Sun Is Moving Slower Than Thought

[msswv123]

"Shocking" find may redraw picture of solar system's cosmic shield.

Andrew Fazekas
for National Geographic News

Published May 10, 2012

The sun is moving through the Milky Way slower than previously thought, according to new data from a NASA spacecraft.

From its orbit around Earth, the Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX) satellite measured the speeds of interstellar particles entering at the fringes of our solar system, 9 billion miles (14.5 billion kilometers) from the sun.

(Related: "'Alien' Particles Found Invading Our Solar System—A First.")

Plugging the new data into computer models, the IBEX team calculates that the sun is moving at about 52,000 miles (83,700 kilometers) an hour—about 7,000 miles (11,000 kilometers) slower than thought.

The discovery suggests that the protective boundary separating our solar system from the rest of the galaxy is missing a bow shock, a major structural component thought to control the influx of high-energy cosmic rays.


The sun is constantly sending out charged particles in all directions, forming a cocoon around the solar system called the heliosphere.

SNIP


According to McComas, some researchers believe that the cosmic rays that do get through the heliosphere can impact Earth's climate, because the high-energy particles can ionize—or electrically charge—matter in the atmosphere, leading to heightened cloud formation and lightning generation.

Other experts think the particles could even be related to bursts of evolution or extinction in our planet's history, because the radiation can influence DNA patterns.

MORE

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...space-science/


some interesting hypothesis in this article..blessings T



From the Ibex page:

Cosmic raysCharged atomic particles moving in space with very high energies (the particles travel close to the speed of light); most originate beyond the solar system, but some of low energy are produced in solar flares. can seriously damage DNA. If DNA damage cannot be repaired by the cell, the cell could die. If the damage is copied into more cells, then a mutation could occur. Exposure to large amounts of cosmic rays could increase the risks for cancer, cataracts and neurological disorders. Long term exposure to cosmic rays, or short intense bursts, could affect the evolution of life on Earth.

http://ibex.swri.edu/students/How_do_cosmic_rays.shtml



Discovered: Cosmic Rays from a Mysterious, Nearby Object

Nov. 19, 2008: An international team of researchers has discovered a puzzling surplus of high-energy electrons bombarding Earth from space. The source of these cosmic rays is unknown, but it must be close to the solar system and it could be made of dark matter. Their results are being reported in the Nov. 20th issue of the journal Nature.

"This is a big discovery," says co-author John Wefel of Louisiana State University. "It's the first time we've seen a discrete source of accelerated cosmic rays standing out from the general galactic background."

Galactic cosmic rays are subatomic particles accelerated to almost light speed by distant supernova explosions and other violent events. They swarm through the Milky Way, forming a haze of high energy particles that enter the solar system from all directions. Cosmic rays consist mostly of protons and heavier atomic nuclei with a dash of electrons and photons spicing the mix.

artist rendering at link
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...ov_cosmicrays/


Incoming Cosmic Rays Hit Record High
October 19, 2010


The Earth was pummeled with record-setting levels of cosmic rays in 2009. Measurements from NASA’s Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE) and other spacecraft found that more high-energy particles from galactic space penetrated the inner solar system in the last few years than at any other time since the beginning of the space age.
The spike is almost certainly due to several weird aspects of the most recent solar minimum, and could be the start of a new normal for cosmic ray levels.
“It’s sort of like everything’s working in the same direction right now, to allow cosmic rays greater access to the inner solar system,” said space scientist Richard Mewaldt of Caltech. Mewaldt and colleagues published their findings Oct. 7 in Astrophysical Journal Letters.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...s-record-high/

[NC Susan]

i just know that yesterday seemed to have long shadows and we are having cool weather. More along the lines of a September instead of a May..... Even the newscaster mentioned that the Cling Peaches are coming into the Raleigh Farmers (NC) Market six weeks early....

[energy_wave]

We're entering the photon belt.

[blueridge]

Uh Oh - Global Slowness will be the New Normal.

[Cabal]

I love all these revelations we get from scientists... we have only been capable of satellites since the 60's... so we're learning new data every day, every time a scientist says we've hit a record high, tell him he's an idiot... we've only been capable of measuring anything FOR a very short time... hell we could be in a galactic lull for all we know....

[MCA911_777]

This is all beginning to come together. This all makes sense now. Maybe this is what the Chemtrails are being sprayed for to allow a 'Cosmic Ray' shield.

[msswv123]

Strange cosmic ray hotspots stalk southern skies
16:42 03 May 2011 by Anil Ananthaswamy

Cosmic rays crashing into the Earth over the South Pole appear to be coming from particular locations, rather than being distributed uniformly across the sky. Similar cosmic ray "hotspots" have been seen in the northern skies too, yet we know of no source close enough to produce this pattern.

"We don't know where they are coming from," says Stefan Westerhoff of the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

Westerhoff and colleagues used the IceCube neutrino observatory at the South Pole to create the most comprehensive map to date of the arrival direction of cosmic rays in the southern skies. IceCube detects muons produced by neutrinos striking ice, but it also detects muons created by cosmic rays hitting Earth's atmosphere. These cosmic ray muons can be used to figure out the direction of the original cosmic ray particle.

Good mystery

Between May 2009 and May 2010, IceCube detected 32 billion cosmic-ray muons, with a median energy of about 20 teraelectronvolts (TeV). These muons revealed, with extremely high statistical significance, a southern sky with some regions of excess cosmic rays ("hotspots") and others with a deficit of cosmic rays ("cold" spots).

more
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ern-skies.html


eta:

this statement really caught my attention:

If DNA damage cannot be repaired by the cell, the cell could die. If the damage is copied into more cells, then a mutation could occur. Exposure to large amounts of cosmic rays could increase the risks for cancer, cataracts and neurological disorders. Long term exposure to cosmic rays, or short intense bursts, could affect the evolution of life on Earth.


because it made me think of all the people on airplanes who have seemed to exhibit sudden "neurological" symptoms or outburst.....I"ve also heard people complain of severe migraines the past couple years during periods of solar flares/storms....there's a post somewhere that I made about a year ago of going to the ER with a family member who suddenly had seizures and the doctor stating I don't know whats going on today but we are admitting people left and right to the neuro floor...family member had to be admitted as well~ ....wasn't there just a "brain fog" thread on the main?....just thinking out loud...blessings T



Science News


Cosmic rays reflect stratospheric weather

http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2009...2301233068804/

Mysterious Cosmic Rays Leave Scientists in the Dark

by Charles Q. Choi, SPACE.com Contributor
Date: 18 April 2012 Time: 01:01 PM ET



http://www.space.com/15323-cosmic-ra...-unsolved.html

[FarOut]

Whoa. If the data is correct they've missed the really big implication. The speed of the Sun in it's orbit around the center of the Milky Way galaxy is determined by its mass. For decades astronomers have been saying that the solar orbit shows that there's more mass than we can see, thus all the calculations include so-called "dark matter" as a major component of the Milky Way. But if we're moving 13% slower than we thought then there may be no such thing as "dark matter" and all the theories about the makeup of the universe have to be corrected.

[BoatGuy]

Personally, I think this report is trying to manufacture a new crisis.

If the sun is not providing enough protection from occurences outside the heliosphere, then why is cosmic radiation relatively stable (with some minor exceptions from gamma bursts and such)?

Also, I have no problem with the idea that charged particles from the sun have a great influence on cloud formation and such. Recent research seems to indicate as much. But, since our weather seems to follow that of SOLAR activity, why is this report to give extra weight to the contribution of extrasolar effects? Since the author gives no documented evidence of this effect, it is purely speculation. Worthy of investigation? Perhaps. But, since it hasn't been investigated, the author is hardly in a position to give the idea any credence.

Keep in mind that the sun hasn't slowed down (to their knowledge). It is only going slower than they thought. This is not an opportunity to create new crisis. It is further information that should help to grow understanding of current events. FWIW, since we never actually measured a "bow shock", there was no proof that it ever existed. We only "supposed" that it did. If we never did have the bow shock, and yet we have somehow survived, wouldn't that indicate that we just don't understand it, as well as we might in the future?

An analogy... This planet survived for a long time, with the effects of El Nino and La Nina. But, we didn't recognize the pattern until the 1980's or so. Suddenly, every news and weather report had something about El Nino in it. But, that doesn't change the fact that it had always been there... and we didn't notice.

JMHO

[BoatGuy]

Cosmic raysCharged atomic particles moving in space with very high energies (the particles travel close to the speed of light); most originate beyond the solar system, but some of low energy are produced in solar flares. can seriously damage DNA. If DNA damage cannot be repaired by the cell, the cell could die. If the damage is copied into more cells, then a mutation could occur. Exposure to large amounts of cosmic rays could increase the risks for cancer, cataracts and neurological disorders. Long term exposure to cosmic rays, or short intense bursts, could affect the evolution of life on Earth.

If the DNA change is not supportable, doesn't it make sense that it will die? That would presuppose that it becomes transposed into more cells.

This author is trying to stir up $#i+.

[BoatGuy]

Whoa. If the data is correct they've missed the really big implication. The speed of the Sun in it's orbit around the center of the Milky Way galaxy is determined by its mass. For decades astronomers have been saying that the solar orbit shows that there's more mass than we can see, thus all the calculations include so-called "dark matter" as a major component of the Milky Way. But if we're moving 13% slower than we thought then there may be no such thing as "dark matter" and all the theories about the makeup of the universe have to be corrected.

Very astute. I don't know if you're right. But, dark matter has been a sticking point for many physicists.

[Dobbin]

Sun came up this morning - although I didn't see the sun because it's cloudy.

And I assume it will go do tonight like it always has.

One would expect this since the Earth is the center of the universe - and everything rotates about us.

www.flatearthsociety.org
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/...itle=Main_Page

Kidding, of course. It actually rotates around Obama.

EVERYONE knows that, of course.

Dobbin

[msswv123]

If the DNA change is not supportable, doesn't it make sense that it will die? That would presuppose that it becomes transposed into more cells.

This author is trying to stir up $#i+.

That info is from the IBEX page but I think if you look you will find numerous scientist who support that theory on cosmic rays. Your quote is not from the author of the first article. Everything has dna...bacteria, plant and animal life. So mutation or death of dna isn't just speaking about humans....blessings T


Causes of cancer ~ snip

Carcinogens are factors, which cause the DNA inside a cell to become altered, or ‘mutated’. However, in order for a mutation to cause cancer, the mutation must cause the cell to do two things:

1. to grow without control
2. to become immortal, which means the cell doesn't die when it's supposed to

Carcinogens can be physical, chemical or biological.
Physical mutagens


Physical mutation of DNA can be caused by ionising radiation, ultraviolet radiation and by mineral fibres. These three mutagens act in very different ways.

1. Ionising radiation literally punches holes in the DNA, breaking the correct genetic sequence. Ionising radiation can come from directly from X-rays and solar radiation (cosmic rays) and indirectly from radon gas.
2. Ultraviolet radiation, which comes from the sun, causes mutations by causing certain portions of DNA to remain bound together (even when they shouldn’t). This causes mutations by causing misreading of the DNA.
3. Certain natural mineral fibres like asbestos, because of their size, can cause damage directly to DNA resulting in carcinogenic mutations.

http://www.cancer.ie/cancer-informat...uses-of-cancer

[BoatGuy]

That info is from the IBEX page but I think if you look you will find numerous scientist who support that theory on cosmic rays. Your quote is not from the author of the first article. Everything has dna...bacteria, plant and animal life. So mutation or death of dna isn't just speaking about humans....blessings T

Please know that I mean this in the nicest way... But, I don't put my response to an individual. I put it to the information perceived, and only try to point out where the data falters in respect to the hypothesis.That said, please don't elevate the data to that of a theory. A theory presupposes that many scientists have looked at the data and, unable to propose a better understanding, have elevated it beyond the level of a hypothesis. The progression of a hypothesis to a theory is part of peer review, which this article has not withstood, as of yet.

I know that it may seem belittling, and that is not the intent. But, there is a method to the madness. And, that is the scientific method, that we have all grown to love.

ETA: I don't believe anything in my post, was constrained to the idea that the DNA must be of human origin. But, if the idea of natural selection is to be believed, it follows that a sub-par mutation will not survive and that it must be a viable or "better" mutation, in order to do so.

I stand by my assertions, until shown to be wrong, or at least to have been mistaken in my interpretation. Then, I shall humbly eat my own words, and we shall move on. I will never support the idea that when "many" scientists support an idea it must be true. It only takes one to point out that they are completely mistaken. When science enters the realm of the "popularity contest", we will all be doomed... Global warming or climate change may well be the defining example.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that the scientists must be correct. We are all scientists. Scientists simply use their common sense, knowledge base and reason of logic, in order to discern whether an idea is correct, or not. If your common sense, knowledge base and reason of logic is on par with theirs, there is no reason that their opinion should matter more to you, than your own. These days, it is not uncommon for scientists to go beyond the bounds of reason, in order to secure publicity or funding for their pet hypothesis.

Again, JMHO.

[BoatGuy]

Carcinogens are factors, which cause the DNA inside a cell to become altered, or ‘mutated’. However, in order for a mutation to cause cancer, the mutation must cause the cell to do two things:

to grow without control
to become immortal, which means the cell doesn't die when it's supposed to

Yes, cancer grows without control. But, it is not immortal. It dies when the host dies. It is the definition of a poor parasite, one without symbiosis.

Physical mutation of DNA can be caused by ionising radiation, ultraviolet radiation and by mineral fibres. These three mutagens act in very different ways.

Ionising radiation literally punches holes in the DNA, breaking the correct genetic sequence. Ionising radiation can come from directly from X-rays and solar radiation (cosmic rays) and indirectly from radon gas.
Ultraviolet radiation, which comes from the sun, causes mutations by causing certain portions of DNA to remain bound together (even when they shouldn’t). This causes mutations by causing misreading of the DNA.
Certain natural mineral fibres like asbestos, because of their size, can cause damage directly to DNA resulting in carcinogenic mutations.

http://www.cancer.ie/cancer-informat...uses-of-cancer

I'm not quite sure where you're headed here. But, certainly ionizing radiation and physical irratation is capable of producing cellular mutations. There a quite a few sources of ionized radiation on earth, before we have to look to outer space. Wasn't the point of your post that we could experience an increased risk, from extrasolar sources? Maybe I'm just missing the point you're trying to make?

[msswv123]

Please know that I mean this in the nicest way... But, I don't put my response to an individual. I put it to the information perceived, and only try to point out where the data falters in respect to the hypothesis.That said, please don't elevate the data to that of a theory. A theory presupposes that many scientists have looked at the data and, unable to propose a better understanding, have elevated it beyond the level of a hypothesis. The progression of a hypothesis to a theory is part of peer review, which this article has not withstood, as of yet.

I know that it may seem belittling, and that is not the intent. But, there is a method to the madness. And, that is the scientific method, that we have all grown to love.

ETA: I don't believe anything in my post, was constrained to the idea that the DNA must be of human origin. But, if the idea of natural selection is to be believed, it follows that a sub-par mutation will not survive and that it must be a viable or "better" mutation, in order to do so.

I stand by my assertions, until shown to be wrong, or at least to have been mistaken in my interpretation. Then, I shall humbly eat my own words, and we shall move on. I will never support the idea that when "many" scientists support an idea it must be true. It only takes one to point out that they are completely mistaken. When science enters the realm of the "popularity contest", we will all be doomed... Global warming or climate change may well be the defining example.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that the scientists must be correct. We are all scientists. Scientists simply use their common sense, knowledge base and reason of logic, in order to discern whether an idea is correct, or not. If your common sense, knowledge base and reason of logic is on par with theirs, there is no reason that their opinion should matter more to you, than your own. These days, it is not uncommon for scientists to go beyond the bounds of reason, in order to secure publicity or funding for their pet hypothesis.

Again, JMHO.

No offense intended to you in my response either BG just stating how they defined a cosmic ray and it's effects on our planet and our bodies. Most information I have read tends to also refer to cosmic rays the same way.

I don't know the author of the first article only posted it for others to read ..and added info on the cosmic rays as corresponding information to the article..how it is discerned it is up to each of us~ and everyone can follow up and respond as they see fit...blessings T

[Satanta]

Time to start considering that underground house I've been mentally designing.

[msswv123]

Yes, cancer grows without control. But, it is not immortal. It dies when the host dies. It is the definition of a poor parasite, one without symbiosis.

I'm not quite sure where you're headed here. But, certainly ionizing radiation and physical irratation is capable of producing cellular mutations. There a quite a few sources of ionized radiation on earth, before we have to look to outer space. Wasn't the point of your post that we could experience an increased risk, from extrasolar sources? Maybe I'm just missing the point you're trying to make?

It means the cancer cell doesn't die normally until it kills the host...doesn't respond to normal signals and the cells spread. I think that they are using immortal in that context. Also, that cosmic rays are a source of ionizing radiation that can cause mutations in dna.


The Root of Cancer

Cells, which make up human tissue, form the basis of our organs. On the most basic level, cancer is the abnormal growth of some of our cells.

"Our bodies are constantly renewing themselves. What that means is that we have cells that grow and divide. Cells usually have a finite life span,” explains Len Lichtenfeld, MD, deputy chief medical officer for the American Cancer Society. “Cancer as a disease process really represents cells in our body that no longer respond to the usual growth and death signals. A cancer cell no longer responds to those signals and becomes immortal — it doesn’t die."

When that happens, the cell has "the power to spread elsewhere in the body and grow in areas where that particular type of cell would not normally grow," says Dr. Lichtenfeld.




And yes there are earth sources of ionized radiation but also space sources as well....just because there are earth sources does not mean we will not be affected by space sources IF there are more cosmic rays streaming into the earth. Numerous articles state that when the solar system enters a certain area of space cosmic rays are increased. Based on the other articles linked above those who study those things have noticed an increase from space in recent years. blessings T

[Satanta]

Yes, cancer grows without control. But, it is not immortal. It dies when the host dies. It is the definition of a poor parasite, one without symbiosis.

I've had a thought for some time cancer is simpply a brain-fart.

The brain sends a signal to say the anus that it needs a new toe or perhaps an eyeball.

The cells in that area think "WTF?!?!?! Aint no toe or eyeball makin's down here."

Brain sez 'Make it so.'

So anus gives it a shot and one ends up with anus cancer.

[Rastech]

It's ok, the Sun spotted the speed trap hiding behind the sign as it approached the built up area, in time to avoid a ticket.


Other than that, what FarOut said (a very good and pertinent observation FarOut).

[FireDance]

I've had a thought for some time cancer is simpply a brain-fart.

The brain sends a signal to say the anus that it needs a new toe or perhaps an eyeball.

The cells in that area think "WTF?!?!?! Aint no toe or eyeball makin's down here."

Brain sez 'Make it so.'

So anus gives it a shot and one ends up with anus cancer.

Your brain is so different. That's why I love you. (Not actually a bad theory on the surface.)

[MCA911_777]

Well T, it looks like some just (MIGHT) be paying attention. It's about time eh?

Ok, here ya go...

Peak of solar maximum on the way – rare type of solar storm sent a barrage of high-energy solar particles

On May 17, 2012 a moderate-sized M-class flare erupted from the Sun and sent out a barrage of high-energy solar particles that belied its initial intensity.

These particles traveled at nearly the speed of light, crossing the 93 million miles between the Sun and Earth in a mere 20 minutes and impacting our atmosphere, causing cascades of neutrons to reach the ground – a rare event known as a ground level enhancement, or GLE. Occasionally (approximately 10-15 times per decade), the Sun emits cosmic rays of sufficient energy and intensity to raise radiation levels on Earth’s surface to the degree that they are readily detected by neutron monitors. Usually scientists would expect this kind of ground level enhancement from a giant coronal mass ejection or a big X-class flare.

This was the first GLE of the current solar cycle – a sure sign that the sun’s regular 11-year cycle is ramping up toward solar maximum.

GLEs are quite rare – fewer than 100 events have been observed in the last 70 years, since instruments were first able to detect them.The largest of these events was observed on February 23, 1956 and it was an indicator that the peak of solar maximum is on the way.

May 17th GLE was recorded by a joint Russian/Italian spacecraft called PAMELA, a mission designed to detect high-energy cosmic rays streaming in from intergalactic space.

This GLE has scientists excited for another reason, too. PAMELA, short for Payload for Antimatter Matter Exploration and Light-nuclei Astrophysics, simultaneously measured the particles from the Sun that caused the GLE. Solar particles have been measured before, but PAMELA is sensitive to the very high-energy particles that reach ground level at Earth. The data may help scientists understand the details of what causes this space weather phenomenon, and help them tease out why a relatively small flare was capable of producing the high-speed particles needed to cause a GLE.
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/201...lar-particles/

[MCA911_777]

Real Time Satellite Tracking of 'PAMELA' http://www.n2yo.com/?s=29228

http://pamela.roma2.infn.it/index.ph...age&Itemid=159

Sunday 3.06.2012:
2181th day of PAMELA in orbit

The Space Mission Pamela represents a state-of-the-art of the investigation of the cosmic radiation, addressing the most compelling issues facing astrophysics and cosmology: the Resurs DK-1nature of the dark matter that pervades the universe, the apparent absence of cosmological antimatter, the origin and evolution of matter in the galaxy. Pamela Pamela, a powerful particle identifier using a permanent magnet spectrometer with a variety of specialized detectors, is an instrument of extraordinary scientific potential that is measuring with unprecedented precision and sensitivity the abundance and energy spectra of cosmic rays electrons, positrons, antiprotons and light nuclei over a very large range of energy from 50 MeV to hundreds GeV, depending on the species. These measurements, together with the complementary electromagnetic radiation observation that will be carried out by AGILE and GLAST space missions, will help to unravel the mysteries of the most energetic processes known in the Universe.

[TerryK]

Just like arrogant humans to try and blame the sun for moving slower than "we" thought.

The sun is moving as it always has. We were just too ignorant to know just how fast that was.

Just a few hundred years ago we thought the sun moved around the earth and would kill anyone who thought differently.

[msswv123]

Just like arrogant humans to try and blame the sun for moving slower than "we" thought.

The sun is moving as it always has. We were just too ignorant to know just how fast that was.

Just a few hundred years ago we thought the sun moved around the earth and would kill anyone who thought differently.

I don't think anyone is trying to blame only observing as scientist do...The sun moving as it does is the faithfulness of God...as is every breath we take..we humans are just chasing it and trying to understand it~ and usually the findings only confirm the mystery of its designer....blessings T

[msswv123]

Ground Level Enhancement Events of Solar Cycle 23
N Gopalswamy1, H Xie2, S Yashiro2 & I Usoskin3
1NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 695, Greenbelt, MD 20771, USA
2The Catholic University of America, Washington DC 20064, USA
3Sodankylä Geophysical Observatory, Oulu University, FIN-90014, Finland

Summary and Conclusions
We analysed the GLE events of cycle 23, which is the first solar cycle that has extensive CME observations for almost all the GLEs. There were only 16 GLE events in cycle 23, clearly demonstrating that these are rare events with an occurrence rate of only ~1.5 per year. The number of GLE events does not follow the solar cycle, but steadily increases from the minimum to the declining phases.

full study
http://cdaw.gsfc.nasa.gov/meetings/2...my_2008_v2.pdf