The answer to all your weather/earthquake etc.related questions

[Buckster]

I found this YouTube of a NASA panel discussion where caller asks them about Niburu and they almost acknowledge it, imo. It just seemed like she was hiding something. Watch it.

The call is at about 3:25.

[gdpetti]

Yes, watch the words... .not a planet X, or HMO 'coming to get us'.... as the orbit isn't supposed to get too close, rather like Pluto's from esoterica.... a brown dwarf as see refers to.... but she does mention in answering the question that they are looking for 'other' bodies that might be approaching from the outer solar system... aka not PlanetX but the regular comet cluster that comes every 3600 years in our history... ie, in Biblical terms the part about all those plagues in Egypt etc.... comet cluster said to arrive in '14 following this 'brown companion star' of ours which is said to be the causative agent for the extinction level event approx. every 28 million years. It originally created this cluster as it punched through the Oort Cloud long long ago, and has refurbished it once again as it makes its regular circuit through our galaxy... with our solar system orbiting it...along with all the planets of course as we orbit the sun.

So, she is right, our companion brown brown dwarf might scare us, but not be the biggest problem, but rather what follows it.
And this seems to be one of the main current causative agents for the large EQs etc which some are following using EU theory and seeing this pattern out there... pointing to March 22 for another big one... highest probability in South Pacific, some are saying such as this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJiLK...eature=related
There's a handful following this pattern now, he's not the only one. We shall see on Thursday if they have the timing down as this dark star approaches... but as the comet cluster and 'wave' follows, it will affect this timing issue as well.

[Buckster]

gdpetti.

I wonder if you actually watched the video of the OP. It is long and hard to understand due to poor quality sound. If not, there is another one by Lance about his recent accurate prediction (that's 2 in a row) of a so called sun CME before it happened, based on magnetic field disruption of the earth by unknown source that he attributes to PlanetX/Niburu. It is 45 minutes and is much clearer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7M-q...Ui3G5T_YVV5IQ=



The thing is, Nasa is not acknowledging this magnetic field disruption, pre- so called CME, that has been a pattern since at least before the Japan quake. Nasa is claiming that the so called Sun CME is causing the magnetic field (MF) disruption - when in reality this disruption was already ocurring before the socalled CME. Do you see? Nasa has been lying about what is causing the MF disruption. Why is Nasa lying? What are they hiding?

This seems fantastic I know, but there is no doubt that they are hiding something. The facts speak for themselves. So that leads me to question anything they are saying as seen in the video (post 41). It seemed like she was hiding something. Niburu.

Here are some Nasa pics. Notice the debris trail behind it. I will post several pics just to show it is not a fluke.

Also notice that the Japanese site that was posting the Magnetosphere data are no longer doing this as of a 2-3 days ago. Why? This smells like a coverup, by blaming the Sun for MF disruptions, earthquakes etc., when in fact there is an object that is causing it and that object could be coming from the Capricorn constellation as pointed out in the video that you posted on the other thread or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNGDz...ature=youtu.be

[foreverkeeps]

I don't understand what the debris trail means? And was the quake in Japan part of this? I know it happened before March 22. and something coming from the constellation Capricorn could be the planet niburu and affecting our magnetic field, and goona hurt us so they don't want to cause widespread panic so they are trying to hide it from us?

[Buckster]

I don't understand what the debris trail means? And was the quake in Japan part of this? I know it happened before March 22. and something coming from the constellation Capricorn could be the planet niburu and affecting our magnetic field, and goona hurt us so they don't want to cause widespread panic so they are trying to hide it from us?

I am no expert. In fact, I know very little about space objects etc. But, to me at least, the debris trail serves to help identify this object as being the same one that is seen on the various Nasa pics taken at different times and it shows the object to BE a real physical thing. Something of considerable mass IS there. Nasas' protests not withstanding.

[Buckster]

Here is Lances' latest. He explains, in his opinion, why the nict site went down. Which I do agree with. Still speaks kind of fast, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glFYNITF67k



Here is his description that is under the video.

I used the pattern I shared in previous videos to forecast EXACTLY when charged particles would hit Earth BEFORE any "solar eruption" and BEFORE any forecast from NOAA twice in a row now! Not only that, after the second time it happened.. from the 9th forward the Data archives at the NICT is wiped out and the live feed is rarely on anymore. Plus even more recently is was documented that there has been "magnetic wind coming from the dark side of Earth". Where is this coming from? For how long have I been saying this ISN'T coming from the Sun How long have I been talking about this pattern on youtube????? Anybody else on youtube been able to document within a time frame of when charged particles would hit Earth before any "solar flares" and before any NOAA forecast twice in a row??? I think not! There is no debunking this info! This is not no top secret information, IT'S ALL OUT THERE... study the information for yourself if anything. There is an OBVIOUS PATTERN of when Earth's Magnetic Field getting repelled by alignment of another incoming same polarity Magnetic field... PLANET X! As it's incoming there is at times alignment of same polarity of Earth's Magnetic field in that our North Pole clearly gets repelled.. when it happens there is a quake and charged particle pattern that occurs. I prove is this pattern is KNOWN, by Sun disinformation being created around the times of these large quakes shortly after Earth's field gets repelled. "They" know the pattern, they know Planet X is repelling Earth's magnetic field and thus also aiming the charged particles from the tail of PX at Earth at times. ANY activity.. CME, Solar Flare takes a day or two to reach Earth once erupted, I clearly show our Magnetic field is ALREADY BEING REPELLED before any necessary travel time from any so called "solar activity". Now you know why the NICT has been having "issues" lately. I exposed this pattern and the disinformation by using their data. While I'm pissed the NICT is currently down because I can't use their data to forecast anymore.. they took it down right after I exposed the truth for the second time which says a lot about what I've been talking about all along! Bitter sweet alright! If you have something rude to say, debunk the information first.. you can't! Nobody can actually because I forecasted things before they actually happened just by following the pattern and what I learned from Ztalk. I put a lot of hard work into researching and documenting all this.. for no money and I'm not even partnered with youtube either. I want a message to get across to help people, especially those whom are struggling to find enough truth about what's going on.. I've been there myself and in that I also know I must keep a pure intention which I do have to be taken seriously at all. I'm feed up with the lies and disinformation on Earth, really! Please share this video, go make a difference and help out there. If I can do all this work and documenting without gaining anything personal from it besides risking myself.. I'd really appreciate if you share this information. Thanks If you want to learn more about this pattern in detail please watch this: /watch?v=GywAotF1iFc to see my two forecasts that came true in details please go here: /watch?v=Q7M-qyrATME

[knickgnat]

Buckster, thanks for the video. There was a 7.2 EQ Mexico today. Beginning to think first video's cycle more real than not.

[Buckster]

Buckster, thanks for the video. There was a 7.2 EQ Mexico today. Beginning to think first video's cycle more real than not.

Yes, agreed. Can't debunk the facts. That's what makes it so true. So what do TPTB do, they stop publishing the data. But the cat is out of the bag now.

According to this site:

http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/

There have been:

7.9, 7.3, 7.4, 6.1, 6.2, 6.3 and numerous 5's, all in the last 4 hours!

[foreverkeeps]

Yes, agreed. Can't debunk the facts. That's what makes it so true. So what do TPTB do, they stop publishing the data. But the cat is out of the bag now. Sooner or later, they are not going to be able to hide the presence of this other planet. We will be able to see it with the naked eye. Unfortunately, it will be too late for most to prepare to do anything about it because they were good little , and listened to the lies of Nasa. hint, hint.

Too late because if it is another planet we are doomed? Why?

[Buckster]

Foreverkeeps,

Too late because if it is another planet we are doomed? Why?

Why? You can't be serious.

I was actually editing the post while you were posting. Since the planet is supposedly approaching from the direction of the south pole we (in the northern hemisphere) won't see it with the naked eye. But then, I am just a novice about this stuff, so what do I know.

[foreverkeeps]

So if an object like a planet is where it looks like it is, once it comes back around the sun it will slam into us? or knock us out of orbit?

[Buckster]

So if an object like a planet is where it looks like it is, once it comes back around the sun it will slam into us? or knock us out of orbit?

No, nobody is saying that it will slam into us or knock us out of orbit. Where did you hear this? Not from me or in the videos that I posted.

Why don't you take the time or make the effort to watch the videos?

[foreverkeeps]

i watched the one from lance showing proof the cme was after the mf change, but i am still foggy on the danger.

[Buckster]

Here is another of his videos.

This seems to be a better sound recording.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAzNj8zN4kY

[Buckster]

i watched the one from lance showing proof the cme was after the mf change, but i am still foggy on the danger.

He is saying that this planet is causing some huge earthquakes. We have had some very large earthquakes the last couple of years. ie. Japan, Chile, New Zealand, etc. Are you aware of the damage these quake did?

Now, I assume that you are in America. Are you aware of any earthquake danger for America? Does America have any dangerous "earthquake" faults? Do you live near an earthquake danger area? Be aware. Prepare. That's all.

Planet X/Niburu has been causing some huge earthquakes and it will continue to do this until it leaves the solar system.

I just see this planet as being one of the mechanisms that God is using to bring the chastisement of the world as He has said He will do, outlined in the Book of Revelation etc.

As far as danger. I guess it depends on what people consider dangerous. Some people like youself don't seem think that large earthquakes are dangerous, while others do. Some people prepare with physical preps, some don't. To each, his own.

The greatest danger is actually not believing what Jersus Christ did for mankind which is generally called the Gospel. But that is for another thread on another forum. I don't want to drift this thread.

[foreverkeeps]

It all sounded like maybe more, like TEOTWAWKI. However, being in the SE, the New Madrid is worrisome. I agree bible prophecy seems to be happening. Born again since 1987. Thanks!

[Vicki]

I found this YouTube of a NASA panel discussion where caller asks them about Niburu and they almost acknowledge it, imo. It just seemed like she was hiding something. Watch it.

The call is at about 3:25.

What caught my eye was the third fella in squirming in his chair.

[Vicki]

Yes, agreed. Can't debunk the facts. That's what makes it so true. So what do TPTB do, they stop publishing the data. But the cat is out of the bag now.

According to this site:

http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/

There have been:

7.9, 7.3, 7.4, 6.1, 6.2, 6.3 and numerous 5's, all in the last 4 hours!

Love that site. Good information!

[Buckster]

What caught my eye was the third fella in squirming in his chair.

WOW. Now that you mention it. Yes. He sqirmed alright. Actually, they all looked a little uncomfortable. Especially the guys. Great observation Vicke. I didn't see that. I was mostly focused on the womans' response. And even then, she seemed to be hiding something. That's why I posted it.

[Vicki]

WOW. Now that you mention it. Yes. He sqirmed alright. Actually, they all looked a little uncomfortable. Especially the guys. Great observation Vicke. I didn't see that. I was mostly focused on the womans' response. And even then, she seemed to be hiding something. That's why I posted it.

Yep, first he hears "Planet X" and he as well as the others look directly at the second woman in as if she had been briefed on just that question. Then he squirms from side to side as if to say 'this makes me uncomfortable" and then he looks down and at his watch as if to say I hope she tells them something and they don't wake up and are we done yet I wanna get out of here because I'm uncomfortable". Good grief!

lol

[Hansa44]

Yep, first he hears "Planet X" and he as well as the others look directly at the second woman in as if she had been briefed on just that question. Then he squirms from side to side as if to say 'this makes me uncomfortable" and then he looks down and at his watch as if to say I hope she tells them something and they don't wake up and are we done yet I wanna get out of here because I'm uncomfortable". Good grief!

lol

I saw that too and wondered if anyone else noticed. Body language. I didn't see any smiles or smirks that this is a silly question about planet x.
Sheesh, NASA has been talking about this planet for years. Till they get silenced.

And the more I think about it, the more I believe the movie 2012 was done deliberately to help wake people up. I honestly do not believe it was done just for entertainment value, plus the super rush to get it out to movie theaters.

[Hansa44]

Go look at the Japan thread. There were 188 views about that 9 quake when P.W. posted. Uuummm, what day is it now? Oh that's right. 188 days till the next big quake. Frankly I hope the Mexico quake was the one we were worried about.

Just another weird coincidence. Didn't want to post on that thread and spoil the views. But someone will. Just not me. LOL

[knickgnat]

Swarm showing in N. California last 24 hours. Another "look out for" in the magnetic theory.

[Buckster]

Here is an article about the history of Planet Xs`discovery.


http://yowusa.com/planetx/2012/planetx-2012-03a/1.shtml

The Planet X Cover-up in
the Mainstream Media

Yowusa.com, 18-March-2012
Justin Braithwaite
Page 1 of 2

The Planet X Cover-up in the Mainstream MediaOn December 30th, 1983, NASA's Chief Scientist of the Infra-Red Astronomical Satellite telescope (IRAS) announced that NASA had discovered Planet X.

Just one week after the story of Planet X was released, the magazine US News and World Report ran a story retracting the announcement and NASA has been silent ever since.

That didn’t stop Dr. Robert S. Harrington who was the chief astronomer of the US Naval Observatory until his mysterious death in 1993.

By analyzing an extensive amount of publications relating to Planet X, in chronological order, not only does the cover up of Planet X become extraordinary, but one gains a unique perspective of the evolution of the Planet X discovery.

The following is a comprehensive collection of excerpts from Planet X articles dating back to the 1950’s. Pay close attention to the tone of each article as the theories progress.


Early Speculation — 1950 to 1968

In 1950, Immanuel Velikovsky published his ground-breaking work, Worlds in Collision. The hateful scientific attacks upon him were crushing, yet, his book was found open on Einstein's desk after his death.

This suppression was aimed not just at Velikovsky. It was aimed at the kind of knowledge that naturally flows out from what is certainly, one of the most challenging books in the history of science. If was in the midst of this scientific pogrom, that the Planet X story truly began.



Spokane Daily Chronicle - Dec 9, 1950
Planet Pluto Almost Defies Measurements

The new object for some time was designated by such names as Planet X, the Flagstaff object, and the trans-Neptunian planet.

Some suggested that is should be called Lowell of the late director of the observatory since he had calculated that another planet must lie beyond Neptune and had seemingly predicted its location fairly accurately.



The Washington Reporter - Jan 2, 1952
Astronomers’ Scan Skies Seeking Tenth Planet X

He says scientists have observed that Neptune is being lifted above it's normal path in the heavens and that the cause may well be a huge tenth or perhaps even an eleventh planet slowly circling in space millions of miles beyond the present known limits of the solar system. "Perhaps in the near future,"

Dr. Levitt declares, "astronomers will again be pointing their telescopes to predetermined points searching for the point of light called Planet X."



The very name, Planet X, was derived from the Roman numeral system as there were only nine known planets in the solar system at that time. Hence, the Roman numeral X, for the number ten. The very search for Planet X was launched due to noticeable disturbances in the orbits of Neptune and Uranus.



The Evening Independent - Oct 14, 1963
The Discovery of the Planet Pluto

PlutoThe next day the news spread out over the world. Soon newspaper and magazine reporters arrived in Flagstaff and swarmed over the observatory located on Mars Hill.

Letters and telegrams poured in, containing congratulations and suggesting names for the new planet. In early May, the name Pluto was selected by Lowell Observatory and officially proposed to the American Astronomical Society.



The discovery of Pluto was officially announced on March 13th, 1930 and this article was telling the story of its discovery on the 33rd anniversary date.



The Victoria Advocate - Jun 13, 1968
Pioneer 10 Still Searching

And it is relaying strong evidence suggesting Planet X or possibly two smaller unknown planets exist.

"We have a 90 to 99 percent confidence that Uranus and Neptune are being disturbed, and by one candidate for that is a single Planet X," said Anderson. "It's conceivable there could be other gravitational effects on the two orbits."



John D. Anderson of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory said in 1968 that there is a 90 to 99 percent chance that Planet X exists.


A Watershed Year for Planet X Resarch — 1972

It seems NASA was confident that something was out there and since it was yet to be discovered, there was no need to hide anything.



The Nevada Daily Mail - Apr 26, 1972
Planet X Delays Comet's Arrival

"Intolerable errors" in the predicted timetable of Halley's Comet have led a University of California scientific team to believe a 10th planet may be circling the sun beyond Pluto - outermost known planet in the solar system.

Three computer scientists at the University's Lawrence Livermore Laboratory said Friday their prediction of the planet's existence is based on mathematical calculations related to the orbit of the mysterious comet.



It is important to note that while Planet X was still undiscovered, the scientific community was very open about their theories and research.

At this point, NASA is already on record stating that they are sure Planet X exists and now a scientific team from the University of California concurs.



Bangor Daily News - Apr 28, 1972
10th Planet a Possibility

To make his predictions, Joseph L. Brady, supervisor of numerical techniques at the University of California, used information from previous observations of Halley's Comet, which has been reported since before the birth of Christ. With the laboratory's enormous computer system he worked out the planet's probable location.



Beaver County Times - Apr 28, 1972
Planet X Joins Solar System

Existence of the mysterious 10th planet had been predicted before, but Brady is the first to predict its orbit, mass and position, Lawrence officials said.



The previous two articles are discussing the same research methods and theories. However, scientists and astronomers wouldn’t publish their theories in the Journal of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific if they were not convinced in their work, would they?



The Phoenix - Apr 28, 1972
10th Planet Suggested

The calculations concerning Planet X evolved from the studies of Halley's Comet. The comet's orbit contains mysterious deviations and its appearance to Earth has never been predicted with accuracy.



Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Apr 29, 1972
10th Planet a Possibility

The proposed body - dubbed "Planet X" by scientists - would be 3 times as large as Saturn and twice as far as Neptune from the Sun.



Sunday Times-Sentinel - Apr 30, 1972
Planet X Will Be Found Soon

Discovery of a "Planet X," nearly 6 billion miles from the Earth on the border of the Milky Way, has been predicted by scientists at the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory.



The Sydney Morning Herald - May 2, 1972
Haley's Comet Gives Clue to Planet X

Haley's CometBut Brady thinks he can supply a good diary or "ephemeris" of Planet X's movements. And astronomers might spot it because the planet would move against the background of stars which are so much further away they appear not to move at all.



By studying the mysterious deviations in the orbit of Haley’s Comet, scientists in the 1970’s are beginning to formulate hypothesis to the size, location, orbit and distance of Planet X.



The Montreal Gazette - May 6, 1972
Beyond the Edge

A school boy in Britain says he knew it was there all the time. Perhaps so, but he didn't know just where it was, and among astronomers, as among old wives, seeing is believing. X may take a long time to find.

It is now on the edge of the Milky Way, where even a small area encompasses thousands of stars, many brighter than our new planet.

It took 15 years to find Pluto even after its location was known. We may have to be patient.



The important thing to note from this article is that it is indicative of the scientific community’s increasing acceptance of Planet X.

It is becoming more a question of when, and not if, Planet X will be discovered.



Sarasota Herald-Tribune - Jul 16, 1972
Planet X

The discovery of a tenth planet in our solar system by virtue, evidently, of a ripple in the glide path of Halley's Comet is unquestionably a triumph of mathematics best appreciated by mathematicians. The scientists of the University of California's Lawrence Livermore Laboratory can take a bow.



The mathematic existence of Planet X is celebrated by the University of California…



Tri City Herald - Nov 2, 1972
Astronomer's Report X's Out Planet X Calculations

"Not so." Retorted Giclas. (Henry L. Gicias, executive director of Lowell Observatory)

"If Brady had contacted us, we would have showed him photographic plates for his predicted position of the planet. These plates have been carefully examined and no planet has been found.



This is the first article to oppose the Planet X momentum. It does not, however, seem to be disinformation oriented or seek to cover up Planet X.

Gicias is referring to the photographic plates that were taken from 1929-1945 at the Lowell Observatory that covered the whole northern sky down to magnitude 16 and 17.


Brown Dwarf Possibilities — 1973 to 1980

Of course, what is known today is that Planet X is a brown dwarf-like planet that would not show up in a regular photograph as it would have to be viewed via the infrared spectrum.



The Rochester Sentinel - Feb 2, 1973
Planet Mercury is Visible this Month

Last year Joseph Brady announced that disturbances in the orbit of Haley's Comet could be accounted for by a planet even more distant than Pluto and having a mass of three times that of Saturn. Brady's Planet X has been searched for carefully but it has not been found. Like Vulcan, is Planet X non-existent?



Take notice that there are several articles included in this conglomeration that do not deny the existence of Planet X but merely contend that it has not yet been found.



The Times-News - Feb 19, 1980
Pluto: A Recognized, Yet Still Enigmatic World

In 1978, Dr. James W. Christy of the United States Naval Observatory found that Pluto had a moon. It was named Charon for the boatman in Greek mythology. Subsequent analysis of the moon's motions made it clear that Pluto was small in both diameter and mass.

It could not be Planet X. Indeed, astronomers now believe that the whole hypothesis was based on erroneous observations, and that there is no Planet X anywhere.



The above referenced “erroneous observations” is a phrase to remember as it will surface again later in the cover up of Planet X.



Ocala Star-Banner - Apr 9, 1980
Pluto May Disappear in the 1980's but the 10th Planet May Be Found

Two other astronomers at the The Naval Observatory - Robert Harrington and Thomas Van Flanders - theorize that in the distant past an unknown planet passed near Neptune and gravitational forces ripped off a chunk of matter that became Pluto.

Planet X's own motion was violently disturbed by the near collision and it was hurled into the darkest regions of the solar system, where it's probably drifting around, too faint to be seen.



It is interesting that the subject of Planet X fell silent between 1973 and mid-1980. That would change in April of that year.


Enter Dr. Robert Harrington — April 9, 1980

On April 9th, 1980, Robert Harrington enters the picture. Although he would not actually discover Planet X for over another decade, we can see that he had theories of Planet X back in 1980.

The author of this article goes on to prognosticate that Pluto would ultimately lose its status as the 9th planet in the solar system and Planet X would take its place.



Anchorage Daily News - Feb 6, 1983
Old Clues Spark New Scramble to Find Planet X

UranusRecent calculations by the US Naval Observatory have confirmed the orbital perturbation exhibited by Uranus and Neptune, which Dr Thomas C. Van Flandern, an astronomer at the observatory, says could be explained by "a single undiscovered planet."

He and a colleague, Dr Robert Harrington, calculate that the tenth planet should be two to five times more massive than Earth and have a highly elliptical orbit that takes it some 5 billion miles beyond that of Pluto - hardly next-door but still within that gravitational influence of the sun.



After falling off the radar during the 1970's, Planet X became a hot topic again due to the work of Flandern and Harrington.

This article goes on to explain that even the astronomers who are not proponents of the tenth planet theory agree that something else is responsible.

However, the perturbed orbits of Neptune and Uranus is no longer a debate.



Daily Leader - Mar 10, 1983
Planet X Keeps Astrologers Guessing

They say it's like looking for lint in a storm. Herrington creates theoretical models of the solar system, inserting Planet X in various places, to see if anything agrees with what is already known about the heavens. Van Flandern does the same thing with complex mathematical computations.

The astronomers report they are looking exclusively in the southern hemisphere. And they believe the planet will be found beyond Pluto, perhaps as many as five billion miles away. Herrington thinks the planet is of intermediate size, or three to five times the mass of Earth.



This article is essentially a chronological record of the search for Planet X to date and then moves into the research of Van Flandern and Harrington.

It closes with an interesting tidbit about Harrington feeling pressed for time to find Planet X before funding dries up for their research.

Additionally, the northern hemisphere has been the focal point in the search for Planet X until now, and Robert Harrington is searching in the southern hemisphere.



Nature 31 - March 1983
Comets, Planet X and the Orbit of Neptune

NeptuneThe recent discovery that Pluto's mass is negligible compared with that of the Earth has raised again the question of the cause of the important discrepancies between the observed and computed positions of the outer planets.

...but the non-discovery of any single body of this size puts the 'Planet X' hypothesis in severe difficulty.



M. E. Bailey of the Astronomy Centre at the University of Sussex was the author of this article and merely summarizes where the astronomy community was at to date with the Planet X issue.

It is noteworthy that he credits Harrington for determining that the mass of Pluto is not sufficient to account for the discrepancies in the orbits of the outer planets.



Anchorage Daily News - Apr 26, 1983
Pioneer 10 Pushes Beyond Goals, Into the Unknown

Pioneer 10Accordingly, Pioneer 10 may lead scientists to the discovery of some massive object toward the edge of the solar system.

It may be, as some astronomers suspect, a "brown dwarf" star, a celestial object that was not quite massive enough for its thermonuclear furnace to ignite.

Since most stars are paired, it is not unreasonable to assume that the Sun might have such a dim companion.

Or the force could be from a 10th planet, the long-sought Planet X. Evidence assembled in recent years has led several groups of astronomers to renew the search for a large planet out beyond Pluto and Neptune.



Of significance, this is the first reference to the existence of a brown dwarf star on the edge of the solar system or to the possibility that the sun may have a twin.



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The Planet X Cover-up in the Mainstream Media

The Planet X Cover-up in the Mainstream MediaOn December 30th, 1983, NASA's Chief Scientist of the Infra-Red Astronomical Satellite telescope (IRAS) announced that NASA had discovered Planet X.

Just one week after the story of Planet X was released, the magazine US News and World Report ran a story retracting the announcement and NASA has been silent ever since.

That didn’t stop Dr. Robert S. Harrington who was the chief astronomer of the US Naval Observatory until his mysterious death in 1993.

By analyzing an extensive amount of publications relating to Planet X, in chronological order, not only does the cover up of Planet X become extraordinary, but one gains a unique perspective of the evolution of the Planet X discovery.

[knickgnat]

Weird coincidence you posting this info. Was rewatching a video about the very same thing - kind of interesting.

SURVIVING 2012 AND PLANET X

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0bj...ure=plpp_video

[Buckster]

Looks like the Nict site is back up. But it remains to be seen if it will post true data or if during its' absense it was preparing the site to "synchronize" with Nasa.

If it posts true data, then the magnetic disturbance to the earth should at times (not always) not be registering anything in the data on the chart to the right, for example:

See post 28 for example of how solar wind should appear in the data charts.

[Buckster]

I find that the vast majority of YouTube videos to be awful, with regard to PlanetX/Niburu. But that's just my own opinion. I won't post them anyway, and I have to ask people to be very circumspect with what videos they do post to this thread.

Thanx in advance.

[NC Susan]

Have you guys seen all the posts and pics about brooms standing straight up ?

More info, please? I saw this myself at my daughter's house. What posts?

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...s-come-through!!!

[Buckster]

That has nothing to do with the thread.

[Buckster]

This article does not talk about PlanetX/Niburu, but it does identify some other anomalous forces that even Nasa is having to admit are there and that they didn't know existed before.

http://www.zengardner.com/is-nasa-tr...-cosmic-shift/

Is NASA Tracking The Cosmic Shift?
Tuesday, April 3rd, 2012. Filed under: Alternative Knowledge Amazing Universe Earth Changes Esoterica Space News The Awakening Uncategorized



by Zen Gardner



When it comes to terraforming, the Universe makes man’s puny efforts to be king of the hill look pretty pathetic. Not only are we completely at the mercy of a constantly changing planet, but we’re careening through space totally vulnerable to a sea of objects and cosmic influences beyond our wildest imagination.

Yet intuitively we have the peace that all is under control in some magnificent way.

The decades long assertion that our solar system would soon enter an electrically charged life altering photon belt around the Sirius star system has been regularly dismissed as pseudo science–NASA speak for “conspiracy theory”. Despite periodical scientific validation it has been continually pushed aside by mainstream science.

Until now.



New Discoveries Confirming Old Assertions

Although they’re still not making any direct connections to the photon belt assertions, recent discoveries from probing satellites is forcing scientists to change their tune. And their entire understanding of space and physics.

We are now officially within a local energy cloud detected a few years ago by the Voyager satellites. Is this indicative of the beginning of the waves of vibrational changes that have been foretold?



Our local interstellar environment. IBEX data shows that our Solar System is currently located within the boundary of the Local Cloud. Image Credit: IBEX team, M. Paternostro (The Adler Planetarium), Dr. P. Frisch (University of Chicago), Dr. S. Redfield (Wesleyan University)
First The Interstellar Cloud – ‘That Physics Says Should Not Exist’

The solar system is passing through a region of the Milky Way filled with cosmic rays and interstellar clouds. The magnetic field of our own sun, inflated by the solar wind into a bubble called the “heliosphere,” substantially protects us from these things. However, the bubble itself is vulnerable to external fields. A strong magnetic field just outside the solar system could press against the heliosphere and interact with it in unknown ways. Will this strengthen our natural shielding—or weaken it? No one can say.

see caption“Using data from Voyager, we have discovered a strong magnetic field just outside the solar system,” explains lead author Merav Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University. “This magnetic field holds the interstellar cloud together and solves the long-standing puzzle of how it can exist at all.”



Above: Voyager flies through the outer bounds of the heliosphere en route to interstellar space.

The discovery has implications for the future when the solar system will eventually bump into other, similar clouds in our arm of the Milky Way galaxy. Source



Then There’s The Unexplained IBEX Ribbon Cutting Into Our Helioshere

Following the Voyager satellites was the IBEX satellite to fill in measurements that the Voyagers couldn’t detect. The graphs can be a little hard to follow,

“This is an important finding,” says Arik Posner, IBEX program scientist at NASA Headquarters. “Interstellar space just beyond the edge of the solar system is mostly unexplored territory. Now we know, there could be a strong, well-organized magnetic field sitting right on our doorstep.” [emphasis mine]

The IBEX data fit in nicely with recent results from Voyager. Voyager 1 and 2 are near the edge of the solar system and they also have sensed strong* magnetism nearby. Voyager measurements are relatively local to the spacecraft, however. IBEX is filling in the “big picture.” The ribbon it sees is vast and stretches almost all the way across the sky, suggesting that the magnetic field behind it must be equally vast. (Source)

What Other Energies Await?

It’s hard to fully picture this. The energy being detected is from a different, larger outside energy field that is cutting through our heliosphere, the large bubble around our solar system created by our sun’s emissions. Somehow this incoming energy is creating a ring..something they try to explain as a geometric effect of interacting with this other energetic field.

This may or may not be in the direction of our central star Alcyone, the big star of the Pleiadian system around which we are reported to revolve, but certainly all things are related. (I’ve looked for an appropriate stellar map but as yet cannot find one.)

The IBEX Ribbon: are we in for a new era in the Sun's voyage through the Galaxy?

The Sun traveling through the Galaxy happens to cross at the present time a blob of gas about ten light-years across, with a temperature of 6-7 thousand degrees kelvin. This so-called Local Interstellar Cloud is immersed in a much larger expanse of a million-degree hot gas, named the Local Bubble. The energetic neutral atoms (ENA) are generated by charge exchange at the interface between the two gaseous media. ENA can be observed provided the Sun is close enough to the interface. The apparent Ribbon of ENA discovered by the IBEX satellite can be explained by a geometric effect: one observes many more ENA by looking along a line-of-sight almost tangent to the interface than by looking in the perpendicular direction. (Source: SRC/Tentaris,ACh/Maciej Frolow)

Is the Sun going to enter soon a million-degree galactic cloud of interstellar gas? Scientists from the Space Research Centre of the Polish Academy of Sciences, Los Alamos Labs, Southwest Research Institute, and Boston University suggest that the Ribbon of enhanced emissions of Energetic Neutral Atoms, discovered last year by a NASA Small Explorer satellite IBEX, could be explained by a geometric effect coming up because of approach of the Sun to the boundary between the Local Cloud of interstellar gas and another cloud of a very hot gas called the Local Bubble. If this hypothesis is correct, IBEX is catching matter from a hot neighboring interstellar cloud, which the Sun might enter in a hundred years. Source

Ah, those energetic space bubbles! These received massive attention recently as “citizen scientists” discovered a huge increase in these in our galaxy. These are the product of new star formation in the galaxy so something is turning on the power! We’re talking serious resurgent energy here, enough to form new stars out of clouds of gas and dust. That is our constantly re-creating, recharging amazing Universe!

And 100 years to there? They weren’t sure there even was an interstellar cloud, didn’t know it was magnetically held together, and thought it was a ways off…and now we’re in it! This science-speak can be tough to decipher but we can try to piece things together and keep a close eye on what we can find out.



Space bubbles from star formations in the milky way

The Invasion of the Truth Vibrations?

NASA may be a heavily controlled and mostly covert agency, but they’ve gotta produce enough public results to justify their funding and existence. This an an amazing admission on their part although they’ll often turn things like this into some catastrophic scare to keep anyone from deriving anything empowering about it.

Who knows the exact situation but all this is extremely significant. And such increased energy for sure could be at least partially responsible for the catastrophic earth changes we’re experiencing with our highly excited sun and its emissions, the huge uptick in tectonic activity, climate changes, strange animal die-offs and the quickly moving magnetic poles.

Don’t forget, we’re also experiencing a great culmination of cycles called the Harmonic Convergence as we line up with the Galactic center and meet amazing cosmological and astrological alignments.

Who knows what it will unlock!
Change Is Here – Expect the Unexpected

When this “ribbon” of energetic particles was first discovered in 2009, the lead scientists were admittedly “troubled” by what they found. This wasn’t supposed to be there according to all of their calculations and understandings of physics.

Nor was the proverbial bumblebee supposed to fly. Ahem.

Hopefully these vibrational changes as manifested at least partially by these massive energy systems our solar system is encountering will get theirs and many others’ right brains working with the left again and they’ll finally start to “get it”. Yes, even amongst the ensnared matrix people.

It’s going to happen. It has to happen, as Carl Jung famously said, “because it needs to happen”.

It’s all part of bringing these realities into conscious awareness for as many as will receive it, on any and every level. It’s up to each individual and their free choice.

And all this will happen on a massive scale. Many will get it, most won’t.

So be careful, a lot of instability will be unleashed as these vibrations hit every sphere of creation and every aspect of our lives while people wrestle with these new realities. Watch your activities carefully.

So I say: Cosmo is turning up the juice – drink up! This is good stuff!

But keep an eye out around you!

Much love, Zen

[foreverkeeps]

This is good stuff!

[Buckster]

Well, here is another one from Zen Gardner. The thing is, I don`t subscribe to his philosophy, but I like some of his posts. These last two of his, especially. And this one is a doozer. Awesome hardly even begins to describe this.

Enjoy.

ETA. The two videos are similar, but not exactly the same.

http://www.zengardner.com/nasa-mysti...-energy-field/

NASA Mystified By Enormous Energy Field
Thursday, April 5th, 2012. Filed under: Alternative Knowledge Amazing Universe Earth Changes Esoterica Science and Technology Space News Spirituality The Awakening



by Zen Gardner

The revelations of our energetic Universe keep on coming from many sources, including NASA’s new satellites, and it’s quite remarkable.

The observable Universe is something mankind has read as a language since the beginning. The unobservable worlds have always been the realm of philosophers, religious expressions and the esoteric sciences.

Are they coming together via modern technology, as we approach the Singularity as some call it, as a manifestation of some sort of consciousness shift?

I think so.

The video below was sent to me by a dear friend at Philosophers Stone in confirmation of my last post on this subject. It so blew my mind I wanted to get it out there as a sequel of sorts and to reinforce the above.
Scientists In Awe

More information being collected by higher and higher technology is making some seriously profound discoveries.

NASA’s Fermi Gamma-Ray Telescope is finding hundreds of new objects at the very edge of the electromagnetic spectrum. Many of them have one thing in common: Astronomers have no idea what they are. – NASA comment on the video

The beauty of this is the scientific community’s own sense of awe as they’re no doubt realizing the old way of viewing the Universe has got to change. And, that we have a lot to learn about our energetic source.

That’s a good thing.

Let’s hope it stays refreshing and not the canned suppression of information we’re used to.
In Their Own Words

The statements in this recent NASA video I find refreshing. While again it’s a carefully produced item for public consumption from a tightly controlled operation, when you realize what they are talking about and trying to describe is fundamentally the creative, energetic workings of our amazing Universe that can only lead to more Truth, that’s cool!

Especially in light of the vibrational change we’re going through.

“Fermi is picking up crazy-energetic photons” says Dave Thompson, an astrophysicist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center. “And it’s detecting so many of them we’ve been able to produce the first all-sky map of the very-high energy Universe.”

The gamma rays Fermi detects are billions of times more energetic than visible light. He goes on to say that science only knew of 4 sources of gamma rays before, and now they’ve found over 600 news ones…a third of which they have no idea what they are! That’s huge!



Massive Fermi bubbles at the center of the Milky Way…never before detected.
New Structures Discovered

Some of these gamma-ray photon emitting sources are known. Super massive black holes called Blazars, “the seething remnants of supernova explosions”, and rapidly rotating neutron stars called pulsars, so they say.

And some come from the giant structures emanating from the Milky Way’s center called “Fermi bubbles”. These are amazing. Sci-fi can’t hold a candle to reality. They span some 20,000 light years above and below the galactic plane. You want big and powerful? And what are they?

No one in the mainstream seems to know. Or is at liberty to tell us.
Gamma Rays – Heralds of Great Energy

This is another scientific post that says some powerful things about gamma rays.

Gamma rays are by their very nature heralds of great energy and violence. They are a super-energetic form of light produced by sources such as black holes and massive exploding stars. Gamma-rays are so energetic that ordinary lenses and mirrors do not work. As a result, gamma-ray telescopes can’t always get a sharp enough focus to determine exactly where the sources are.

For two thirds of the new catalog’s sources the Fermi scientists can, with at least reasonable certainty, locate a known gamma ray-producing object*, such as a pulsar or Blazar, in the vicinity the gamma-rays are coming from. But the remaining third – the “mystery sources” — have the researchers stumped, at least for now. And they are the most tantalizing.

600 Mysteries (collide, 200px)



Nearly 600 sources in the latest Fermi catalog are unidentified.

“Some of the mystery sources could be clouds of dark matter – something that’s never been seen before,” speculates Thompson.

About 85% of the gravitational mass of the universe is dark matter. The stuff we see makes up the rest. Dark matter is something that pulls on things with the force of its gravity but can’t be detected in any other way. It doesn’t shine – doesn’t emit or scatter light – hence the adjective “dark.” Source

Here’s the short NASA clip about Fermi’s dis-coveries. Enjoy.



It’s All About Conscious Awakening

All of humanity is being presented with this energetic shift to either embrace willingly or vainly try to resist. The more discoveries like these, and the growing revelations in other areas regarding our true origins, the manipulation of humanity, the shift from ideology and heiearchy, the inter-connectivity of consciousness etc., the better.

But scientific validation always goes over big with left-brain reinforced humans. So I’m all for using everything we’ve got.

We’re all in this together so let’s all help each other wake up any way we can!

The truth vibrations, the cosmic awakening, whatever you want to call it, the energy is being dialed up in more ways than we can imagine and it’s wonderful!

My advice is to live a conscious life. Respond to these new prompts you’re getting and revel in your new found sense of conscious freedom. Look for it everywhere you turn and follow its lead.

Amazing things await each and every one of us but you will need to make some changes and let go of the old, however you’re led. And another good thing? As we each unplug from the matrix, the current oppressive structure will just naturally fall.

Each of us is the new world we seek. Just be it.

Much love,

Zen

[knickgnat]

Unexplained Sounds - May be related? Exploding Tiles/Ground Swelling Wisconsin (video below)

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24...n-Watertown-WI

[Buckster]

Thanks Knickgnat.

Sott.com is a good news site.

[Buckster]

I am going to post several articles in the next few posts. They deal with neutrinos from the sun affecting the nuclear decay rates of matter here on earth. They are a couple years old, but I searched them out because I remembered this news item and thought it might be important in view of all that is happening now. ie. EARTHQUAKES and VOLCANOES.

Also, in light of this threads focus on PX/Niburu, the following article is interesting for an observation that says that the changes in the decay rate occurred 1 and 1/2 days BEFORE a solar flare. Now, remember how the nict site chart of the earth magnetic field changes start ocurring about 1 - 1 1/2 days BEFORE any solar flare activity.

Isn't that curious??? Coincidence????

http://science.slashdot.org/story/10...ve-Decay-Rates

The Strange Case of Solar Flares and Radioactive Decay Rates 408
Posted by Soulskill on Monday August 23 2010, @11:55PM
from the cool-science dept.
DarkKnightRadick writes "Current models for radioactive decay have been challenged by, of all sources, the sun. According to the article, 'On Dec 13, 2006, the sun itself provided a crucial clue, when a solar flare sent a stream of particles and radiation toward Earth. Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins, while measuring the decay rate of manganese-54, a short-lived isotope used in medical diagnostics, noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about day and a half before the flare.' This is important because the rate of decay is very important not just for antique dating, but also for cancer treatment, time keeping, and the generation of random numbers. This isn't a one time measurement, either. 'Checking data collected at Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island and the Federal Physical and Technical Institute in Germany, they came across something even more surprising: long-term observation of the decay rate of silicon-32 and radium-226 seemed to show a small seasonal variation. The decay rate was ever so slightly faster in winter than in summer.'"

[Buckster]

If ever there is such a thing as DOOM PORN, this has got to be it.

The article is about 1 1/2 years old, but that is not relevant, imo.

This is an article about neutrinos (or previously UNKOWN FORCE) supposedly from the Sun (OR PX/Niburu or ? - my opinion) that seem to be affecting matter on earth like it should not do.

In light of the Earthquake and Volcano activity in recent years, maybe there is a connection.

There are links at the bottom of the article for scientific references. Go to the following link for that. And I will be posting some of those articles at those links, in some following posts, as well.

http://www.projectworldawareness.com...tating-matter/

Strange emissions by sun are mutating matter…
Posted on October 5, 2010 by rockingjude

~UPDATED 12/01/11 Check links please…This is not a scientific paper…link at bottom for source…Thank you ~jude

BY TERRENCE AYM

The angry sun



For months mounting fear has driven researchers to wring their hands over the approaching solar storms. Some have predicted devastating solar tsunamis that could wipe away our advanced technology, others voiced dire warnings that violent explosions on the surface of the sun could reach out to Earth, breach our magnetic field, and expose billions to high intensity X-rays and other deadly forms of cancer-causing radiation.

Now evidence has surfaced that something potentially more dangerous is happening deep within the hidden core of our life-giving star: never-before-seen particles—or some mysterious force—is being shot out from the sun and it’s hitting Earth.

Whatever it is, the evidence suggests it’s affecting all matter.

Strange and unknown

Alarmed physicists first became aware of this threat over the past several years. Initially dismissed as an anomaly, now frantic scientists are shooting e-mails back and forth to colleagues across the world attempting to grasp exactly what is happening to the sun.

Something impossible has happened. Yet the “impossible” has been proven to be true. Laboratories around the globe have confirmed that the rate of radioactive decay—once thought to be a constant and a bedrock of science—is no longer a constant. Something being emitted from the sun is interacting with matter in strange and unknown ways with the startling potential to dramatically change the nature of the very Earth itself.

Exactly what has scientists so on edge is the fact that the natural rate of decay of atomic particles has always been predictable. Indeed, using the decay rate of Carbon-14 has been a method to date archeological artifacts. The process, known as carbon dating, measures the quantity of Carbon-14 within organic objects. According to the numbers, Carbon-14 has a specific half-life of 5,730 years. Physicists have proven through exhaustive observation and experimentation over the course of a century that it takes 5,730 years for Carbon-14 atoms to decay into a stable Nitrogen-14.

The values don’t change—or at least they never have in the past. With certain evidence that radioactive decay can be significantly affected by an unknown effect from the sun, much of science is turned on its head.

Rate of decay speeding up

Worst of all, if the decay rates of matter are being mutated then all matter on Earth is being affected including the matter that makes up life.

The mutation may go so far as to change the underlying reality of the quantum universe—and by extrapolation-the nature of life, the principles of physics, perhaps even the uniform flow of time.

In fact, some evidence of time dilation has been gleaned from close observation of the decay rate. If particles interacting with the matter are not the cause—and matter is being affected by a new force of nature-then time itself may be speeding up and there’s no way to stop it.

Neutrinos the cause?

Researchers have correlated the anomalies in the decay rate to a 33-day period. That time frame matches the 33-day rotation of the solar core. Such a match strains credulity as being a mere coincidence.

Since the sun’s core is known to blast out continuous streams of particles called neutrinos, some scientists are attempting to find evidence that neutrinos are the culprits behind the mutation of matter.

There’s a problem with that hypothesis, however, as neutrinos are like ghost particles. They’re extremely difficult to detect. Normally, neutrinos pass through the Earth without any interaction at all. To a neutrino, it’s as if the Earth doesn’t exist.

Other than discovering a previously unknown property of neutrinos, or finding a new particle altogether, the possibility exists that no particle is behind the changes recorded in the radioactive decay rates. What could be causing the phenomenon is a previously unknown force.

Unknown dangers

As the sun builds towards solar maximum and a period of dangerous intensity never experienced by any living person inexorably approaches, strange, uncontrollable forces could be building deep within its fiery nuclear furnace.

It’s already been proven that the sun’s mass warps time, bends light waves and accounts for mutation of species on Earth. Now this new force may be directly interacting with matter in a way that could not only change Mankind’s understanding of physics, but change Mankind itself…and not necessarily in a beneficial way.

Yes, the e-mails will continue to fly and the hands will continue to wring. But in the end, we are all just observers.

Whether the phenomenon has no real impact on humanity, or the worst impact imaginable, nothing can be done to stop it. Once again, the titanic forces of nature rear up to overwhelm our technology—and we find ourselves like the playthings of gods.

Utterly helpless.

[Buckster]

As I said in the previous post, here is another article. This one is from Popular Science.


http://www.popsci.com/science/articl...scientists-say

Mysteriously, Solar Activity Found to Influence Behavior of Radioactive Materials On Earth
By Rebecca Boyle Posted 08.25.2010 at 3:58 pm 30



The Sun NASA

How's this for spooky action at a distance? The sun, at 93 million miles away, appears to be influencing the decay of radioactive elements inside the Earth, researchers say.

Given what we know about radioactivity and solar neutrinos, this should not happen. It's so bizarre that a couple scientists at Stanford and Purdue universities believe there's a chance that a previously unknown solar particle is behind it all.

The big news, according to Stanford's news service, is that the core of the sun -- where nuclear reactions produce neutrinos -- spins more slowly than the surface. This phenomenon might explain changing rates of radioactive decay scientists observed at two separate labs. But it does not explain why the decay-change happens. That violates the laws of physics as we know them.

While examining data on radioactive isotopes, Purdue researchers found disagreement in measured decay rates, which goes against the long-accepted belief that these rates are constant. While searching for an explanation, the scientists came across other research that noted seasonal variation in these decay rates. Apparently radioactivity is stronger in winter than in summer.

A 2006 solar flare suggested the sun was involved somehow. Purdue University nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins noticed the decay rate of a medical isotope dropped during the solar flare, and what's more, the decline started before the flare did. The latter finding could be useful for protecting satellites and astronauts -- if there is a correlation between decay rates and solar activity, changed decay rates could provide early warning of an impending solar storm.

But while that's good news for astronauts, it's bad news for physics.

Peter Sturrock, Stanford emeritus professor of applied physics and an expert on the inner workings of the sun, told the researchers to look for evidence that the changes in radioactive decay vary with the rotation of the sun. The answer was yes, suggesting that neutrinos are responsible.

But how could the nebulous neutrino, which does not interact with normal matter, be affecting decay rates? No one knows. It might be a previously unknown particle instead.

As Jenkins puts it, "What we're suggesting is that something that doesn't really interact with anything is changing something that can't be changed."

Though disaster movies would have you believe otherwise, we should not yet worry about solar neutrinos warming the core of the Earth. But perhaps we should worry that our understanding of the sun -- and perhaps our understanding of nuclear physics in general -- is a lot weaker than we thought.

[Stanford News]

[Buckster]

Here is another article in the same vein as the previous 3.

http://news.discovery.com/space/is-t...-particle.html

Is the Sun Emitting a Mystery Particle?

Analysis by Ian O'Neill
Wed Aug 25, 2010 02:21 PM ET
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When probing the deepest reaches of the Cosmos or magnifying our understanding of the quantum world, a whole host of mysteries present themselves. This is to be expected when pushing our knowledge of the Universe to the limit.

But what if a well-known -- and apparently constant -- characteristic of matter starts behaving mysteriously?

This is exactly what has been noticed in recent years; the decay rates of radioactive elements are changing. This is especially mysterious as we are talking about elements with "constant" decay rates -- these values aren't supposed to change. School textbooks teach us this from an early age.
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WATCH VIDEO: A solar eruption sends a wave of plasma hurtling towards Earth on Aug. 1, 2010. The event was captured by NASA satellites.

This is the conclusion that researchers from Stanford and Purdue University have arrived at, but the only explanation they have is even weirder than the phenomenon itself: The sun might be emitting a previously unknown particle that is meddling with the decay rates of matter. Or, at the very least, we are seeing some new physics.

Many fields of science depend on measuring constant decay rates. For example, to accurately date ancient artifacts, archaeologists measure the quantity of carbon-14 found inside organic samples at dig sites. This is a technique known as carbon dating.

Carbon-14 has a very defined half-life of 5730 years; i.e. it takes 5,730 years for half of a sample of carbon-14 to radioactively decay into stable nitrogen-14. Through spectroscopic analysis of the ancient organic sample, by finding out what proportion of carbon-14 remains, we can accurately calculate how old it is.

But as you can see, carbon dating makes one huge assumption: radioactive decay rates remain constant and always have been constant. If this new finding is proven to be correct, even if the impact is small, it will throw the science community into a spin.

Interestingly, researchers at Purdue first noticed something awry when they were using radioactive samples for random number generation. Each decay event occurs randomly (hence the white noise you'd hear from a Geiger counter), so radioactive samples provide a non-biased random number generator.

However, when they compared their measurements with other scientists' work, the values of the published decay rates were not the same. In fact, after further research they found that not only were they not constant, but they'd vary with the seasons. Decay rates would slightly decrease during the summer and increase during the winter.

SLIDE SHOW: Seeing the Sun in a New Light, The First Solar Dynamics Observatory Images

Experimental error and environmental conditions have all been ruled out -- the decay rates are changing throughout the year in a predictable pattern. And there seems to be only one answer.

As the Earth is closer to the sun during the winter months in the Northern Hemisphere (our planet's orbit is slightly eccentric, or elongated), could the sun be influencing decay rates?

In another moment of weirdness, Purdue nuclear engineer Jere Jenkins noticed an inexplicable drop in the decay rate of manganese-54 when he was testing it one night in 2006. It so happened that this drop occurred just over a day before a large flare erupted on the sun.

Did the sun somehow communicate with the manganese-54 sample? If it did, something from the sun would have had to travel through the Earth (as the sample was on the far side of our planet from the sun at the time) unhindered.

The sun link was made even stronger when Peter Sturrock, Stanford professor emeritus of applied physics, suggested that the Purdue scientists look for other recurring patterns in decay rates. As an expert of the inner workings of the sun, Sturrock had a hunch that solar neutrinos might hold the key to this mystery.

Sure enough, the researchers noticed the decay rates vary repeatedly every 33 days -- a period of time that matches the rotational period of the core of the sun. The solar core is the source of solar neutrinos.

It may all sound rather circumstantial, but these threads of evidence appear to lead to a common source of the radioactive decay rate variation. But there's a huge problem with speculation that solar neutrinos could impact decay rates on Earth: neutrinos aren't supposed to work like that.

Neutrinos, born from the nuclear processes in the core of the sun, are ghostly particles. They can literally pass through the Earth unhindered as they so weakly interact. How could such a quantum welterweight have any measurable impact on radioactive samples in the lab?

In short, nobody knows.

If neutrinos are the culprits, it means we are falling terribly short of understanding the true nature of these subatomic particles. But if (and this is a big if) neutrinos aren't to blame, is the sun generating an as-yet-to-be- discovered particle?

If either case is true, we'll have to go back and re-write those textbooks.

Source: Stanford University

[Vicki]

Buckster, you don't have to convince me. I'm with ya on this and have seen enough evidence to not even wonder anymore. Thanks for keeping at it.

[Buckster]

Buckster, you don't have to convince me. I'm with ya on this and have seen enough evidence to not even wonder anymore. Thanks for keeping at it.

Overdid it a bit, huh. Oh well, I am not going to go through it all and change it. I did make the "before" word a little smaller though. . This idea of things (in earths case, the magnetic field disturbance) happening before any solar flare is pivitol to what is happening on the planet (earthquakes, volcanoes) and in the solar system (heating up of outer planets), imo.