selective Service System not to destroy any microfilm records that may yet exist of Obama’s 1980 draft registration form.

    In an emergency letter Wednesday to Selective Service System Director Lawrence Romo, Mike Zullo, the lead investigator in the Cold Case Posse, asked for reassurance that the microfilm records still exist.

    "We would like to be assured of the disposition of the microfilm reel or reels containing President Obama’s Selective Service registration form," Zullo wrote. "Please indicate whether or not you have possession of the microfilm reel or reels containing President Obama’s records or access to them."

    The concerns were raised after Arpaio’s office received official confirmation from the Selective Service System that Obama’s paper draft registration records have been destroyed after being microfilmed.

    In addition, an article published Monday by the Washington Times "Communities" social journalism section reported new Selective Service privacy rules might allow existing microfilm records to be destroyed as well.

    Zullo expressed concern the microfilm records of Obama’s draft registration form might already have been destroyed.

    "In the unfortunate event the microfilm reel or reels containing President Obama’s Selective Service registration form has been destroyed, can you please advise of the date the records were destroyed and the location at which they were destroyed," he asked.

    Zullo’s letter gave Romo 10 business days within receipt of the letter to respond.

    Romo, who was appointed director to the U.S. Selective Service System in 2009 by President Obama, reports directly to the president.

    Selective Service admits destruction

    On March 28, Arpaio wrote Romo a letter directly asking if the Selective Service System still retained the original paper and ink copy of Obama’s draft registration form.

    "If your office has the original, authentic Selective Service registration form for Barack Obama from July 29, 1980, please indicate whether or not you have possession of this document," Arpaio wrote. "If the document is in your possession, please make it available for inspection by my Sheriff’s Office investigators. We will travel to your facility to analyze it."

    On April 3, Richard S. Flahavan, associate director of public and intergovernmental affairs for the Selective Service System, responded to Arpaio with a letter indicating the agency had destroyed Obama’s original paper and ink draft registration form.

    "The simple response is no; it was destroyed in 1980," Flahavan wrote. "Per agency policy and practice, when a Selective Service System record is created from the registration card, the card is microfilmed and the paper card is then destroyed. This has been our policy for more than 30 years."

    Is the microfilm safe?

    In the Communities @Washington Times article, Alan Jones noted that the Selective Service System published new privacy rules in the Federal Register Sept. 20, 2011, four days after WND reported Sept. 16, 2011, that Arpaio had commissioned the Cold Case Posse to open an inquiry with full subpoena power into the alleged forgery of several Obama identity documents, including his long-form birth certificate and his Selective Service draft registration form.

    Jones article noted it was the first update to Selective Service privacy regulations in 11 years.

    The key change is that the new regulations reclassify the status of draft registration forms from "record copies" to "non-record copies," with the proviso that "non-record copies" are subject to disposal.

    The new privacy regulations further allow the Selective Service System to destroy microfilm copies of Selective Service registration forms under certain circumstances.

    Obama's draft registration page . . .

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    Look folks, at this point His Holiness could stand on the Capitol steps at high noon and shout to the heavens that he's not a US citizen, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WOULD BE DONE. You know it, I know it. The Constitution and rule of law in this country is dead. Make sure you're locked and loaded. It won't be long now methinks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    The Constitution and rule of law in this country is dead.
    Wrong, sir. Certain provisions are just about to have the dust blown off of them, tis all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    It won't be long now methinks...
    Sadly, that is exactly what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Look folks, at this point His Holiness could stand on the Capitol steps at high noon and shout to the heavens that he's not a US citizen, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WOULD BE DONE. You know it, I know it. The Constitution and rule of law in this country is dead. Make sure you're locked and loaded. It won't be long now methinks....

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_hole

    A document placed in the memory hole is supposedly transported to an incinerator from which "not even the ash remains". However, as with almost all claims made by the Party in this novel, the truth is left ambiguous and the reader is not told whether the documents are truly destroyed. For example, a photograph which Winston throws into one early in the novel is produced later during his torture session by O'Brien, who then throws it back, moments later denying having any memory that the event had even occurred. This draws a direct parallel with the Party's general philosophy of doublethink, of which the memory hole is in a sense the physical embodiment; as the novel describes it, "to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again".

    The past is an inconvenience and an obstacle to those with an AGENDA.

    In their political view humans need to be more like animals. Responding only to the immediate present need or desire of his Eminence.

    He is the Alpha Human.

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    He couldn't have pulled this off without a lot of backing, and then to be found out as a fraud and still, nothing. This is not an Obama issue, it is a national issue that needs to be held up to the light of the constitution by people who still value it. By the people who still value it, is the key here. We have people throughout this administration that do NOT value it in word and action and the lot of good men who say nothing are no better. Those good men are who I fault more than Obama and his backers. I'd like to know exactly who the backers are that have perpetuated this fraud and I hope the few good men who refuse to let this go unanswered will find success in their efforts.

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    Arpaio's not finished. He has a lot - LOT - of info that he hasn't shown yet. According to the Ulsterman interviews, many Dems are working behind the scenes to "out" 0bomba and get rid of him. The fedgov is not a monolith - I have no doubt there is dissension in the ranks of all parts of gov, not all gov employees are Evil who want to destroy the US. It is not over.
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    Zero still reminds me he is Adolph Hitler and Americans are the Jews.
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    who is actually backing Obama, what are their names?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    who is actually backing Obama, what are their names?
    If we knew that we'd know who to tar and feather tonight.

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