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    SITUATIONAL AWARENESS 101

    As we have all become aware recently, our safety and security concerns have been receiving much-needed attention. With this in mind, we can all contribute to our personal safety by paying attention to our surroundings--landscape, people, objects, vehicles, etc.

    In this first scenario, I will point out how to fine-tune your situational awareness. You are going shopping at a single-storey mall with several big-name stores and numerous smaller shops inside of the one main building.

    You enter the car park and then circle the outside perimeter of the mall; you will be looking at how many shops have outside entrances or read exits.

    You will also be looking for suspicious persons, groups or vehicles. We pretty much know what a suspicious person and vehicle looks like on TB2K, so further detail is not necessary unless requested.

    Once you park and secure your vehicle, you enter the mall. The first shop you see is Hot Topic (for instance) and you already know they have an exterior door that leads to the car park. You visually scan the persons who are in your area; do they have heavy coats on and it's 95 degrees? A long coat will conceal a rifle or a bomb vest.

    You pass by the Hot Topic and see a small novelty shop that you do not recall having an exterior door. You want to shop in that store so you search for the alternate exit. If there is no secondary exit, you determine what solid object you can take cover behind.

    You DO keep your children with you. Sorry, but that's the way it goes these days.

    Make certain you know where your closest exit is. Most people will retreat to the area where they entered the mall. If that is the closest exit, you choose that unless it has become blocked/ If that occurs, go to the next shop where know there is a secondary exit, unless it takes you into the line of fire.

    For shopping areas, there are several key points to consider:

    1. Suspicious persons or packages left unattended.
    2. Identify your closest exit.
    3. Identify a sturdy object under or behind which you can take cover.
    4. Keep your head up, you become less of a target by maintaining a posture of awareness.
    5. If you spot someone or something that arouses your suspicions, notify the nearest clerk you see.
    6. Maintain a visual "sweeping" of the premises and remain alert for what seems out-of-the-ordinary for you.
    7. Do not just observe your surroundings, but assess and comprehend them.

    Sorry, this is a brief start on one scenario, and others will add to this and create new scenarios. I will update this first scenario tomorrow.

    Maureen
    Last edited by MaureenO; 07-18-2007 at 03:27 AM.
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    having worked at a mall, i need to say that every single store has some sort of exit, even if they share one with a couple stores connected by a hallway running behind them all. The SPCA Adoption Center I worked at shared one with several small stores. This info might save your life.

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    Just a comment as I need to get breakfast for the bride..I'll be back...

    The tunnel that the back door of a lot of smaller shops leads to may well be NOT where you want to be in case it's anything MORE than a simple active shooter scenario.

    In MANY malls that tunnel is LONG, and the exit is a WAYS away with several turns before you get there....If it's a SIMPLE active shooter scenario by all means go back into the tunnel and wend your way to daylight, but be PREPARED for the actual EXIT to be a hike from where you enter the tunnel....*I* will not be using tunnels in 3 or 4 of my local malls as they are WAY too much a Fatal Funnel Scenario for my liking.
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    OOoooKay! back.


    Situational Awareness starts as you get dressed to walk out the door.

    If you can do so, now would be the time to start carrying your weapon 24-7. If you have a spouse, the two of you should be checking each other to see if your "slip is showing" as it were. RELIC and I do challenge each other to determine whether or not either one of us is carrying...

    With my current weight structure the Glock 22 doesn't print anywhere, and the Charter which has been my EDC (when I carry) for eons hides even better. I'm not advocating violating any laws here so you need to be aware of what your state allows. You also need to have been to a range recently so you are comfy with what makes your EDC go BANG, and so you are comfy with what happens when it DOES go BANG. Enough said on that because it COULD become a whole thread....

    So, once you get dressed, you put on your Color of the Day. If you are SERIOUS about your Situational Awareness you put at LEAST YELLOW on which means that you are pretty much ready to handle most untoward things, and won't be standinig there slack jawed thingking "this can't be happening" as the gobblin points a rather long finger at you....or your loved ones. or the guy next to you.'


    Living in YELLOW means looking around and being ready to react if needed but NOT stressed tightly.

    Living in ORANGE means that you are expectant of some kind of attack and are actively looking for it every minute of the day. You want to live in YELLOW, really. ORANGE is WAY too tiring to live in 24/7/365. Ask me. When they put a Contract out on your Wife you live in ORANGE for a LONG time...until it gets bought off...or otherwise fixed.. but I digress.


    You want to live in YELLOW since that is an expectant, but not wired tight mind set. You are aware of your surroundings, and aware that they can change and that you WILL have to react/respond to that change.


    SO.

    You have put on the Color of the Day, and now it's time to go outside.

    At this point you start looking around....Is everything around your home the same as it always is?? Kids toys and "stuff" in the yards around your home and the neighbors' homes? Are there any different kids or "kids" hanging around? is the traffic on your street normal? or Heavier than usual or lighter than usual?
    Did you listen to the radio to hear about traffic delays on the way to work or wherever you are going?? NO?? Shame on you...start THAT habit TODAY...

    Walk to the bus?? Is the 'hood normal?? On the bus, is the ride in to work normal, anything out of place, or odd on the way in?? You need to start looking TODAY to KNOW what is Normal so that in the coming days you can identify an abnormality.

    Get to work, is the work location normal? the usual street vendors selling the usual morning stuff?? the shoe shine guy in the lobby the usual guy? the lobby coffee shop normal? etc etc.


    When you go to lunch look around the work building as you go. Is everything the way it usually is? Any unusual vans or trucks parked in odd places? Are the street vendors the usual lunch vendors with the usual fare???

    When you get back to your desk, do you have your bottle of water, protein bar, walking shoes and a change of sox in your drawer? Do you know what the FASTEST way out is, the safest? Can you walk home with what you have in your desk?

    On the way home, on the bus or driving, is everything normal on the way?? Unusual trucks parked anywhere?

    When you get home and you go out to eat, watch for oddities and KNOW WHAT IS ODD.

    Once you are seated in the restaurant, can you get out fast?? What IS the fastest way out if they come in the front door? the back door? Do you know if you can go out the front window? Locked you say?? You are sitting on the key, you toss your chair through the window and exit. AS long as you aren't crossing the gobblins' line of fire (and on the ground floor)....Who knows, you may lead the whole restaurant out that way.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++


    What happens if any of the "are these things normal?" questions come back "NO!!!" What do you do then??

    You call the police in the area. It is YOUR decision as to 9-1-1 or the non-emergency number if you know it (you ought to for the municipalities you spend a lot of time in, BTW) but 9-1-1 is ALWAYS appropriate. tell the operator/dispatcher what you have seen that is odd. TELL him or her WHY it's odd and THAT it's odd. Then they get to deal with it.


    ++++++++++++++++


    Start walking around the block at home.

    Make mental notes of the deserted houses, where cars ought NOT be parked, and if there are cars parked there but it STILL looks deserted let the local constabulary know that there is something out of the ordinary there. If you have an industrial area in your 'hood, get to recognize what is normal for activity there. If it starts to look odd, call the constables and let them know. Do NOT hesitate to call....I once saw 2 suburbans sitting up watching the train tracks in my neighborhood... I completed my walk around the block and they were still there an hour later (6 mile block),,,damn straight I called my local LEO's because there wasn't ANYTHING on the Suburbans that said N&W on it and they checked em out.



    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++===


    GET TO KNOW WHAT IS "NORMAL" NOW AND WATCH FOR CHANGES.

    EVERYWHERE YOU GO KNOW HOW TO GET OUT QUICKLY AND SAFELY.

    HAVE A PHONE WITH YOU OR KNOW WHERE THE NEAREST ONE IS SO YOU CAN CALL IF SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT.

    AND CARRY YOUR DAMN GUN (legally).


    chuck
    Last edited by night driver; 07-18-2007 at 07:34 AM. Reason: because the spellcheck module did NOT ocme with these fingres...
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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    OOoooKay! back.


    Situational Awareness starts as you get dressed to walk out the door.

    If you can do so, now would be the time to start carrying your weapon 24-7. If you have a spouse, the two of you should be checking each other to see if your "slip is showing" as it were. RELIC and I do challenge each other to determine whether or not either one of us is carrying...

    With my current weight structure the Glock 22 doesn't print anywhere, and the Charter which has been my EDC (when I carry) for eons hides even better. I'm not advocating violating any laws here so you need to be aware of what your state allows. You also need to have been to a range recently so you are comfy with what makes your EDC go BANG, and so you are comfy with what happens when it DOES go BANG. Enough said on that because it COULD become a whole thread....

    So, once you get dressed, you put on your Color of the Day. If you are SERIOUS about your Situational Awareness you put at LEAST YELLOW on which means that you are pretty much ready to handle most untoward things, and won't be standinig there slack jawed thingking "this can't be happening" as the gobblin points a rather long finger at you....or your loved ones. or the guy next to you.'


    Living in YELLOW means looking around and being ready to react if needed but NOT stressed tightly.

    Living in ORANGE means that you are expectant of some kind of attack and are actively looking for it every minute of the day. You want to live in YELLOW, really. ORANGE is WAY too tiring to live in 24/7/365. Ask me. When they put a Contract out on your Wife you live in ORANGE for a LONG time...until it gets bought off...or otherwise fixed.. but I digress.
    I would avoid "living" in any color specifically. In an inner city, "Living" in a color can get you killed.

    Yellow, red, black, blue, orange, green are all gang related colors and if you are caught all clad out in one color or another and it happens to be the "wrong" color for your area, you are a sitting target asking for trouble. The point is to blend in and not draw attention to yourself.

    So dress is also dependent on locale. Make sure you are aware of the "uniform" of your area. Don't dress in a business suit with tie to go shopping at Walmart if you are in a farming community. You'll stick out like a sore thumb.

    Also, don't go to a formal place dressed in your gardening (street) clothes either, you will also stick out.

    If you are wearing colors, make sure they are mixed, or not looking obvious that they are gang related. I.e. no color bandanas, solid t-shirts, or hats worn backwards. Also pay attention if there are known gangs in your area and what their dress code is and what the enemies are. Some of them use NFL or NBA teams as their "colors", so be aware of that as well.
    Last edited by bethshaya; 03-25-2008 at 01:00 PM.

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    bethshaya, I am pretty sure you misunderstood what we were discussing in terms of colors.....


    When I posted the above, I was using Col. Cooper's color coding system in which the different colors represent different mindsets, and preparation sets, not the color of your clothing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bethshaya View Post
    I would avoid "living" in any color specifically. In an inner city, "Living" in a color can get you killed.

    Yellow, red, black, blue, orange, green are all gang related colors and if you are caught all clad out in one color or another and it happens to be the "wrong" color for your area, you are a sitting target asking for trouble. The point is to blend in and not draw attention to yourself.

    So dress is also dependent on locale. Make sure you are aware of the "uniform" of your area. Don't dress in a business suit with tie to go shopping at Walmart if you are in a farming community. You'll stick out like a sore thumb.

    Also, don't go to a formal place dressed all sloppy either, you will also stick out.

    If you are wearing colors, make sure they are mixed, or not looking obvious that they are gang related. I.e. no color bandanas, solid t-shirts, or hats worn backwards. Also pay attention if there are known gangs in your area and what their dress code is and what the enemies are.


    Did you segway from the Color alert status ....to clothing colors to avoid based on gang affiliation? It wasn't entirely clear how we got from one topic to another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    OOoooKay! back.
    what is an EDC?? dont be knowin no codes bro sheeeeet

    Situational Awareness starts as you get dressed to walk out the door.

    If you can do so, now would be the time to start carrying your weapon 24-7. If you have a spouse, the two of you should be checking each other to see if your "slip is showing" as it were. RELIC and I do challenge each other to determine whether or not either one of us is carrying...

    With my current weight structure the Glock 22 doesn't print anywhere, and the Charter which has been my EDC (when I carry) for eons hides even better. I'm not advocating violating any laws here so you need to be aware of what your state allows. You also need to have been to a range recently so you are comfy with what makes your EDC go BANG, and so you are comfy with what happens when it DOES go BANG. Enough said on that because it COULD become a whole thread....

    So, once you get dressed, you put on your Color of the Day. If you are SERIOUS about your Situational Awareness you put at LEAST YELLOW on which means that you are pretty much ready to handle most untoward things, and won't be standinig there slack jawed thingking "this can't be happening" as the gobblin points a rather long finger at you....or your loved ones. or the guy next to you.'


    Living in YELLOW means looking around and being ready to react if needed but NOT stressed tightly.

    Living in ORANGE means that you are expectant of some kind of attack and are actively looking for it every minute of the day. You want to live in YELLOW, really. ORANGE is WAY too tiring to live in 24/7/365. Ask me. When they put a Contract out on your Wife you live in ORANGE for a LONG time...until it gets bought off...or otherwise fixed.. but I digress.


    You want to live in YELLOW since that is an expectant, but not wired tight mind set. You are aware of your surroundings, and aware that they can change and that you WILL have to react/respond to that change.


    SO.

    You have put on the Color of the Day, and now it's time to go outside.

    At this point you start looking around....Is everything around your home the same as it always is?? Kids toys and "stuff" in the yards around your home and the neighbors' homes? Are there any different kids or "kids" hanging around? is the traffic on your street normal? or Heavier than usual or lighter than usual?
    Did you listen to the radio to hear about traffic delays on the way to work or wherever you are going?? NO?? Shame on you...start THAT habit TODAY...

    Walk to the bus?? Is the 'hood normal?? On the bus, is the ride in to work normal, anything out of place, or odd on the way in?? You need to start looking TODAY to KNOW what is Normal so that in the coming days you can identify an abnormality.

    Get to work, is the work location normal? the usual street vendors selling the usual morning stuff?? the shoe shine guy in the lobby the usual guy? the lobby coffee shop normal? etc etc.


    When you go to lunch look around the work building as you go. Is everything the way it usually is? Any unusual vans or trucks parked in odd places? Are the street vendors the usual lunch vendors with the usual fare???

    When you get back to your desk, do you have your bottle of water, protein bar, walking shoes and a change of sox in your drawer? Do you know what the FASTEST way out is, the safest? Can you walk home with what you have in your desk?

    On the way home, on the bus or driving, is everything normal on the way?? Unusual trucks parked anywhere?

    When you get home and you go out to eat, watch for oddities and KNOW WHAT IS ODD.

    Once you are seated in the restaurant, can you get out fast?? What IS the fastest way out if they come in the front door? the back door? Do you know if you can go out the front window? Locked you say?? You are sitting on the key, you toss your chair through the window and exit. AS long as you aren't crossing the gobblins' line of fire (and on the ground floor)....Who knows, you may lead the whole restaurant out that way.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++


    What happens if any of the "are these things normal?" questions come back "NO!!!" What do you do then??

    You call the police in the area. It is YOUR decision as to 9-1-1 or the non-emergency number if you know it (you ought to for the municipalities you spend a lot of time in, BTW) but 9-1-1 is ALWAYS appropriate. tell the operator/dispatcher what you have seen that is odd. TELL him or her WHY it's odd and THAT it's odd. Then they get to deal with it.


    ++++++++++++++++


    Start walking around the block at home.

    Make mental notes of the deserted houses, where cars ought NOT be parked, and if there are cars parked there but it STILL looks deserted let the local constabulary know that there is something out of the ordinary there. If you have an industrial area in your 'hood, get to recognize what is normal for activity there. If it starts to look odd, call the constables and let them know. Do NOT hesitate to call....I once saw 2 suburbans sitting up watching the train tracks in my neighborhood... I completed my walk around the block and they were still there an hour later (6 mile block),,,damn straight I called my local LEO's because there wasn't ANYTHING on the Suburbans that said N&W on it and they checked em out.



    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++===


    GET TO KNOW WHAT IS "NORMAL" NOW AND WATCH FOR CHANGES.

    EVERYWHERE YOU GO KNOW HOW TO GET OUT QUICKLY AND SAFELY.

    HAVE A PHONE WITH YOU OR KNOW WHERE THE NEAREST ONE IS SO YOU CAN CALL IF SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT.

    AND CARRY YOUR DAMN GUN (legally).


    chuck
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    A reminder- any working cell phone even without an active service contract can still call 9-1-1 anywhere it can reach a tower. You don't have to pay a cell phone bill to have a working cell phone on your bedside table (housebreakers have been known to cut phone lines, or take the receiver of the first phone they encounter inside the home off the hook) or with you on your strolls about town.

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    Great post, Maureen. I would only add that you judiciously choose the clerk that you share your concerns with. You do not want someone who will roll their eyes and forget about what you told them AND you also don't want one who starts hysterically screaming at the top of their lungs.
    Perhaps a call to your local police department - might be better.

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    Mo I hope this is what you had in mind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    Mo I hope this is what you had in mind...
    It's exactly it, Chuck! Many people just do not know what to do or how to do it and yet think their eye is on the ball.

    The more people who add to this thread, the better. There are certain situations that cry "watch out" in different areas of the country, also, that we can get into.

    Through the day, I'll be jotting down notes as I have the chance and will organise and post tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cag3db1rd View Post
    having worked at a mall, i need to say that every single store has some sort of exit, even if they share one with a couple stores connected by a hallway running behind them all. The SPCA Adoption Center I worked at shared one with several small stores. This info might save your life.
    Yes, I was going to point this out, too. If you hear anything at all, any type of ruckus, go to the back of the store and notify the person at the register.

    To tell you the truth, I'd find a way to get that cage pulled down over the front of the store, too. If the cage is down and there is no-one visible from the front of the store, you might have a chance of getting out through the back hallway.

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    Bumping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maric View Post
    Bumping.
    Thank you, Mari. This is a good time for a bump.

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    If there was ever a time for a hard bump of this thread, this is it. PLEASE be extra vigilant of those persons and areas around you.

    Don't be scared, be observant and ready to react (and retreat) in a conscientious manner.

    Maureen
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    Pray for the protection of this nation and everybody stay sharp. Thanks for the bump, Mo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kozanne View Post
    Pray for the protection of this nation and everybody stay sharp. Thanks for the bump, Mo!
    The recent FBI BOLO says all that's needed. We NEED to be observant especially since we will NOT know where or when.

    Mo
    So be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid and do not panic before them. For the Lord your God will personally go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.

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    BTTT.
    So be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid and do not panic before them. For the Lord your God will personally go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.

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    Thanks Maureen - should be top of mind for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adgal View Post
    Thanks Maureen - should be top of mind for everyone.
    Yes, it should--especially now. Those explosives have not been recovered which means they are still available for use in the US.

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    BTTT.
    So be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid and do not panic before them. For the Lord your God will personally go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.

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    Think I'll bring my tameshigiri katana in to work tomorrow to, umm, clean and re-oil it. Yeah, clean and re-oil. That'll work.

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    You will also be looking for suspicious persons, groups or vehicles. We pretty much know what a suspicious person and vehicle looks like on TB2K, so further detail is not necessary unless requested.
    Don't be so sure. Recent reports indicate that this may be the suprise of the century because while we are all looking uneasy around middle-easterners it's the home growns that will wreak hell on earth.

    The mall scenario is great and very plausible however, with school starting back in a few weeks PLEASE talk to your kids. Go over these things. Go walk the neighborhood that the school is in. Set up a meeting place. I don't think that these sickos have dropped the plans to attack schools so lets not become complacent with our most beloved children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejagno View Post
    Don't be so sure. Recent reports indicate that this may be the suprise of the century because while we are all looking uneasy around middle-easterners it's the home growns that will wreak hell on earth.

    The mall scenario is great and very plausible however, with school starting back in a few weeks PLEASE talk to your kids. Go over these things. Go walk the neighborhood that the school is in. Set up a meeting place. I don't think that these sickos have dropped the plans to attack schools so lets not become complacent with our most beloved children.
    We have monthly lock-down drills at school. During the drills, the students and teachers talk (quietly) about what would really happen in different situations. Luckily, I don't have many students--even 9 or 10 could be totally hidden from anyone breaking in through the door or windows. They wouldn't be hidden if the shooter walked around the room, but they'd be hidden for a short time.

    No guns at school...but we could throw books, staplers, other heavy metal objects...I could keep a bat or two in the closet, come to think of it. Pour a little water on the floor, and we could pop him on the head as he fell on his butt.

    We have a dorky system, mandated by the state, that says we must put color coded cards (green-we're ok, red-the shooter is in here) on the door during lock-downs. The kids joke about saying, "Excuse me, Mr. Terrorist-Shooter-Dude, I need to put this red card on the outside of the door." I think it's STUPID--and so do the kids. Now, I can see putting green cards on the door and letting the blank doors let you know that there is trouble there, but interrupting the intruder to put a red card on the door? Please!

    We used to have a family plan for disasters, but children have grown up and moved away, I've bought a new house, our "go-to" place is no longer an option...it's time to make a new plan. But, I have to tell you that we've ALWAYS planned what to do IF...it's a personality trait that is in me--and all three of my children.

    There have actually been times when we walked into a convenience store and put the ones trained in fighting between the rest of us and the rest of the customers. Most of the time, we watch. I notice the gang stuff, of which I find most people to be unaware. Watch Gangland on The History Channel on Thursday nights, go to your local police department and find out if they have seminars on identifying gangs. It's worth your time.

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    Thanks Maureen, good info and lots of good reminders.

    This line cracked me up

    Quote Originally Posted by MaureenO View Post
    We pretty much know what a suspicious person and vehicle looks like on TB2K.
    Because when I read that all I could think of was this..

    Americans used to roar like lions for liberty; now we bleat like sheep for security.

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    Good gosh eXe! A guy like that just went past my house a couple of hours ago!

    Back to subject. You know what the hardest part of being a professional witness is?

    Police work is 98% rotten sheer boredom with 2% raw sheer 'poop your pants' terror.

    The thing is, you never know when the 2% is going to hit.

    Today, for all of us, it is the same thing. We never know do we?

    We may go for years and it will be that sameo sameo blah gettin' through life.

    Or maybe tomorrow you will see or hear something that will change your life forever.

    But if you have your head down, going over the grocery list or what you said to your neighbor you will miss that time you needed to be aware.

    Tunnel vision,one of the great dangers that happen to us while under great stress.

    Years ago, a detective was caught on video in a bank standing in line.......right behind a guy with a gun robbing the teller. The gun was out and pointed at the teller.
    The detective drew his gun and ordered the guy to drop it.

    At the very next window, the bad guy had an accomplice who shot and killed the detective.

    Tunnel vision is that which happens in a natural way. It makes the body look at the most dangerous thing confronting the body.

    It is most difficult to overcome. It can be done with the right forethought and then has to appear to be a part of the norm to ignore your tunnel vision.

    Just a comment on ST's post about eye contact at a mall or whatever.

    Most and I would say most of any size populace do NOT make eye contact. In smaller communities that is not the norm.

    So yes, go with what your environment tells you to do.

    Tomorrow, if you are out and in one of those larger communities, keep your head up! Try to make eye contact. Not ogle or gawk at people, just try to make that eye contact. It is almost impossible. Yeah, you'll get that one or two but I'll bet a dozen bananas that it will be very few.

    Just thought of a new motto for us: Bored to tears, but very vigilant.

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    Good Thread, For Sure. Thanks, MaureenO!

    What about Situation Awareness not only in meat world, but here on a world-wide message board as well?

    I am continually amazed at what folks on here post as to how much food, water, ammo, guns (and post pics), precious metals, cash on hand, their net worth, what their house is worth, etc. Yes, it it easy to get into a discussion because we are a great community of people here and want to talk about stuff like that.

    But none of us knows just *WHO* is reading this board and their intentions. We don't know their ability, if any, to find out who we are in the real world. They could have capabilities we don't know about; it's an uncertain world.

    Just remember what you post here is available to everyone on earth that has internet access.

    Not meaning to stifle the great information we continually share at TB2K, but just a reminder to be as careful with confidential information as you are in a dark parking lot at K-Mart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eXe View Post
    Thanks Maureen, good info and lots of good reminders.

    This line cracked me up



    Because when I read that all I could think of was this..

    Of course! That guy would catch my eye....

    Maureen
    So be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid and do not panic before them. For the Lord your God will personally go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.

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    BTTT

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    Excellent Thread and Comments!

    Something that Meemur said caught my eye:

    Meemur said:
    The guy with the pink hair who is sitting in a Subway restaurant, arguing with invisible people about global warming and Santa Claus is not a terrorist. The guy at Kroger who is wandering the aisles, looking for Jesus, isn't a problem, either.

    Now, it could be that Meemur really knows these folks and has already been able to decide whether or not they are dangerous. But I have interviewed people who have been "looking for Jesus" and are concerned about everyone being "purified" and have decided that the best way to purify folks is to lock them in a building and set it on fire. I think the best point this thread has made over and over is that we don't know where the threats are coming form and we have to use all of our senses (even our sixth sense) and always be alert and aware.

  33. #33
    I think it's time to bump this thread for the new members.

    Maureen
    So be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid and do not panic before them. For the Lord your God will personally go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.

  34. #34
    Bump. And please add to this.

    Maureen
    So be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid and do not panic before them. For the Lord your God will personally go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.

  35. #35
    BTTT.
    So be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid and do not panic before them. For the Lord your God will personally go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.

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    Really I have nothing to add but want to thank you for this info. Great reminder(s)
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    When you walk into ANY room, that is not in your own home or apt, you need to develop the habit of finding the following:

    The fastest way out.

    ALL of the doors because they can be ways out or ways IN for the Purples.

    ALL of the windows for the same reqason as above.

    FIND COVER. somewhere IN THE ROOM there HAS to be a place that is RELATIVELY safe from bullets. FIND it.\

    FIND CONCEALMENT. SOmewhere in the room is somwewhere you can duck into which hides you. This is NOT cover, but it IS a plae to get out of view FAST.


    NOW.....

    START THIS WEEK. MAKE THE HABIT to DO the survey in EVERY room you walk into. EVEN your brother in law's living room....EVEN mom's house and the restaurant you eat at for lunch EVERY DAY.....

    <center> AND</center>




    <center>CARRY YOUR DAMNED GUN</center>



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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    When you walk into ANY room, that is not in your own home or apt, you need to develop the habit of finding the following:

    The fastest way out.

    ALL of the doors because they can be ways out or ways IN for the Purples.

    ALL of the windows for the same reqason as above.

    FIND COVER. somewhere IN THE ROOM there HAS to be a place that is RELATIVELY safe from bullets. FIND it.\

    FIND CONCEALMENT. SOmewhere in the room is somwewhere you can duck into which hides you. This is NOT cover, but it IS a plae to get out of view FAST.


    NOW.....

    START THIS WEEK. MAKE THE HABIT to DO the survey in EVERY room you walk into. EVEN your brother in law's living room....EVEN mom's house and the restaurant you eat at for lunch EVERY DAY.....

    <center> AND</center>




    <center>CARRY YOUR DAMNED GUN</center>



    <center>LOADED</center>
    Thank you, Chuck. +1 on everything.

    Mo
    So be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid and do not panic before them. For the Lord your God will personally go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.

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    Maureen--THANK YOU AGAIN for this timely BTTT. I think...I hate that I have to say this...but I really think we're not done yet. I think things like this will start to happen a lot more. Like...this week. Not like in the next year. But very soon and often. Call it whatever you want--but I ain't a prophet or psychic. I'm just sensing SOMETHING.

    ERGO...I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY think this either needs to be somehow PINNED...or just BTTT every hour--every single TB2K member needs to read this. I practice this as much as I can and I should be better at it.

  40. #40
    BTTT again.

    Maureen
    So be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid and do not panic before them. For the Lord your God will personally go ahead of you. He will neither fail you nor abandon you.

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