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    China warns Philippines over disputed islands

    Beijing said Thursday that its citizens were not safe in the Philippines. The government-controlled media in China also warned the country was prepared to go to war to end a stand-off over Scarborough Shoal, AFP reports. The month-long row is continuing as both countries claim small islands in the South China Sea as their territory. "The current Philippine leadership is intent on pressing us into a corner where there is no other option left but the use of arms," the China Daily said in an editorial.

    http://rt.com/news/line/2012-05-10/#id30739

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    This will be another opportunity for the president to abandon an ally.
    Earth is bootcamp for eternity.
    The Social Security number is a bigger threat to Liberty than Communism or Osama bin Laden.
    The advantage to being a pessimist is that you are often pleasantly surprised.

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    Interesting. I just finished SSN by Tom Clancy recently. Fiction becomes reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker View Post
    Interesting. I just finished SSN by Tom Clancy recently. Fiction becomes reality.
    Yup, I finished Debt of Honor before 911 happened.
    Earth is bootcamp for eternity.
    The Social Security number is a bigger threat to Liberty than Communism or Osama bin Laden.
    The advantage to being a pessimist is that you are often pleasantly surprised.

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    They have been fighting and arguing over the Spratley Islands and that area for years. There arer even video games over this scenario.

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    China deploys oil rig as weapon to assert South China Sea claims

    Via: http://www.generationaldynamics.com/...=ww2010.weblog

    China has been aggressively asserting its claim to a huge region in the South China Sea, including many islands that have historically belonged to other countries. Now the Chinese are drilling oil in disputed waters as a "strategic weapon," according to an analyst reported by the state-run Xinhua: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ea-claims.html

    "Large deep-water drilling rigs are our mobile national territory and strategic weapon for promoting the development of the country’s offshore oil industry."

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    China's media 'accidentally' claims Philippines as part of China

    He Jia, an anchor on China's state-run television network CCTV, said:

    "As we all know, the Philippines is Chinese territory. China has unquestionable sovereignty over the Philippines.

    We all know that the Philippines is China's inherent territory and the Philippines belongs to Chinese sovereignty, this is an indisputable fact."

    This gaffe is being described as an accidental slip of the tongue, but I don't think that's what happened at all. He Jia appears to be a young girl who's too dumb to find the Philippines on the map, and is just reflecting the ultra-nationalist attitudes of the younger generatioins of Chinese. Generational Dynamics predicts that there will be a Clash of Civilizations world war, led by China and the United States. Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-of-China.html

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    The countries that took a beating from the Japs in WWII still continue to have the most strick gun laws against their citizens.

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    Back in the day when the US had, you know, balls, and was respected around the world, we'd have dispatched a carrier battle group to the Philippines, and publicly told China to back off. But of course, we no longer have balls, having ceded them to the bloodless, heathen chinee....

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    China threatens Philippines with military action

    via Generational Dynamics
    http://www.generationaldynamics.com/...120511#e120511

    Xinhua http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/ch..._131578027.htm


    South China Sea, with blue line added to show region claimed by China as part of its sovereign territory


    A commentary in China's state-run media titled "Never test China's will to defend its own sovereignty" expresses contempt for Philippine people and leaders, and accuses them of "severely infringing China's sovereignty." The commentary comes out of a confrontation over an island (the Scarborough Shoal, or Huangyan Island) off the coast of Manila, and far from Chinese territory, that China is claiming as its sovereign territory. China is demanding control of vast regions of the South China Sea, including areas historically belonging to Brunei, the Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan, and Vietnam, as well as to territories in central Asia, in a land grab reminiscent of Hitler's demand for "Lebensraum." In 2011, China appeared to be softening its rhetoric, calling for bilateral negotiations, but the latest incident has so infuriated the Chinese nationalists that the rhetoric has become extremely threatening. In the commentary, the Chinese use the code phrase "core interest" in the paragraph:

    "China always adheres to friendly relationships with its neighbors. But territorial sovereignty is a core interest for China and there is no room for bargaining. Is there any country in the world that has not drawn clear lines to protect its territorial integrity?

    China has made every preparation to respond if the Philippines government clings obstinately to its wrong course."

    I suppose that whoever wrote that paragraph is too stupid to understand that it makes the case for the Philippines, since the Philippines have the right to protect their own territorial integrity. At any rate, the phrase "core interest" is used by the Chinese with Taiwan and other issues over which the country is willing to go to war.

    China is now making it clear that it will use its vast military power to take control of other people's territory, if the country owning the territory does not back down. China is doing the same with countries like Taiwan, Japan and India, all of which have mutual defense treaties with the United States.

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    After reading a few of these posts one thing comes to mind; is the US getting baited into a conflict (large or small)? Or will it be a test to see if we will bite that hand that feeds our financial dog?

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    Am emerging power, needs a war or conflict, inorder to preface their status militarily. The US did this with Spain, now China will do this with the Phillipines. The US, instead of standing by an ally, and possibly regaining our old bases there, will try to mediate, and lose. This isn't about the oil, this is about an admission that the US is over. China will have banks in the US now, and they will control the South China Sea which is our avenue of access to parts of the middle east.
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