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    Russia Fires, Foreign Embassies Evacuate.

    Diplomatic staff from foreign embassies as evacuating in Moscow and its all due to fires that are out of control and may have burnt down bio-warfare factories and spewing contamination into the air. Also chatter of a nuclear reactor or some other nuclear facially that also burnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    Diplomatic staff from foreign embassies as evacuating in Moscow and its all due to fires that are out of control and may have burnt down bio-warfare factories and spewing contamination into the air. Also chatter of a nuclear reactor or some other nuclear facially that also burnt.
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    Its out there and with all on going it's just a matter of time this go's mainstream. I think these fire's are being set by some group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    Its out there and with all on going it's just a matter of time this go's mainstream. I think these fire's are being set by some group.
    That could become a geopolitical event, and a bad one if the Russians decide to claim an outside entity sabotaged those two facilities. Not good.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSearcher View Post
    That could become a geopolitical event, and a bad one if the Russians decide to claim an outside entity sabotaged those two facilities. Not good.
    I presume Russia might have stoked the fires to create an ongoing smoke screen for strategic redeployments NATO will not know about before all-out war.

    From Tass:

    " Moscow is enveloped in smog from burning peat bogs in the suburbs of the Russian capital. People are feeling the fire smell all over the city. The smoke screen almost ceased to be taken as an abnormal phenomenon, because the Muscovites see it almost every day for several weeks, and, according to weather forecasts, they will have to live in the smoke until October. "


    http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2....373297&sw=1000
    After all, with the secret NATO codes Moscow got from taking down Polish Air Force One, any sort of significant Western humint on the ground in the region likely was pulled out or forced out, so we're reliant on satellite info.

    As for the fires overrunning biological warfare centers or nuke sites in any sort of dangerous way, what'd be amazing is if the West believed such a story, which most probably will. These are brush fires. If any sort of highly vulnerable site were to be overrun, I would think the Russians are savvy enough to 1. have hardened the site against NUCLEAR WAR, never mind a simple brush fire, and 2. dedicated intense fire fighting activity to protect the specific site.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Truth View Post
    I presume Russia might have stoked the fires to create an ongoing smoke screen for strategic redeployments NATO will not know about before all-out war. After all, with the secret NATO codes Moscow got from taking down Polish Air Force One, any sort of significant Western humint on the ground in the region likely was pulled out or forced out, so we're reliant on satellite info.
    Excellent point.


    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Truth View Post
    As for the fires overrunning biological warfare centers or nuke sites in any sort of dangerous way, what'd be amazing is if the West believed such a story, which most probably will. These are brush fires. If any sort of highly vulnerable site were to be overrun, I would think the Russians are savvy enough to 1. have hardened the site against NUCLEAR WAR, never mind a simple brush fire, and 2. dedicated intense fire fighting activity to protect the specific site.
    That is why I said I was concerned if Russia "claimed" sabotage from outside entities. Delberate or not, Russian or foreign, the claim could be used as an excuse for some sort of action on Russia's part.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Truth View Post
    I know many here are into the game of blindly trusting news out of Russia because you can't imagine any nation would lie to the world on such a large-scale, I just recognize that the "Old Enemy" is counting on such gullibility in militarily destroying the Western powers and conquering the world, so never take any major story delivered to you by Moscow at face value.

    http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com...f-history.html

    http://www.spiritoftruth.org/chernobyl.htm

    Sorry if this disturbs your day. You can go back to watching sports and American Idol now so your mind remains numb before our annihilation.
    I certainly hope you're not including me in that description...
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Truth View Post
    ... "After all, with the secret NATO codes Moscow got from taking down Polish Air Force One..." ...
    I'm not sure that is as much of an issue as it's being played for. Those codes are only good for one month and then the code book is replaced with an entirely new one for the next month.

    In the case of a known or suspected compromise of the code book, such as the Polish crash, all other copies of that code book are destroyed and the current month's codes are immediately replaced with the next month's code book.

    A real PITB to carry out such an emergency change-over, but plans are in place for such situations and I've had to take part in the process.

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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    may have burnt down bio-warfare factories and spewing contamination into the air.
    I envision this as being the way the apocalypse would begin... Imagine a hundred strains of new, manufactured super viruses being unleashed upon the globe all in one fell swoop.

    Of course the news could be blown way out of proportion, too. Some sensationalist reports will see mild charring on a wall and say that the facility "burnt", giving the impression that it was totally razed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildweasel View Post
    I'm not sure that is as much of an issue as it's being played for. Those codes are only good for one month and then the code book is replaced with an entirely new one for the next month.

    In the case of a known or suspected compromise of the code book, such as the Polish crash, all other copies of that code book are destroyed and the current month's codes are immediately replaced with the next month's code book.

    A real PITB to carry out such an emergency change-over, but plans are in place for such situations and I've had to take part in the process.

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    I think that was Jay's point - the downing of the Polish plane had three effects:

    1. An immediate intelligence find with great importance, but a very short shelf life. NATO would change plans as fast as possible to fog that intelligence.
    2. Russia could watch as NATO made the changes, and take notes as to what they did. More intelligence.
    3. The ability of NATO to watch Russia has been at least partially blinded, and a literal smoke screen of this might be very useful, thus REDUCING NATO's intelligence means.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSearcher View Post
    I certainly hope you're not including me in that description...
    No, Searcher, you're literally 1 in a million. That means about 300 Americans are savvy to what Russia is really up to; I think an accurate measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSearcher View Post
    I think that was Jay's point - the downing of the Polish plane had three effects:

    1. An immediate intelligence find with great importance, but a very short shelf life. NATO would change plans as fast as possible to fog that intelligence.
    2. Russia could watch as NATO made the changes, and take notes as to what they did. More intelligence.
    3. The ability of NATO to watch Russia has been at least partially blinded, and a literal smoke screen of this might be very useful, thus REDUCING NATO's intelligence means.
    More so, my sense was that when the NATO codes were compromised, Moscow gained the ability to track down intelligence sources on the ground in Russia. If this is true, or even possibly true, NATO would have had to preempt trouble by pulling out humint sources. Thus, the code compromise had the effect of substantially blinding Western intelligence gathering within Russia.

    This is my suspicion and the reason why Russia might have gone to such a radical length as to take out Poland's Air Force One. Of course, eliminating the Polish political and military high command might have been the primary pursuit, but then again maybe not. Intelligence coups can have profound impacts on the course of entire wars, and the Russians are well aware of this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Truth View Post
    More so, my sense was that when the NATO codes were compromised, Moscow gained the ability to track down intelligence sources on the ground in Russia. If this is true, or even possibly true, NATO would have had to preempt trouble by pulling out humint sources. Thus, the code compromise had the effect of substantially blinding Western intelligence gathering within Russia.

    This is my suspicion and the reason why Russia might have gone to such a radical length as to take out Poland's Air Force One. Of course, eliminating the Polish political and military high command might have been the primary pursuit, but then again maybe not. Intelligence coups can have profound impacts on the course of entire wars, and the Russians are well aware of this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
    All of that speaks to my #3 intelligence impact, the blinding of NATO. Now the literal smokescreens obscures NATO's view that much more.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Truth View Post
    No, Searcher, you're literally 1 in a million.
    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Truth View Post
    That means about 300 Americans are savvy to what Russia is really up to; I think an accurate measure.
    I suddenly feel... exposed.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSearcher View Post
    All of that speaks to my #3 intelligence impact, the blinding of NATO. Now the literal smokescreens obscures NATO's view that much more.
    This is my sense and, of course, the implication is that these are end-game developments before all-out war as intelligence goes. Yet, everyone is convinced of their "peace and safety"....imagine that.

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    One thing I'm glad about, at least, with the heat and the fires, the Ruskies have some idea of what it's like to live in Arizona!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by denfoote View Post
    One thing I'm glad about, at least, with the heat and the fires, the Ruskies have some idea of what it's like to live in Arizona!!
    It might give them some idea of what America is about to experience.

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    Russia moves rockets amid wildfires

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    Russia moves rockets amid wildfires
    Weapons were moved from a military depot to "a secure site" as the wildfires raged on [AFP] Russia's defence ministry has ordered the relocation of weapons at a military depot near the capital as raging wildfires continued to spread across the region, the Ria Novosti news agency has said.
    A defence ministry spokesman said "weapons, artillery and missiles" at the depot in Alabinsk, near Naro-Forminsk about 70 kilometres southwest of Moscow, have been transferred to a secure site "because of the danger posed by fires in the region".
    No details about the munitions involved were disclosed but the armed forces have said that a naval logistics base near Moscow had been destroyed by the ongoing inferno.
    Russian media reported as many as 200 planes may have been destroyed at the naval air base.
    News of the munitions move came a day after the Kremlin ordered tighter security at military and strategic locations in light of the fires raging in central and western Russia.
    Almost 600 fires were reported burning in Russia on Thursday, with the death toll from the fires now standing at 50.
    Meanwhile officials a day earlier announced the transfer of material from the Sarov nuclear facility, 500 kilometres east of the capital, where nuclear weapons are assembled.
    Volunteer teams
    Temperatures up to 38 Celsius have exacerbated forest and peat bog fires across Russia's central and western regions, destroying close to 2,000 homes.
    Thick smog that had blanketed Moscow has partially lifted but could return with no end in sight to a record heat wave, officials warned on Thursday.
    Hundreds of fires were reportedly burning across central and western Russia [EPA] The forecast for the week ahead shows little change in the capital and surrounding regions, with officials suggesting the 10,000 firefighters battling the blazes are insufficient.
    In the blaze-ravaged village of Plotava, 60km east of Moscow, Viktor Sorokin, a local official, lamented that the number of fire wardens in woodland and peat bog areas had halved to 150 in the last few years under new rules.
    "There used to be more of them, now there aren't enough," he said.
    Some locals are taking the initiative to make up the shortfall in firefighters.
    "We woke up several days ago and we couldn't breathe," said Alexander Babayev, a 27-year-old owner of a drive-in theatre, before taking a hose to low rising flames flickering above the smoldering ground.
    Babayev assembled a team of volunteers using a social networking website and, after a few instructions from professionals, they began tending to fires.
    Continuing threat
    In Sarov, firefighters have focused on beating flames back from the top-secret Russian Federal Nuclear Research Centre.
    A Sarov news website on Thursday cited local officials as saying a wall of fire had been broken down into several smaller blazes.
    The officials said the closest blaze was still several kilometres from the research facilities and as a precaution all hazardous materials had been evacuated.
    On Wednesday, Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian president, sacked several officers over the failure to stop the wildfires.
    Medvedev criticised Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky, the head of the Russian navy, and his deputy Alexander Tatarinov, over "incomplete professional responsibility" in tackling a fire last week.
    The president cut short his traditional summer break in the southern resort of Sochi and returned to Moscow to chair an emergency meeting of the national security council on the fire disaster.
    Sergei Shoigu, the country's emergencies minister, said Russia has been sent helicopters and planes to help douse the flames from Ukraine, Armenia, Italy, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan.

    The wildfires have not been restricted to Russia, with forest fires continuing to burn in the western part of Georgia, near Turkey.

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    Some very interesting possibilities in this thread. I appreciate those whose thinking goes way beyond my understanding of this situation. I'll be mulling over these thoughts and watching for more info from the watchers here. Thanks.

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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...130481884.html


    Fires Still Burning Around Moscow

    By WILLIAM MAULDIN and JACOB GRONHOLT-PEDERSEN

    MOSCOW—Russia's Emergency Situations Minister said fires raging outside of Moscow would be put out in the next five to seven days, as smoke and deteriorating air quality continued to torment the capital.
    Malodorous smoke continued to blanket Moscow on Monday, with visibility of only 300 meters in the vertical direction at Domodedovo International Airport and temperature forecast to hit 35 degrees Celsius (95 degrees Fahrenheit) in the city. Road traffic, usually rated among the world's worst, was extremely light after many residents fled the city and others worked from home.
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    AFP/Getty Images Passenger planes are seen blanketed by forest fire smog on the runway at Domodedovo airport in Moscow on Monday.




    The U.S. Embassy in Moscow said it would halt some operations as a smoky haze hung over central Russia. Visa interviews were canceled, although other embassy functions, including services for U.S. citizens, continued, the embassy said.
    Smoke from burning forest fires and smoldering underground peat has covered much of the European part of the country in recent days. There are still over 500 forest and peat-bog fires in Russia covering over 420,100 acres, Interfax news agency reported, citing the Emergency Situations Ministry.
    Russia's abnormally high temperatures and drought have also wreaked havoc on grain crops, leading to an export ban that has boosted world prices.
    Russian wheat producers have asked the government to extend a deadline banning exports, saying port terminals don't have enough capacity to ship all wheat destined for export before the ban takes effect Sunday.
    Farmers may not be able to sow their winter crop in time due to dry weather and financial problems, the Russian Grain Union said. "As it looks now, nothing can be sown in large parts of Russia. The soil is simply too dry," said Anton Sharapin, a spokesman for the union.
    Russia, the world's third-biggest grower of wheat, is enduring severe drought and record heat that are damaging large areas of crops. "Much depends on the rain," said Mr. Sharapin. Farmers can sow the crop in a limited period from the end of August to the beginning of September.
    The country's grain harvest could fall to as low as 60 million tons this year due to extreme heat and drought, and next year's production could also be affected, the country's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Monday.
    Russia's Agricultural Ministry cut its forecast for the country's 2010 grain output for the third time this summer to between 60 million and 65 million tons, Mr. Putin said on state television. Last week, Mr. Putin shocked international markets by placing a ban on grain exports starting Aug. 15. The news caused world wheat prices to soar and underscored the risk of a broad shock to the global food supply.
    Despite officials later saying the export ban could be revised once the harvest has been completed, Mr. Putin said the ban, that runs through Dec. 31, won't be lifted in the near future.
    "There is no need to count on a quick removal of the export ban, although it is, of course, a desperate measure," Mr. Putin said. "We are currently in a state of emergency and must first of all take care of our own citizens and agricultural producers."
    The grain union said many farmers whose harvests are affected by the drought have financial problems and simply can't afford to plant winter crops. Their financial hardship was made worse after the government last week placed a ban on grain exports from Aug. 15., Mr. Sharapin said.
    In Moscow, the death rate from the heat and smoke has risen to about twice as high as normal in recent days, officials said Monday. Last month, nearly 50% more Muscovites died than a year earlier, city officials confirmed last week. It wasn't immediately clear whether authorities could conclusively link the heat and smoke to the higher death rate.
    City authorities on Sunday opened 123 air-conditioned rooms to allow residents to escape the smoky haze.
    Fires near a nuclear research facility in the city of Sarov are being slowly contained, battled by 3,717 people, the Emergency Situations Ministry said.
    Fires in the Tatarstan, Vladimir, Mordovia, Lipetsk and Belgorod regions have been extinguished, the officials said.

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    Russia fires pose nuclear threat

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    Russia fires pose nuclear threat

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    The Russian government warned on Thursday (6 August) that raging wildfires could pose a nuclear threat to neighbouring countries, with the natural disaster already spilling across Russian borders in terms of food markets.
    Russian emergencies minister Sergei Shoigu said heat from fires in the Bryansk region near the frontier with Belarus and Ukraine, which was contaminated following the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, could release harmful radioactive particles into the atmosphere.
    Chernobyl - Heat from fires near the frontier with Belarus and Ukraine, which was contaminated following the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, could release harmful radioactive particles i (Photo: Ratcliff, Trey)

    "In the event of a fire there, radionuclides could rise [into the air] together with combustion particles, resulting in a new pollution zone," he explained on national television.
    Russia earlier this week removed radioactive material from the Sarov nuclear weapons research centre in the Nizhny Novgorod region as a precaution.
    It also shifted conventional artillery rockets from a garrison near Naro-Fominsk, southwest of Moscow.
    The fires, which have already killed 50 people, have also destroyed millions of hectares of crops, leaving Russians in doubt on food security as wheat prices continue to rise.
    Russia wants to tame domestic prices by banning grain sales abroad from 15 August to 31 December, in what is the international grain market's fourth largest exporter. The ban is to apply to exports of maslin, rye, corn, barley, wheat and rye flour.
    "We shouldn't allow domestic prices in Russia to rise, and we need to preserve our cattle and build up supplies for next year," Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Thursday while announcing the ban.
    Mr Putin also proposed that Kazakhstan and Belarus, Russia's partners in a tentative customs union, should join the ban.
    The announcement sent wheat prices to a two-year high on the international commodities market.
    The Russian agriculture ministry has recently lowered the country's 2010 grain harvest forecast to between 70 million and 75 million tonnes. The previous forecasts were between 85 million and 90 million tonnes.
    The zone of high pressure above Russia which has caused the fires is also affecting weather in central Europe and is responsible for high rainfall in other parts of the region since early May, the Financial Times reported.
    The rainfall has caused flooding in Hungary, Slovakia and Romania, leaving more than 300 homes damaged beyond repair in Hungary and at least 20 dead in Romania.
    Floods are also affecting the local agricultural industry. Hungary's wheat harvest is reportedly 20 percent down on last year. Slovakia's farmers also expect below average yields.

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    Russian fires are 'world disaster'

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/190654.stm

    Russian fires are 'world disaster'

    Forest fires are still burning in eastern Russia

    The scale of the damage caused by recent forest fires in Russia's Far East amounts to a world-wide ecological disaster, a United Nations team has said. The Russian news agency, Itar-Tass, said the team was shocked by the destruction it saw on the island of Sakhalin and the vast region of Khabarovsk near the border with China.
    The experts said the damage would have far-reaching consequences not only for neighbouring countries, but for the entire northern hemisphere.
    The head of the team, Vladimir Sakhorov, said the UN was seeking further funding to tackle the devastation.
    "We are convinced that such fires must be fought not only through efforts at the local level but also through moves by Federal authorities of Russia, as well as with assistance from other countries," he said.
    More than 1.5 million hectares of taiga, the coniferous forest-land characteristic of Siberia, have been destroyed since the fires began early this year. Two-thirds of Sakhalin Island has been affected by the blazes, which have killed three people and left 700 homeless.
    In many places fires are still raging, despite snow and rain. Heavy smoke is preventing air surveys from being carried out and there has been difficulty finding sufficient funds to tackle the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twincougars View Post
    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/eu...215744896.html

    Russia moves rockets amid wildfires
    Weapons were moved from a military depot to "a secure site" as the wildfires raged on [AFP] Russia's defence ministry has ordered the relocation of weapons at a military depot near the capital as raging wildfires continued to spread across the region, the Ria Novosti news agency has said.
    A defence ministry spokesman said "weapons, artillery and missiles" at the depot in Alabinsk, near Naro-Forminsk about 70 kilometres southwest of Moscow, have been transferred to a secure site "because of the danger posed by fires in the region".
    No details about the munitions involved were disclosed but the armed forces have said that a naval logistics base near Moscow had been destroyed by the ongoing inferno.
    Russian media reported as many as 200 planes may have been destroyed at the naval air base.
    News of the munitions move came a day after the Kremlin ordered tighter security at military and strategic locations in light of the fires raging in central and western Russia.
    Almost 600 fires were reported burning in Russia on Thursday, with the death toll from the fires now standing at 50.
    Meanwhile officials a day earlier announced the transfer of material from the Sarov nuclear facility, 500 kilometres east of the capital, where nuclear weapons are assembled.
    Volunteer teams
    Temperatures up to 38 Celsius have exacerbated forest and peat bog fires across Russia's central and western regions, destroying close to 2,000 homes.
    Thick smog that had blanketed Moscow has partially lifted but could return with no end in sight to a record heat wave, officials warned on Thursday.
    Hundreds of fires were reportedly burning across central and western Russia [EPA] The forecast for the week ahead shows little change in the capital and surrounding regions, with officials suggesting the 10,000 firefighters battling the blazes are insufficient.
    In the blaze-ravaged village of Plotava, 60km east of Moscow, Viktor Sorokin, a local official, lamented that the number of fire wardens in woodland and peat bog areas had halved to 150 in the last few years under new rules.
    "There used to be more of them, now there aren't enough," he said.
    Some locals are taking the initiative to make up the shortfall in firefighters.
    "We woke up several days ago and we couldn't breathe," said Alexander Babayev, a 27-year-old owner of a drive-in theatre, before taking a hose to low rising flames flickering above the smoldering ground.
    Babayev assembled a team of volunteers using a social networking website and, after a few instructions from professionals, they began tending to fires.
    Continuing threat
    In Sarov, firefighters have focused on beating flames back from the top-secret Russian Federal Nuclear Research Centre.
    A Sarov news website on Thursday cited local officials as saying a wall of fire had been broken down into several smaller blazes.
    The officials said the closest blaze was still several kilometres from the research facilities and as a precaution all hazardous materials had been evacuated.
    On Wednesday, Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian president, sacked several officers over the failure to stop the wildfires.
    Medvedev criticised Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky, the head of the Russian navy, and his deputy Alexander Tatarinov, over "incomplete professional responsibility" in tackling a fire last week.
    The president cut short his traditional summer break in the southern resort of Sochi and returned to Moscow to chair an emergency meeting of the national security council on the fire disaster.
    Sergei Shoigu, the country's emergencies minister, said Russia has been sent helicopters and planes to help douse the flames from Ukraine, Armenia, Italy, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan.

    The wildfires have not been restricted to Russia, with forest fires continuing to burn in the western part of Georgia, near Turkey.
    Very interesting.

    So the bottom line is quantities of military equipment are moving around to unknown destinations and/or may have been destroyed although we can't tell for sure.

    Jeepers these fires are a blessing if for some reason the Kremlin wanted to surreptitiously reposition strategic military assets and/or feign their demise.

    Oh....but it's SO politically incorrect and paranoid to suspect the Russians of such a brazen deception...

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    Russia fires pose nuclear threat

    06.08.2010

    The Russian government warned on Thursday (6 August) that raging wildfires could pose a nuclear threat to neighbouring countries, with the natural disaster already spilling across Russian borders in terms of food markets.

    Russian emergencies minister Sergei Shoigu said heat from fires in the Bryansk region near the frontier with Belarus and Ukraine, which was contaminated following the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, could release harmful radioactive particles into the atmosphere.

    Russia earlier this week removed radioactive material from the Sarov nuclear weapons research centre in the Nizhny Novgorod region as a precaution.

    It also shifted conventional artillery rockets from a garrison near Naro-Fominsk, southwest of Moscow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Truth View Post
    Very interesting.

    So the bottom line is quantities of military equipment are moving around to unknown destinations and/or may have been destroyed although we can't tell for sure.

    Jeepers these fires are a blessing if for some reason the Kremlin wanted to surreptitiously reposition strategic military assets and/or feign their demise.

    Oh....but it's SO politically incorrect and paranoid to suspect the Russians of such a brazen deception...
    That's what I was just mulling over... Even if this was NOT a planned event, it surely helps Russia do a lot of stuff we can't see.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Picked up some chatter about them losing number of military aircraft that was on the ground, can't what it was but I bet it was co$tly.

    Yahoo news has posted! Moscow is reporting deaths of 700 per-day from as a result of these fires.

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    STRATFOR (POSTED WITH PERMISSION)


    Drought, Fire and Grain in Russia


    By Lauren Goodrich | August 10, 2010
    Three interlocking crises are striking Russia simultaneously: the highest recorded temperatures Russia has seen in 130 years of recordkeeping; the most widespread drought in more than three decades; and massive wildfires that have stretched across seven regions, including Moscow.
    The crises threaten the wheat harvest in Russia, which is one of the world’s largest wheat exporters. Russia is no stranger to having drought affect its wheat crop, a commodity of critical importance to Moscow’s domestic tranquility and foreign policy. Despite the severity of the heat, drought, and wildfires, Moscow’s wheat output will cover Russia’s domestic needs. Russia will also use the situation to merge its neighbors into a grain cartel. Read more »

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    Picked up some chatter about them losing number of military aircraft that was on the ground, can't what it was but I bet it was co$tly.

    Yahoo news has posted! Moscow is reporting deaths of 700 per-day from as a result of these fires.
    I wonder why they wouldn't just fly them off to somewhere else before the fire got to them?

    Doesn't add up.....

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    weapons arsenals - warehouses of chemical and bacteriological weapons burning

    Radiation, plague, and fires: foreign embassies urgently evacuate staff from Russia

    Publication time: 7 August 2010, 13:52

    A hasty evacuation of diplomatic staff from foreign embassies, like a stampede, began in Moscow. Many embassies are trying to hide the evacuation for political reasons. Mass evacuation of the embassies of Canada and Poland was officially reported at night on August 7.

    Western media meanwhile reported that the Canadian embassy in Moscow was closed. Dutch embassy is urgently evacuating its diplomatic staff from Russia.

    High level of air pollution (see photo), as one of the consequences of forest fires, has become an official ground for evacuating embassy staff and their family members.

    Unofficially, they speak about plague in Russia, but first of all, about sharply elevated radioactive background in the city, caused by destruction of atomic bombs in fires at nuclear weapons arsenals outside Moscow. According to unofficial information, warehouses of chemical and bacteriological weapons were also burnt down.

    The final decision on immediate evacuation of foreign diplomats from Russia was made after the ringleader of the Russian terrorist gang Disaster Ministry, Shoigu, said that "the level of radiation may increase in Bryansk region because of fires" (the soil there is still very strongly contaminated by Chernobyl).

    Sophisticated diplomats immediately understood the diplomatic slang, familiar to them, and rushed to pack baggage, Russian media reported.

    Early in the morning of 7 August, the escape of foreign diplomats from Russia took epidemic proportions. It is possible that the diplomats, through the intelligence services of their countries, know something that is not yet known to the general public.

    Germany officially closed its embassy and evacuated the entire staff from the doomed Russian Empire, media outlets reported. Austria, along with Poland and Canada, is evacuating almost all its staff from Russia. Foreign embassies addressed to their citizens got stuck in the country to leave Russia as soon as possible.

    A Hamburg newspaper, Die Welt, reported in a clear text format that the urgent flee of German diplomats from Russia was caused by radiation approaching Moscow.

    The radiation, according to the newspaper, comes from facilities for the production of atomic bombs (400 km east of Moscow) burning in Sarov. Emission of radiation in the environment continues.

    On the territory "of the atomic research center," as this plant is officially called, two fires are still raging, the newspaper writes. Russians cannot conceal facts, since fires are perfectly visible from satellites.

    Naturally, the evacuation affected all, without exception, embassies in Moscow, but most of them reported nothing for political reasons. The case is very serious, and certainly it is not related to the smog and fumes.

    Meanwhile, governments of civilized countries warned their citizens not to go in any case to Russia gripped by a full set of traditional natural and unnatural calamities.

    The Austrian Embassy in Moscow appealed to all Austrian citizens in Russia to leave the country immediately. All Austrian diplomats are urgently leaving Russia. Only minor staff without diplomatic status will remain at the embassy. Naturally, there will be no one issuing visas to Russians.

    The US State Department warned Americans that a trip and staying in Russia is a mortal threat to their life. The corresponding notification was circulated on Friday by the Bureau of Consular Affairs of the US State Department. The statement reads:

    "The US State Department warns American citizens about the risks involved in traveling to Russia due to wildfires there and their impact on safety, air quality, and transportation".

    The statement noted that fires and "high temperatures" in the central part of Russia produced "hazardous levels of air pollution and numerous flight delays and cancellations in Moscow".

    Americans traveling to these areas of Russia are advised to cancel the trip. US citizens with heart or lung disease who are already inside the giant area of natural disasters, which now represents the whole Russia, are advised to avoid unnecessary outdoor staying and strenuous physical loads.

    The current alert warning will remain in force until September 5, when the situation in Russia, as the US stipulates, relaxes as far as fires are concerned, because there'll be left nothing to burn. The situation would remain unpredictable regarding plague and radiation.

    Foreign Ministries of Germany, Bulgaria: France, Italy and other countries also appealed to their citizens not to travel to Russia.

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    "Unofficially, they speak about plague in Russia, but first of all, about sharply elevated radioactive background in the city, caused by destruction of atomic bombs in fires at nuclear weapons arsenals outside Moscow. According to unofficial information, warehouses of chemical and bacteriological weapons were also burnt down."

    Sorry, not buying it. The reporting on this story is bugging me. A lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Truth View Post
    It might give them some idea of what America is about to experience.
    There's no doubt in my mind that America is headed for the same fate as Sodom and Gomorrah.

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    What an amazing picture.

    There are no accidents.

    THAT is either a set shot with intent and purpose or it's a sign of what is to come.

    It's either a warning to the US by a well intentioned Russian journalist or a warning to the US God, Himself. I suppose that either way it's the same thing.

    I'm paying attention.

    Thanks J.

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    No sweat, Putin is in charge!

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    I'll put this on the other thread too; click the link if you want to read about it more:

    # Fires in Russian regions covered with fallout from 1986 Chernobyl disaster could be emitting radioactive smoke - NYT http://nyti.ms/dfdnIv

    less than 20 seconds ago via breakingnews.com
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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin

    Burning Russia battles to defend nuclear plants


    Posted 18 minutes ago

    Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin has taken to the air in a water-bombing plane as Russia fights a deadly battle to prevent wildfires from engulfing key nuclear sites.

    Two soldiers were killed by blazing trees as they strove to put out a fire dangerously close to Russia's main nuclear research centre, while workers were also mobilised to fight blazes near a nuclear reprocessing plant.

    After almost two weeks of fires that have claimed over 50 lives and part destroyed a military storage site, authorities said they were making progress in fighting fires that still covered 174,035 hectares of land.

    Mr Putin visited the Ryazan region south of Moscow, one of the worst hit, and jumped into a Be-200 jet to scoop up water from local lakes and then dump it on the fires.

    State television showed Mr Putin, headphones clamped against his ears, confidently taking the co-pilot's controls as the plane zoomed over the water.

    "We hit it," said Putin as his colleagues confirmed the water had struck the target.

    The emergencies ministry said that over the past 24 hours, 247 new fires had appeared, more than the 239 had been put out, and 557 fires were still raging across the affected region.

    The authorities have come under pressure to explain the magnitude of effects of the heatwave, which meteorologists have said is the worst in the 1,000-year history of Russia.


    The head of forestry for the Moscow region, Sergei Gordeichenko, was sacked after President Dmitry Medvedev noted he had stayed on holiday as the fires burned, a spokesman told AFP.

    "He was awaited but he never came... Why do we need such forest specialists? Let them take their holidays on the Canary Islands," Mr Medvedev said.

    'Death of a hero'

    The two members of the Russian armed forces killed on Monday were fighting wildfires around Russia's main nuclear research centre in Sarov, a town in the Nizhny Novgorod region still closed to foreigners as in Soviet times.

    Rifle battalion member Vasily Tezetev, 22, "died the death of a hero" while dealing with the fire burning in a nature reserve close to the town, the local emergency centre said.

    Vasily Veshkin, 27, who usually worked at a local prison camp, died fighting the fire on the same day, it added.

    Both were killed when they were hit by burning parts of trees that fell to the ground.

    Meanwhile, officials said fires burning within 15 kilometres of Snezhinsk in the Urals, home to another of Russia's top nuclear research centres, had been reduced to a five-hectare area and there was no risk for the town.

    The acrid smog from wildfires 100 kilometres out in the countryside that descended over Moscow eased Tuesday but forecasters said the air quality was still dangerously poor.

    Moscow authorities acknowledged for the first time on Monday that the daily mortality rate in the city had doubled and morgues were overflowing with bodies, but the federal government has yet to confirm those figures.

    Carbon monoxide in the Moscow air was 1.4 times higher than acceptable levels on Tuesday, the state pollution watchdog said, a slight improvement from the day before. On Saturday they had been an alarming 6.6 times worse.

    The heatwave has had a huge impact on all areas of Russian society and economists have warned the record temperatures could have cost the country up to $15 billion and undercut a modest economic revival.

    Worst hit has been agriculture, which has seen 10 million hectares of land destroyed.

    - AFP

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    I presume Russia might have stoked the fires to create an ongoing smoke screen for strategic redeployments NATO will not know about before all-out war.
    I've invited a internet friend to post on this thread who is well versed in research about Putin and Russia, and the visceral stratagems they are capable of. Hope she comes over here as a regular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mt4design View Post


    What an amazing picture.

    There are no accidents.

    THAT is either a set shot with intent and purpose or it's a sign of what is to come.

    It's either a warning to the US by a well intentioned Russian journalist or a warning to the US God, Himself. I suppose that either way it's the same thing.

    I'm paying attention.

    Thanks J.

    Mike
    You're welcome, but...

    The shot is most likely a staged compliments of Russian intelligence selling a story to the West. That's not a well-intentioned journalist. That's someone that sold their soul to the devil IMHO.

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    hook

    in nose.

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