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UNEX Unexplained Noises Shake Clintonville, WI - Louder and Stronger Than Before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckster View Post
    If it is the sun heating the planets up, then why are the outer planets heating up more than the inner ones? ie. Pluto is heating up, while travelling away from the sun.
    Because we are the only one with a fully "working" atmosphere. Every other planet either has a partial "working" atmosphere (meaning that it does not have a hydrological cycle, but it might have some gasses to make up a simple "atmosphere"), or not much of anything. On those planets, the sunlight and other non-visible energy hits the planet and warms it up. The difference is that those planet's atmospheres are MUCH closer to a vacuum. That vacuum or partial vacuum does the exact same thing that a vacuum insulated container ("Thermos") does for your food or drinks, or a better example, what a vacuum collector tube solar collector does. It takes heat in, and does not let it back out too well.

    Our Earth takes that energy in, and uses it to do things, like make rain, wind, or seismic events. The energy gets used up rather than stick around as heat.

    I would be willing to bet that the number of moonquakes, and other stellar object seismic events has also risen. I know that I have seen at least two recent INSANELY large sunquakes in the last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreally View Post
    Double whoa!.

    A week or so ago, all the water in my small town, (near Clintonville) went bad. The town sent a crew out to mark all the water mains and last week the marked all them all with pastel ribbons.
    Did they define "went bad" any more than "went bad"? Any odd tastes? Bubbles in the line? Pressure drops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoupGarou View Post
    Did they define "went bad" any more than "went bad"? Any odd tastes? Bubbles in the line? Pressure drops?

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    All the water in town ran with this hazy reddish mud for two days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreally View Post
    All the water in town ran with this hazy reddish mud for two days.
    Our water where I lived in Bama was from a well and the water was iron water. We had to wash all our clothes 25 miles away in Jasper. AND haul in all our drinking/cooking water. Was the smell of yall's water irony?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoupGarou View Post
    Because we are the only one with a fully "working" atmosphere. Every other planet either has a partial "working" atmosphere (meaning that it does not have a hydrological cycle, but it might have some gasses to make up a simple "atmosphere"), or not much of anything. On those planets, the sunlight and other non-visible energy hits the planet and warms it up. The difference is that those planet's atmospheres are MUCH closer to a vacuum. That vacuum or partial vacuum does the exact same thing that a vacuum insulated container ("Thermos") does for your food or drinks, or a better example, what a vacuum collector tube solar collector does. It takes heat in, and does not let it back out too well.

    Our Earth takes that energy in, and uses it to do things, like make rain, wind, or seismic events. The energy gets used up rather than stick around as heat.

    I would be willing to bet that the number of moonquakes, and other stellar object seismic events has also risen. I know that I have seen at least two recent INSANELY large sunquakes in the last year.

    Loup
    I have never heard this explanation for the phenomenon before. So I will keep this in mind, but I do have doubts about it, since I have never heard this before.

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    I didn't realize lake Superior was an ancient caldera. Maybe we should be watching that fish hook lake area a little more closely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckster View Post
    I have never heard this explanation for the phenomenon before. So I will keep this in mind, but I do have doubts about it, since I have never heard this before.
    If you want to prove how it works, go scan the net for the following two temperatures:
    • The surface temp of an astronaut's suit outside of the spacecraft (EVA) in the sun.
    • The surface temp of an astronaut's suit outside of the spacecraft (EVA) in the shade of the Earth.

    I will give you a hint, even with a VERY white suit. the temperature difference is above 400 degrees. Add in any coloring, and the delta goes exponential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoupGarou View Post
    Because we are the only one with a fully "working" atmosphere. Every other planet either has a partial "working" atmosphere (meaning that it does not have a hydrological cycle, but it might have some gasses to make up a simple "atmosphere"), or not much of anything. On those planets, the sunlight and other non-visible energy hits the planet and warms it up. The difference is that those planet's atmospheres are MUCH closer to a vacuum. That vacuum or partial vacuum does the exact same thing that a vacuum insulated container ("Thermos") does for your food or drinks, or a better example, what a vacuum collector tube solar collector does. It takes heat in, and does not let it back out too well.

    Our Earth takes that energy in, and uses it to do things, like make rain, wind, or seismic events. The energy gets used up rather than stick around as heat.

    I would be willing to bet that the number of moonquakes, and other stellar object seismic events has also risen. I know that I have seen at least two recent INSANELY large sunquakes in the last year.

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    Our atmosphere is one of the BIGGEST reasons that we are still alive here on Earth. Without it acting as a flywheel or a big thermal capacitor (thermal inertia), we would see some NASTY temperature swings on Earth. The moon, which, on average, is close to the same distance from the sun, as we are, has next to no atmosphere, and NO hydrological cycle that I know of drops as low as 25 Kelvin in the Hermite crater (25 degrees above absolute zero, or if you want to see the other scales, -415 Fahrenheit, −248 Celsius). Probably a bit colder than most people's best sweaters or coats will handle nicely. Likewise, near the equator, and in full sun, you can be guaranteed that a SILVER or WHITE mass will hit somewhere between 380K and 400K (224F and 260F, 107C and 127C).

    Now look at the temperature swings on Jupiter's moon, "io"...
    ETA: (And I will give you a hint as to why it's so much higher, there are two things causing the heat, and a good "blanket" holding it in. We also have those same two things heating us up. (Think E-field and H-field emissions from the sun)). Now ponder what would happen if only one of those fields reversed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckster View Post
    IIRC
    Atoms and molecules etc, don't change state unless acted upon by an external force or influence (hot, cold, electro-chemical etc).
    Something is exciting the outer planets or electrons (as in your example), that must be external to this solar system or atom, since this force or influence is not affecting the inner planets or electrons as much YET.

    When molecules react with one another, the outer electrons are the first ones to be affected. Our Solar system could be represented as an atom or molecule as per your example, being influenced by an external force, thereby heating and affecting the outer planets or electrons first or MORE than the inner ones.

    Therefore, the question remains, what is the force that is acting upon the outer planets ( the electrons in the atom in your example)?

    I have actually said the same thing twice here, but that's ok.

    I am not a scientist of any stripe, but it seems to me that the sun has had lots of hyper-activity in the past (within the last few decades of our close observations and possibly further back) without the hyperactivity in the earths' reponses (relatively rapid and drastic global weather changes) that we are seeing in recent years.

    I do not believe the hypothesis that the Sun is heating and affecting the outer planets more than the inner planets and therefore, negating any reality of an extra-solar system influence in explaining these affects.

    This might appear like thread drift, but it is or could be crucial to understanding what is happening in WI., and to the planets tectonic plate movement in recent and FUTURE times. If the outer planets ARE being affected by an external force or influence, then it seems reasonable to expect some influence on earth as well. The sun may NOT be the ONLY force influenceing earth changes.

    PW. Rereading your post I see that you were not specifically saying the sun was causing the outer planet changes, but I will leave my post stand anyway. Interesting how some shaking in Wisconsin could lead to talking about the outer planets of the solar system and what is influencing them, and possibly, the earth, and possibly the shaking in WI. Got kind of carried away with this. oh well.
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    Wisconsin's 'baffling' booms: A concise guide

    posted on March 23, 2012, at 3:31 PM

    Scientists believe tiny earthquakes are the likeliest explanation for the state's new noise-pollution phenomenon, but competing theories abound

    It was a sleepless week for the 4,600 residents of Clintonville, Wis. In an unsettling twist on things going bump in the night, the city has endured since Sunday a series of loud booms whose source is as maddeningly elusive as a phantom itch. The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) claims that a recent "swarm" of low-grade earthquakes might be the culprit, but even USGS geophysicist Paul Caruso says he's "skeptical" that such small temblors could yield this kind of noise. Here, a guide to Clintonville's "baffling" booms:

    What do they sound like?

    Some locals have likened the noise to thunderclaps. "I thought one of my trees fell onto the house," resident Al Miller tells the AP.

    How many booms have there been?

    A series of five booms hit the town Sunday night, and more were reported on Monday and Wednesday. "There's no warning, it's just 'bam,'" city administrator Lisa Kuss tells the Associated Press. Residents say the eerie noises, which seem to come from underground, are accompanied by tremors that shake windows and floors.

    How have Wisconsinites responded?

    First with puzzlement, then with increasing annoyance. Some even packed up their things and left. "Our dog is scared, our neighbors are leaving and stuff, so we decided we are going somewhere else for a while," Dennis Padia tells ABC News. "It's that loud, and it bothers you. You can't go to sleep."

    If not earthquakes, what's causing the booms?

    Local authorities quickly ruled out drilling activity, clandestine military experiments, and erupting sewer and gas lines. One possible culprit is the warm winter, which could have caused water to leak out of cracks in the granite that undergirds the area, Steve Dutch, a geologist, tells the AP. The newly waterless gaps could cause the granite to shift noisily. The residents have their own theories, from hydraulic fracturing (or fracking) to exploding meth labs. "And the aliens, of course, there's always aliens," says resident Jordan Pfeiler.

    Has anything like this ever been heard of before?

    Yes. Similarly mysterious booms have recently been reported in California and New York. And it's not just a new phenomenon. A rich lore surrounds such noises, says Whet Moser at Chicago Magazine. Through the centuries, observers have named them brontides, mistpouffers, Seneca Guns, and gouffres. As the writer James Fenimore Cooper recounted in his 1851 story The Lake Gun: "It is a sound resembling the explosion of a heavy piece of artillery, that can be accounted for by none of the known laws of nature."

    What about the earthquake theory?

    The scientists with the USGS say it's possible that earthquakes could make a booming sound. Caruso says they can "generate seismic energy that moves through rock at thousands of miles per hour, producing a sonic boom when the waves come to the surface." But, with many questions still unanswered, the mystery will likely continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Baron View Post

    Has anything like this ever been heard of before?

    Yes. Similarly mysterious booms have recently been reported in California and New York. And it's not just a new phenomenon. A rich lore surrounds such noises, says Whet Moser at Chicago Magazine. Through the centuries, observers have named them brontides, mistpouffers, Seneca Guns, and gouffres. As the writer James Fenimore Cooper recounted in his 1851 story The Lake Gun: "It is a sound resembling the explosion of a heavy piece of artillery, that can be accounted for by none of the known laws of nature."

    What about the earthquake theory?

    The scientists with the USGS say it's possible that earthquakes could make a booming sound. Caruso says they can "generate seismic energy that moves through rock at thousands of miles per hour, producing a sonic boom when the waves come to the surface." But, with many questions still unanswered, the mystery will likely continue.

    http://theweek.com/article/index/226...-concise-guide
    artillery sounds is what was heard months before the NMSZ let loose... just saying.

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    Not EVERYBODY is buying the MSM explanation:

    Residents Skeptical of ‘Mini-Quakes’ Explanation For Clintonville Booms

    USGS says 1.5 earthquake hit town on Tuesday, but reports of booms came in over 24 hours beforehand

    City officials claim the mystery of the Clintonville booms is solved with the US Geological Survey’s announcement that the town experienced a series of mini-earthquakes, but residents remain skeptical and probably with good reason – the 1.5 magnitude earthquake occurred over 24 hours after reports of the booms first started to flood in, noises which were also heard in a town 80 miles away.

    Rest of article available on Infowars website. URL below.

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    This URL is to a video of someone investigating the sounds in Wisconsin. I in NO way endorse any of Shiela's alien stuff, as I personally believe "space aliens" to be demons playing around with us. JMHO. Otherwise I found this particular report quite interesting on the subject of the Wisconsin noises along with sewer smells and foreign substances in the sewers in Fon du Lac which is 70 South of Clintonville.

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    Wonder if this is related? Hundreds of dead fish on Lake Winnebago (WI) 3/17/2012 HD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Signwatcher View Post
    Wonder if this is related? Hundreds of dead fish on Lake Winnebago (WI) 3/17/2012 HD

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8oZCfcjlTo
    Whoa! How close is that to the area of these booms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    Whoa! How close is that to the area of these booms?
    40 to 50 miles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    Whoa! How close is that to the area of these booms?

    Osh Kosh (where they said they saw the dead fish) is probably around 40 miles from Clintonville, but Lake Winnebago is closer than that.

    Go to mapquest or google maps or something; the big lake running from just South of Appleton to Fond du Lac, just West of Lake Michigan is Lake Winnebego.

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    People if you do NOT believe me then go do a search on the 1811/1812 NMSZ quakes and see what the peeps had to say about what was going on as early as July of 1811 before the first big quake occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    Whoa! How close is that to the area of these booms?
    about 48 miles or less

    used oshkosh as a starting point.
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    We've been having increasinglly frequent and often disturbingly loud 'booms' here in So. New Mexico. Many shook the
    house as a small quake would.

    It's taken the military many many months - of denials - but now they're beginning to "fess up" to causing the racket.


    Fine with most here - but kinda pi$$y that it takes so long for the truth to be known.

    Suspect that few believed the military denials in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueridge View Post
    We've been having increasinglly frequent and often disturbingly loud 'booms' here in So. New Mexico. Many shook the
    house as a small quake would.

    It's taken the military many many months - of denials - but now they're beginning to "fess up" to causing the racket.


    Fine with most here - but kinda pi$$y that it takes so long for the truth to be known.

    Suspect that few believed the military denials in the first place.
    What exactly did they "fess up" to have been doing to cause all the noise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by packyderms_wife View Post
    People if you do NOT believe me then go do a search on the 1811/1812 NMSZ quakes and see what the peeps had to say about what was going on as early as July of 1811 before the first big quake occurred.

    K-

    I believe you but I can't find preliminary stuff about the NM quake. I even copied your quote in where to look but all that would come up is what happened right before (like dec.) and right after.

    If you have a link it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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    Mystery of strange sounds appears to be called
    Updated: Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 6:15 PM CDT
    Published : Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 1:09 PM CDT

    Kelly Schlicht, FOX 11 News
    CLINTONVILLE -

    Despite receiving an explanation for recent shakes and booms, some Clintonville residents are watching and waiting to see what happens next.

    The Waupaca County city has been rocked by mysterious sounds for much of the week. The U.S. Geological Survey announced Thursday a 1.5 magnitude earthquake hit early Tuesday morning.

    Geological experts say loud booming noises can accompany earthquakes. The City Administrator says the public is safe. Officials will meet with the DNR to check on water and sewer systems. WE Energies checked for a fourth time, and did not find any gas leaks.

    Still, some in Clintonville are seeking extra protection for the future.

    "I felt it at my home one night. It was like, 'whoa!' You've never had that experience before," said State Farm Insurance agent Dale Mahlik.

    The phenomenon of a small earthquake hitting Clintonville has taken even insurance agents, the guys who prepare for the worst, by surprise.

    “Not living in Wisconsin, it's the furthest thing from our mind,” he said about being up on earthquake policies. “That's what makes it so concerning to people because we've never experienced it before."

    Insurance agents say earthquake coverage generally doesn't come standard on most home insurance policies in this area. But now many of the residents in Clintonville are seeking it out.

    "Typically we've never had quakes in the area, so people haven't had it," said Mahlik.

    Mahlik says he had to brush up on how much coverage costs. He says it's around $25 to $40 a year for the average house, and can be removed at any time.

    “It gives people peace of mind," said Mahlik.

    The U.S. Geological Survey says the last recorded earthquake centered in Wisconsin happened south of Milwaukee in 1947. It caused minor damage. No size data was recorded.

    As Clintonville comes to grips with its own earthquake, Administrator Lisa Kuss says the city has returned the geological equipment in rented to find the source of the shaking.

    “On Monday, we'll see what happens over the weekend and evaluate whether there's any value to us bringing in those monitory devices,” said Kuss.

    Officials and neighbors in Clintonville say they'll be on guard in case something does happen again.

    For now, however, they're beginning to take a bit of pride and ownership in the 1.5 magnitude quake.

    "It's a very small earthquake,” said Mahlik, with a laugh. “But it's our earthquake."

    Kuss says people should continue to call in any reports of rumblings this weekend. She also says safety information will soon be posted on the city's website.

    •Click here for an interactive map of reports so far
    Anyone who hears strange noises is asked to call police at (715) 823-3117.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansa44 View Post
    I believe you but I can't find preliminary stuff about the NM quake. I even copied your quote in where to look but all that would come up is what happened right before (like dec.) and right after.

    If you have a link it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
    I think that this is what they were referring to Hansa...

    http://www.showme.net/~fkeller/quake/lib/enigma.htm

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    Thank you NBC. This article had some things worth posting here..... I can't help but wonder how many of these things were happening prior to that huge quake, but no one bothered to keep track due the few who actually lived there but there are some major similarities.................


    The New Madrid Earthquakes of 1811-12

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    Strange Happenings

    The New Madrid earthquakes were the biggest earthquakes in American history. They occurred in the central Mississippi Valley, but were felt as far away as New York City, Boston, Montreal, and Washington D. C. President James Madison and his wife Dolly felt them in the White House. Church bells rang in Boston. From December 16, 1811 through March of 1812 there were over 2,000 earthquakes in the central Midwest, and between 6,000-10,000 earthquakes in the Bootheel of Missouri where New Madrid is located near the junction of the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers.

    In the known history of the world, no other earthquakes have lasted so long or produced so much evidence of damage as the New Madrid earthquakes. Three of the earthquakes are on the list of America’s top earthquakes: the first one on December 16, 1811, a magnitude of 8.1 on the Richter scale; the second on January 23, 1812, at 7.8; and the third on February 7, 1812, at as much as 8.8 magnitude.
    The Mississippi Ran Backwards
    After the February 7th earthquake, boatmen reported that the Mississippi actually ran backwards for several hours. The force of the land upheaval 15 miles south of New Madrid created Reelfoot lake, drowned the inhabitants of an Indian village; turned the river against itself to flow backwards; devastated thousands of acres of virgin forest; and created two temporary waterfalls in the Mississippi. Boatmen on flatboats actually survived this experience and lived to tell the tale.

    Getting Over Cracks
    As the general area experienced more than 2,000 earthquakes in five months, people discovered that most of crevices opening up during an earthquake ran from north to south, and when the earth began moving, they would chop down trees in an east- west direction and hold on using the tree as a bridge. There were “missing people” who were most likely swallowed up by the earth. Some earthquake fissures were as long as five miles.

    Earthquake Phenonema
    Sand Boils
    The world’s largest sand boil was created by the New Madrid earthquake. It is 1.4 miles long and 136 acres in extent, located in the Bootheel of Missouri, about 8 miles west of Hayti, Missouri. Locals call it “The Beach.” Other, much smaller, sand boils are found throughout the area.

    Seismic Tar Balls
    Small pellets up to golf ball sized tar balls are found in sand boils and fissures. They are petroleum that has been solidified, or “petroliferous nodules.”

    Earthquake Lights
    Lights flashed from the ground, caused by quartz crystals being squeezed. The phenomena is called “seismoluminescence.”

    Warm Water
    Water thrown up by an earthquake was lukewarm. It is speculated that the shaking caused the water to heat up and/or quartz light heated the water.

    Earthquake Smog
    The skies turned dark during the earthquakes, so dark that lighted lamps didn’t help. The air smelled bad, and it was hard to breathe. It is speculated that it was smog containing dust particles caused by the eruption of warm water into cold air.

    Loud Thunder
    Sounds of distant thunder and loud explosions accompanied the earthquakes.


    Animal Warnings
    People reported strange behavior by animals before the earthquakes. They were nervous and excited. Domestic animals became wild, and wild animals became tame. Snakes came out of the ground from hibernation. Flocks of ducks and geese landed near people.

    Tecumseh’s Comet and the Battle of Tippecanoe
    The earthquakes were preceded by the appearance of a great comet, which was visible around the globe for seventeen months, and was at its brightest during the earthquakes. The comet, with an orbit of 3,065 years, was last seen during the time of Ramses II in Egypt. In 1811-1812, it was called “Tecumseh’s Comet” (or “Napoleon’s Comet” in Europe).


    Tecumseh was a Shawnee Indian leader whose name meant “Shooting Star” or “He who walks across the sky.” He was given this name at birth. A great orator and military leader, Tecumseh organized a confederation of Indian tribes to oppose the takeover of 3 million acres of Indian lands, which were obtained by the Treaty of Fort Wayne in 1809. His brother, a religious leader called “The Prophet,” had gained fame when he foretold the total eclipse of the sun on June 16, 1806. (They had learned about it in advance from a team of visiting astronomers.) During this time, the Governor of Indiana Territory William Henry Harrison--worried about The Prophet’s popularity--had challenged him to produce a miracle. After the day of the “Black Sun” the brothers had no trouble attracting followers. A Black Sun was said to predict a future war. On September 17, 1811 there was another solar eclipse—which, again, was predicted by The Prophet. The brothers’ center of operations was at Prophet’s Town, located near the junction of the Wabash and Tippecanoe Rivers in northern Indiana. Tecumseh was traveling and recruiting warriors among the southeastern tribes, when Governor Harrison attacked Prophet’s Town with over a 1,000 men on November 6, 1811, a pre-emptive strike by the U. S., which marked the beginning of “Tecumseh’s War.” On December 16th, when the earthquakes began, Tecumseh was at the Shawnee and Delaware Indian villages near Cape Girardeau, 50 miles north of the epicenter at New Madrid. The earthquakes continued as he traveled back to Prophet’s Town, arriving there in February, 1812. Tecumseh’s followers lost the Battle of Tippecanoe, but they continued to fight as allies of the British during the War of 1812 between the United States and Great Britain. Tecumseh was killed in battle in Canada in 1813. He is honored as one of the greatest of Indian leaders, both in the United States, and in Canada, where he is considered a national
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    booms and sounds of thunder have often been heard preceding, during, and after earth movements. Velikovsky quotes Roman annuals that spoke of an entire year of the earth groaning, terrorizing Italians. I don't know what the inhabitants are expecting wanting more protection. The only protection would be to leave. Anyway, no evidence at all to worry about another New Madrid over localized earth groaning.


    This would be neat. After all the comets we've had come through over the last 16 or so years, NOTHING approaches some of the great harbingers of ancient yore:

    The earthquakes were preceded by the appearance of a great comet, which was visible around the globe for seventeen months
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonslayer2001 View Post
    booms and sounds of thunder have often been heard preceding, during, and after earth movements. Velikovsky quotes Roman annuals that spoke of an entire year of the earth groaning, terrorizing Italians. I don't know what the inhabitants are expecting wanting more protection. The only protection would be to leave. Anyway, no evidence at all to worry about another New Madrid over localized earth groaning.


    This would be neat. After all the comets we've had come through over the last 16 or so years, NOTHING approaches some of the great harbingers of ancient yore:

    The earthquakes were preceded by the appearance of a great comet, which was visible around the globe for seventeen months
    Well said. Keep up the good work.

    And yet, people either don't know history, don't remember history, or don't care to think about history. We are seeing several "reminders" that bad things could be coming to a theater near all of us, and yet, only a very small percentage of the population care about these "hints", and even a smaller percentage are getting things ready for what may very well happen rather soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansa44 View Post
    I believe you but I can't find preliminary stuff about the NM quake. I even copied your quote in where to look but all that would come up is what happened right before (like dec.) and right after.

    If you have a link it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
    I lost my links when I did the platform switch last month, I thought I had backed them uip but apparently had not. There are several published books and diaries available for reading on the internet, the booming noises were in newspapers because locals thought that the army was doing artillery drills. I don't have time to find it today, the sun is out and the yard needs tending to if I'm going to get a garden planted this spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansa44 View Post
    Thank you NBC. This article had some things worth posting here..... I can't help but wonder how many of these things were happening prior to that huge quake, but no one bothered to keep track due the few who actually lived there but there are some major similarities.................


    The New Madrid Earthquakes of 1811-12

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    Strange Happenings

    The New Madrid earthquakes were the biggest earthquakes in American history. They occurred in the central Mississippi Valley, but were felt as far away as New York City, Boston, Montreal, and Washington D. C. President James Madison and his wife Dolly felt them in the White House. Church bells rang in Boston. From December 16, 1811 through March of 1812 there were over 2,000 earthquakes in the central Midwest, and between 6,000-10,000 earthquakes in the Bootheel of Missouri where New Madrid is located near the junction of the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers.

    In the known history of the world, no other earthquakes have lasted so long or produced so much evidence of damage as the New Madrid earthquakes. Three of the earthquakes are on the list of America’s top earthquakes: the first one on December 16, 1811, a magnitude of 8.1 on the Richter scale; the second on January 23, 1812, at 7.8; and the third on February 7, 1812, at as much as 8.8 magnitude.
    The Mississippi Ran Backwards
    After the February 7th earthquake, boatmen reported that the Mississippi actually ran backwards for several hours. The force of the land upheaval 15 miles south of New Madrid created Reelfoot lake, drowned the inhabitants of an Indian village; turned the river against itself to flow backwards; devastated thousands of acres of virgin forest; and created two temporary waterfalls in the Mississippi. Boatmen on flatboats actually survived this experience and lived to tell the tale.

    Getting Over Cracks
    As the general area experienced more than 2,000 earthquakes in five months, people discovered that most of crevices opening up during an earthquake ran from north to south, and when the earth began moving, they would chop down trees in an east- west direction and hold on using the tree as a bridge. There were “missing people” who were most likely swallowed up by the earth. Some earthquake fissures were as long as five miles.

    Earthquake Phenonema
    Sand Boils
    The world’s largest sand boil was created by the New Madrid earthquake. It is 1.4 miles long and 136 acres in extent, located in the Bootheel of Missouri, about 8 miles west of Hayti, Missouri. Locals call it “The Beach.” Other, much smaller, sand boils are found throughout the area.

    Seismic Tar Balls
    Small pellets up to golf ball sized tar balls are found in sand boils and fissures. They are petroleum that has been solidified, or “petroliferous nodules.”

    Earthquake Lights
    Lights flashed from the ground, caused by quartz crystals being squeezed. The phenomena is called “seismoluminescence.”

    Warm Water
    Water thrown up by an earthquake was lukewarm. It is speculated that the shaking caused the water to heat up and/or quartz light heated the water.

    Earthquake Smog
    The skies turned dark during the earthquakes, so dark that lighted lamps didn’t help. The air smelled bad, and it was hard to breathe. It is speculated that it was smog containing dust particles caused by the eruption of warm water into cold air.

    Loud Thunder
    Sounds of distant thunder and loud explosions accompanied the earthquakes.


    Animal Warnings
    People reported strange behavior by animals before the earthquakes. They were nervous and excited. Domestic animals became wild, and wild animals became tame. Snakes came out of the ground from hibernation. Flocks of ducks and geese landed near people.

    Tecumseh’s Comet and the Battle of Tippecanoe
    The earthquakes were preceded by the appearance of a great comet, which was visible around the globe for seventeen months, and was at its brightest during the earthquakes. The comet, with an orbit of 3,065 years, was last seen during the time of Ramses II in Egypt. In 1811-1812, it was called “Tecumseh’s Comet” (or “Napoleon’s Comet” in Europe).


    thank you for posting this!!!

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    Hansa44, thanks for the post. I had no idea it was a four month event. People really need to take note of what their surrounding are telling them. I think its on its way and it will be a real disaster. Though I live in the Rockies I have lots of family in Wisconsin & Michigian and not a word from them. Don't think they believe it can happen. I have to tell you if that bad dog cracks like it did in 1811-1812 all bets are off and you are on your own.

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    We've definitely got something big coming. My money is on at least the New Madrid, but maybe other faults as well. We could have several go off at the same time, and don't forget about Yellowstone.

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    O.k., so I got off my ass and drove over to a fishing spot on the Wolf River (which flows about 4 miles outside of town) about 10 miles north of Clintonville (20 miles from me), and I was glad I did!

    After I took these pictures, I spoke to a local fisherman who was hanging out and asked him if the river was abnormally high for this time of the year. He told me that it was as high ever gets, except for periods when there is either a big storm or lots and lots of melt from the winter snows. He mentioned that a small power dam (which I have visited) about 10 miles upriver from this spot had had to open one of it's flood gates to let out the large amount of excess water that had filled the dam behind it.

    Now this is weird, since we have had a pretty dry winter this year (it only snowed worth a mention maybe two times), so he couldn't imagine where the excess water was coming from, except from a vague, "somewhere upriver where they musta have had lots more snow".

    Only the entire state has been pretty dry this winter, up to the source of the river.

    Curious.







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    The Great New Madrid Earthquake was a very singular event not equaled by any other seismic event in recorded human history. Even to this day traditional science has difficulty accepting and grasping what transpired before, during and after the great upheaval.

    Bizarre effects like earthquake weather, earthquake lights, strange booms, piezoelectric phenomenon, etc. are still treated as folklore by many mainstream scientists but do appear in numerous accounts dedicated to the event.

    The New Madrid Earthquake was actually a series of four or more 7.0 – 8.0 earthquakes spread out over months. Some will even say there may be evidence that at least one quake approached a 9.0 magnitude.

    The only other event that has so transcended modern scientific dogma is the Tri-State Tornado of 1925. Again, an example of an event that to this day that totally challenges the “conventional wisdom” regarding extreme natural disasters.

    I do not think Clintonville is going to be swallowed into the bowels of the earth but I do see the USGS making a very belated and a very half-hearted attempt to join the party.

    The frequency, duration and intensity of the shaking and booming at Clintonville does not jibe at all well with the USGS account of a single M 1.5 earthquake which was produced almost as an afterthought by the agency.
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    Thank you for the pictures, Oreally. How high is the level compared to a normal dry winter?

    I found this website. I'm not sure what I'm looking at, but the temperature chart caught my eye. Is it normal for the water to show a sharp rise in temp over a few days?

    http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?04079000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreally View Post
    O.k., so I got off my ass and drove over to a fishing spot on the Wolf River (which flows about 4 miles outside of town) about 10 miles north of Clintonville (20 miles from me), and I was glad I did!

    After I took these pictures, I spoke to a local fisherman who was hanging out and asked him if the river was abnormally high for this time of the year. He told me that it was as high ever gets, except for periods when there is either a big storm or lots and lots of melt from the winter snows. He mentioned that a small power dam (which I have visited) about 10 miles upriver from this spot had had to open one of it's flood gates to let out the large amount of excess water that had filled the dam behind it.

    Now this is weird, since we have had a pretty dry winter this year (it only snowed worth a mention maybe two times), so he couldn't imagine where the excess water was coming from, except from a vague, "somewhere upriver where they musta have had lots more snow".

    Only the entire state has been pretty dry this winter, up to the source of the river.

    Curious.







    Thank you for doing that. Been a dry one up here and am wondering where the water is comming from too.

    I spoke to my father last night and he said the Missisippi is up about 4 feet over the last couple days. Clueless he is but is excited to get his bass boat out... (he lives on the muddy miss)

    BTW... he lives in Clinton IA
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    I have many fond memories of fishing in the Wolf River as a child. Thank you for posting the pics, I miss Wis. Good luck and hope no quakes do hit.
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    samsmom, that is a big jump, but there are a lot of factors that go into how much and how quickly it will rise.


    this whole region has not had what most would call "normal" snowfall, or temps this winter. everything has heated up up here very early. since there has not been a lot of snow, the melting snowpack that would be normally cooling the river isn't there. more sunshine and less clouds can be a factor. these ajust a few things that can have an impact. while it could be from something underground, it could also be from many other things having nothing to do with that. i would still be keeping an eye on it none the less
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