POL Presidents Memorial Speech in Arizona

TerryK

TB Fanatic
I never thought I would say it but the President gave a good speech tonight and didn't try to politicize it. He even had a few words telling people they should not engage in all the groundless accusations the media has been putting forth this past week.

http://nationaljournal.com/whitehou...age-of-hope-in-tucson-after-massacre-20110112

"At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized – at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do – it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds,'' Obama said in prepared remarks.
Obama's words followed those of Daniel Hernandez, the intern who stayed with Gibbons after a gunman fired dozens of rounds into a crowd. Obama's words came after uplifting and humble comments from Hernandez and Gov. Jan Brewer, among others reflecting a need to move on from Saturday's massacre.
"What we can’t do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.''
Here are Obama's entire remarks, as prepared for delivery:
To the families of those we’ve lost; to all who called them friends; to the students of this university, the public servants gathered tonight, and the people of Tucson and Arizona: I have come here tonight as an American who, like all Americans, kneels to pray with you today, and will stand by you tomorrow.
There is nothing I can say that will fill the sudden hole torn in your hearts. But know this: the hopes of a nation are here tonight. We mourn with you for the fallen. We join you in your grief. And we add our faith to yours that Representative Gabrielle Giffords and the other living victims of this tragedy pull through.
As Scripture tells us:
There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God,
the holy place where the Most High dwells.
God is within her, she will not fall;
God will help her at break of day.
On Saturday morning, Gabby, her staff, and many of her constituents gathered outside a supermarket to exercise their right to peaceful assembly and free speech. They were fulfilling a central tenet of the democracy envisioned by our founders – representatives of the people answering to their constituents, so as to carry their concerns to our nation’s capital. Gabby called it “Congress on Your Corner” – just an updated version of government of and by and for the people.
That is the quintessentially American scene that was shattered by a gunman’s bullets. And the six people who lost their lives on Saturday – they too represented what is best in America.
Judge John Roll served our legal system for nearly 40 years. A graduate of this university and its law school, Judge Roll was recommended for the federal bench by John McCain twenty years ago, appointed by President George H.W. Bush, and rose to become Arizona’s chief federal judge. His colleagues described him as the hardest-working judge within the Ninth Circuit. He was on his way back from attending Mass, as he did every day, when he decided to stop by and say hi to his Representative. John is survived by his loving wife, Maureen, his three sons, and his five grandchildren.
George and Dorothy Morris – “Dot” to her friends – were high school sweethearts who got married and had two daughters. They did everything together, traveling the open road in their RV, enjoying what their friends called a 50-year honeymoon. Saturday morning, they went by the Safeway to hear what their Congresswoman had to say. When gunfire rang out, George, a former Marine, instinctively tried to shield his wife. Both were shot. Dot passed away.
A New Jersey native, Phyllis Schneck retired to Tucson to beat the snow. But in the summer, she would return East, where her world revolved around her 3 children, 7 grandchildren, and 2 year-old great-granddaughter. A gifted quilter, she’d often work under her favorite tree, or sometimes sew aprons with the logos of the Jets and the Giants to give out at the church where she volunteered. A Republican, she took a liking to Gabby, and wanted to get to know her better.
Dorwan and Mavy Stoddard grew up in Tucson together – about seventy years ago. They moved apart and started their own respective families, but after both were widowed they found their way back here, to, as one of Mavy’s daughters put it, “be boyfriend and girlfriend again.” When they weren’t out on the road in their motor home, you could find them just up the road, helping folks in need at the Mountain Avenue Church of Christ. A retired construction worker, Dorwan spent his spare time fixing up the church along with their dog, Tux. His final act of selflessness was to dive on top of his wife, sacrificing his life for hers.
Everything Gabe Zimmerman did, he did with passion – but his true passion was people. As Gabby’s outreach director, he made the cares of thousands of her constituents his own, seeing to it that seniors got the Medicare benefits they had earned, that veterans got the medals and care they deserved, that government was working for ordinary folks. He died doing what he loved – talking with people and seeing how he could help. Gabe is survived by his parents, Ross and Emily, his brother, Ben, and his fiancée, Kelly, who he planned to marry next year.
And then there is nine year-old Christina Taylor Green. Christina was an A student, a dancer, a gymnast, and a swimmer. She often proclaimed that she wanted to be the first woman to play in the major leagues, and as the only girl on her Little League team, no one put it past her. She showed an appreciation for life uncommon for a girl her age, and would remind her mother, “We are so blessed. We have the best life.” And she’d pay those blessings back by participating in a charity that helped children who were less fortunate.
Our hearts are broken by their sudden passing. Our hearts are broken – and yet, our hearts also have reason for fullness.
Our hearts are full of hope and thanks for the 13 Americans who survived the shooting, including the congresswoman many of them went to see on Saturday. I have just come from the University Medical Center, just a mile from here, where our friend Gabby courageously fights to recover even as we speak. And I can tell you this – she knows we’re here and she knows we love her and she knows that we will be rooting for her throughout what will be a difficult journey.
And our hearts are full of gratitude for those who saved others. We are grateful for Daniel Hernandez, a volunteer in Gabby’s office who ran through the chaos to minister to his boss, tending to her wounds to keep her alive. We are grateful for the men who tackled the gunman as he stopped to reload. We are grateful for a petite 61 year-old, Patricia Maisch, who wrestled away the killer’s ammunition, undoubtedly saving some lives. And we are grateful for the doctors and nurses and emergency medics who worked wonders to heal those who’d been hurt.
These men and women remind us that heroism is found not only on the fields of battle. They remind us that heroism does not require special training or physical strength. Heroism is here, all around us, in the hearts of so many of our fellow citizens, just waiting to be summoned – as it was on Saturday morning.
Their actions, their selflessness, also pose a challenge to each of us. It raises the question of what, beyond the prayers and expressions of concern, is required of us going forward. How can we honor the fallen? How can we be true to their memory?
You see, when a tragedy like this strikes, it is part of our nature to demand explanations – to try to impose some order on the chaos, and make sense out of that which seems senseless. Already we’ve seen a national conversation commence, not only about the motivations behind these killings, but about everything from the merits of gun safety laws to the adequacy of our mental health systems. Much of this process, of debating what might be done to prevent such tragedies in the future, is an essential ingredient in our exercise of self-government.
But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized – at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do – it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.
Scripture tells us that there is evil in the world, and that terrible things happen for reasons that defy human understanding. In the words of Job, “when I looked for light, then came darkness.” Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermath.
For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind.
So yes, we must examine all the facts behind this tragedy. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence. We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of violence in the future.
But what we can’t do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.
After all, that’s what most of us do when we lose someone in our family – especially if the loss is unexpected. We’re shaken from our routines, and forced to look inward. We reflect on the past. Did we spend enough time with an aging parent, we wonder. Did we express our gratitude for all the sacrifices they made for us? Did we tell a spouse just how desperately we loved them, not just once in awhile but every single day?
So sudden loss causes us to look backward – but it also forces us to look forward, to reflect on the present and the future, on the manner in which we live our lives and nurture our relationships with those who are still with us. We may ask ourselves if we’ve shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we are doing right by our children, or our community, and whether our priorities are in order. We recognize our own mortality, and are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame – but rather, how well we have loved, and what small part we have played in bettering the lives of others.
That process of reflection, of making sure we align our values with our actions – that, I believe, is what a tragedy like this requires. For those who were harmed, those who were killed – they are part of our family, an American family 300 million strong. We may not have known them personally, but we surely see ourselves in them. In George and Dot, in Dorwan and Mavy, we sense the abiding love we have for our own husbands, our own wives, our own life partners. Phyllis – she’s our mom or grandma; Gabe our brother or son. In Judge Roll, we recognize not only a man who prized his family and doing his job well, but also a man who embodied America’s fidelity to the law. In Gabby, we see a reflection of our public spiritedness, that desire to participate in that sometimes frustrating, sometimes contentious, but always necessary and never-ending process to form a more perfect union.
And in Christina…in Christina we see all of our children. So curious, so trusting, so energetic and full of magic.
So deserving of our love.
And so deserving of our good example. If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate, as it should, let’s make sure it’s worthy of those we have lost. Let’s make sure it’s not on the usual plane of politics and point scoring and pettiness that drifts away with the next news cycle.
The loss of these wonderful people should make every one of us strive to be better in our private lives – to be better friends and neighbors, co-workers and parents. And if, as has been discussed in recent days, their deaths help usher in more civility in our public discourse, let’s remember that it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy, but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to our challenges as a nation, in a way that would make them proud. It should be because we want to live up to the example of public servants like John Roll and Gabby Giffords, who knew first and foremost that we are all Americans, and that we can question each other’s ideas without questioning each other’s love of country, and that our task, working together, is to constantly widen the circle of our concern so that we bequeath the American dream to future generations.
I believe we can be better. Those who died here, those who saved lives here – they help me believe. We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us. I believe that for all our imperfections, we are full of decency and goodness, and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us.
That’s what I believe, in part because that’s what a child like Christina Taylor Green believed. Imagine: here was a young girl who was just becoming aware of our democracy; just beginning to understand the obligations of citizenship; just starting to glimpse the fact that someday she too might play a part in shaping her nation’s future. She had been elected to her student council; she saw public service as something exciting, something hopeful. She was off to meet her congresswoman, someone she was sure was good and important and might be a role model. She saw all this through the eyes of a child, undimmed by the cynicism or vitriol that we adults all too often just take for granted.
I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she imagined it. All of us – we should do everything we can to make sure this country lives up to our children’s expectations.
Christina was given to us on September 11th, 2001, one of 50 babies born that day to be pictured in a book called “Faces of Hope.” On either side of her photo in that book were simple wishes for a child’s life. “I hope you help those in need,” read one. “I hope you know all of the words to the National Anthem and sing it with your hand over your heart. I hope you jump in rain puddles.”
If there are rain puddles in heaven, Christina is jumping in them today. And here on Earth, we place our hands over our hearts, and commit ourselves as Americans to forging a country that is forever worthy of her gentle, happy spirit.
May God bless and keep those we’ve lost in restful and eternal peace. May He love and watch over the survivors. And may He bless the United States of America
 

annieb

Senior Member
This was a pleasant surprise

I was pleasantly surprised and there was a real sense of tribute to the victims and their families. Great speech.
 

kemosabe

Doooooooooom !
Sorry , I simply CANNOT give credit to him for any speech he makes..

and neither should ANYONE.. IMO


The "credit" is due to his SPEECHWRITER...



Now if you want to give credit for being a "capable reader" or a "convincing actor" then by all means..........
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kozanne

Inactive
He did fine. I did think that all the cheering going on was quite inappropriate. This was a memorial service; did people forget how to behave?
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
Sorry , I simply CANNOT give credit to him for any speech he makes..

and neither should ANYONE.. IMO


The "credit" is due to his SPEECHWRITER...



Now if you want to give credit for being a "capable reader" or a "convincing actor" then by all means..........
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Ayup.

Maureen :dstrs:
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
He did fine. I did think that all the cheering going on was quite inappropriate. This was a memorial service; did people forget how to behave?

Well, remember, Koz, everyone in the audience is vetted to leave remaining only the O lovers. Victims' families are still stinging with grief and I do hope they had the option to stay home if they wanted to.

Mo :dstrs:
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
kozanne,
Even the news reporters trying to tell us all what to think after the speech noticed that Obama at first appeared shocked by the cheering.
I too thought it was inappropriate with all the relatives and families of the killed and injured there.
 

kozanne

Inactive
Well, remember, Koz, everyone in the audience is vetted to leave remaining only the O lovers. Victims' families are still stinging with grief and I do hope they had the option to stay home if they wanted to.

Mo :dstrs:

Don't know that they did, Mo. But if it were me [God Forbid!], my instinct is to show up for no other reason than to be an example.

I keep thinking about the little girl's dad, who said that he was against restrictions on freedom of speech, assembly, etc.

Sometimes things are bigger than 'just you'. And I know, based on what I've heard about people's actions that horrible day in Tucson, that there were some wonderful everyday people that knew it.

Again, if a Congressperson had not been a victim, would we even be having this conversation? Or would it be just another 'drive by' shooting?
 

kozanne

Inactive
kozanne,
Even the news reporters trying to tell us all what to think after the speech noticed that Obama at first appeared shocked by the cheering.
I too thought it was inappropriate with all the relatives and families of the killed and injured there.

Yeah, there is a time for all things. This was definitely not the time for cheering.

As Sarah Palin said so eloquently today, I may not agree with everything 0bama thinks, but we can be respectful. I do my best, I don't always achieve that, but sometimes I surprise myself.

At least he didn't give shout outs like he did at Fort Hood.
 

Willow

Veteran Member
I thought Obama was wonderful....and if you know me you know that saying that doesn't come easy. Yes, the words came from a speech writer but he still had to say them. Whether the emotion was real or he will be up for an Academy Award for great acting...the results were comforting for the families and friends of those who died and for those who are trying to survive.

I thought the pep rally atmosphere was awful and judging from some of those speaking and in the audience they felt the same way.

Willow
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
I thought that he actually sounded HUMAN tonight. Although he could NOT refrain from the sticking his nose in the air thing. and also thought it weird how gray his hair looked, too....Its usually so blacked out with dye

Did anyone else think it was odd when that large young black man didn't stand up (except briefly) when spoken about? :shr:
 

duchess47

Has No Life - Lives on TB
As someone who has depised him from the very beginning, I was surprised and heartened by the speach he gave, speach writers or not. He made an effort to bring this country together, acting or not, and paid tribute to those hurt and those killed.

(I was reminded of Jean Dixon - I think - who said we would have a president who tired of it and left his body and a "walkin" took over) I know, crazy.
 

54321

Inactive
Wow, pretty shocked at the responses.

The entire rally was disgusting, Obama was simply READING words. If I had a family member killed or injured, I would have walked out.

Nothing but smiles and laughter after it was over.

Since when does a madman killing a bunch of people have anything to do with the "Nation coming together". This is a setup, and I cant believe how many here don't see that.


My daughter, father, Grandma, Grandpa died and all I got was this crumby Tshirt!
 

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minkykat

Komplainy Kat
He did fine. I did think that all the cheering going on was quite inappropriate. This was a memorial service; did people forget how to behave?

I was listening on the radio at work. I wondered at first if a fire hadn't broken out from all the screaming I heard as I tuned in. Turns out they were screaming their love for dear leader for having healed the congresswoman; she did, after all, OPEN her eyes after his visit!

Gag me.
 

minkykat

Komplainy Kat
Wow, pretty shocked at the responses.

The entire rally was disgusting, Obama was simply READING words. If I had a family member killed or injured, I would have walked out.

Nothing but smiles and laughter after it was over.

Since when does a madman killing a bunch of people have anything to do with the "Nation coming together". This is a setup, and I cant believe how many here don't see that.


My daughter, father, Grandma, Grandpa died and all I got was this crumby Tshirt!

I utterly agree! Wasn't it just weeks ago that one of dear leader's team was saying how the chocolate messiah "needed" a 9-11?
 

Grantbo

Inactive
What's up with all the dirty liberal big wigs talking about God and quoting the bible before the teleprompter? What ever happened to their beloved separation?

Bunch of hypocrites.
 

Palmetto

Son, Husband, Father
1. The students were orgasmic when THE ONE walked in. Bad taste and a view of the voting block traditional America is up against.

2. The words of the speech were good. It was a well written and well read speech. Any actor could have read that speech.

3. The Usurper has no soul.

4. See #3.

Palmetto
 

lilsparky

Contributing Member
I didn't directly hear the speech, was at work (nursing home) but it was on televisions in several rooms as I was moving about the unit. I did hear the tone, and kept thinking how inappropriate that it sounded more like a political rally than a memorial service. If he wanted to display some leadership, he should have admonished the crowd to remember the purpose of the gathering.
 

plantman

Veteran Member
A good speech? A good speech!! This guy is illegitimate and illegally appointed immigrant! Do you realize that sounds vaguely familiar to what the Germans said after they got used to Hitler?

I don't listen to him because he is incredibly adept at the power of suggestion, incredibly adept at mind control. Stockholm syndrome.

Obama is evil pure and simple, we do not hear his voice in our home. No way uh uh!
 

Phil Ca

Inactive
When he stood up for the National Anthem I expected he would clasp his hands near his crotch as we have seen before. But, .....surprise.he placed his right hand over his heart! He also appeared to be singiing the Anthem! Perhaps when the WH got the copy of the program it was decided to have a class on decorum whenever the National Anthem is performed. Even the Mrs. semed to b in step with the program.

This was th first time I heard the (R)sident speak that I managd to listen all the way through. His writers did a fair job on the spech. It could have been about 20 or so minutes less in length.

The youthful BHO fan base showed their usual laack of class by cheering and catcalling from the gallery.

Lets hope that this does not turn into a total Us vs Them thing.
 

Cyndryn

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I didn't know what to expect. For the first time I feel like I've seen a glimpse of his soul and he's given the same deep feeling of patriotism/humanity that I want in a leader. While I am not a supporter I am very fulfilled with the seeming sincerity of his words... for a while it feels complete.

God bless America. :wvflg:
 

BH

. . . .
I didn't make it all the way through the speech. Up through him mentioning each of the dead was OK, but after that he was talking so far out of his element it was nothing but a reading of the words on the paper.

I mentioned to GF after hearing all the locals talk about God and prayer just how was the representative Feds going to even contribute. I was shocked with Holder and Janet and their reading of the Bible.

O made reference to the religious overtones of the evening, but did not put any of his comments in the first person. He made references to 'scripture' quite a bit, but I was just wondering what book his 'scripture' references were from.

If I thought even a little bit that those 3 were sincere I might have taken their words as they sounded. The history of those 3 however, have repeatedly demonstrated that none of their words have any meaning beyond the immediate moment and immediate audience.

I actually felt sorry for Gifford's husband. When O spoke of his healing and her opening her eyes, hubby got all hugs and kisses from Michelle and Janet (as the crowd cheered).

I liked the Indian's prayer the best....
 

dogmanan

Inactive
O man is very smart man and he has lost credibly over the last few months, but with the speach/pep rally and the posts on this thread it seems he has gained a lot of it back, like I said he is very smart man and has done his job of wining back support well it would seem.

Even a evil man has enough since to say and do what is need to gain back the support he has lost.

later
 

uriah55

Contributing Member
It was a wonderful speech except I thought there was alot of The Pot Calling The Kettle Black.
 

Guns-N-Moses

Senior Member
This was a response on another blog, which states my position and the questions I have as well (reprinted by permission)


I don’t mean to be insensitive (as I have no problem with the people of Tucson holding a memorial service for their loss and a tribute to those who survived), but as others have stated this reeks of political grandstanding.

I keep remembering statements that have been made by various (Democratic) politicians & pundits.

(1) Rahm Emanuel: “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste” Video

(2) Mark Penn “Obama needs a moment "similar" to the tragic terrorist attack on the Oklahoma City federal building, in order to "reconnect" with voters. - video


Did Obama use this to reconnect?

I am trying to be unbiased and sensitive to the situation because this was a National Tragedy.

Perhaps a memorial was justified because the shooting involved so many people including 9-year-old Christina Taylor Green and two government officials (congresswoman Giffords and Federal Judge John Roll).

However I was trying to recall the last time so much attention was given to a similar event and when (in history) did our leaders use these events to attack or blame individuals (Tea Party members, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh etc.)

How does this event compare with other (similar) national tragedies in history?

How did Obama’s speech compare to other Presidential speeches for similar events?

Was this Tucson event above the pale?


Here are a few events (I am sure there are many more),

Dec. 8, 1941: President Franklin D. Roosevelt's address to Congress after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Nov. 28, 1963: President Lyndon B. Johnson's address to the nation on Thanksgiving Day, just days after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

April 5, 1968: President Lyndon B. Johnson's address to the nation upon proclaiming a day of mourning following the death of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

Oct. 24, 1983: President Ronald Reagan held a question-and-answer session with regional editors and broadcasters on the situation in Lebanon following an attack on a U.S. military post.

Jan. 28, 1986: President Ronald Reagan addresses the nation after the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger.

April 19, 1995: President Bill Clinton spoke to the nation following the Oklahoma City bombing.

April 23, 1995: President Bill Clinton remarks on the attack at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo. that occurred on April 19, 1995.

Sept. 11, 2001: President George W. Bush address to the nation on the day of the terror attacks.

April 17, 2007: President George W. Bush makes remarks during a memorial convocation at Virginia Tech University in Blacksburg, Va., following a shooting that killed 32 and injured 20.

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/pol...mfort/#slide=1
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
I am surprised at the reaction of many of you here. He got Americas true feelings for him handed to him in the last election. He is scared for his party and his own position. Naturally he would do this to promote himself.

As far as any seemingly sincere speech goes, he has speech writers that study the assumed audience and decide what best fits that audience and then Obama reads what he is told to read. For his campaign the speech writer was a white male like 25 years old who was a genius. My guess is the guy still works for Obama. So the words we hear are not those conspired by Obama himself.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
He did fine. I did think that all the cheering going on was quite inappropriate. This was a memorial service; did people forget how to behave?

The cheering was part of his current political campaign by his followers.

Obamas audience is a group of people who behave in whatever way gives the appearance of him being the almighty just as they have always done.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
I do find it odd that the only Christian scripture I've ever seen him quote is taken out of context.

That promise is for the nation that proclaims God as its head. That stands up and shouts that God leads it into battle, that understands the blessings it gets is from God alone and not man.

In a country that has taken God out of schools, its pledge and everyday life in favor of being politically correct, I dont see that as a promise for us as a nation.

God is our refuge and strength,
an ever-present help in trouble.
2 Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way
and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea,
3 though its waters roar and foam
and the mountains quake with their surging.[c]

4 There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God,
the holy place where the Most High dwells.
5 God is within her, she will not fall;
God will help her at break of day.
6 Nations are in uproar, kingdoms fall;
he lifts his voice, the earth melts.
7 The LORD Almighty is with us;
the God of Jacob is our fortress.
8 Come and see what the LORD has done,
the desolations he has brought on the earth.
9 He makes wars cease
to the ends of the earth.
He breaks the bow and shatters the spear;
he burns the shields[d] with fire.
10 He says, “Be still, and know that I am God;
I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth.” 11 The LORD Almighty is with us;
the God of Jacob is our fortress.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
It is all designed to keep the ball in his court.

When the dems had full control, they did as they pleased, but now suddenly they are all crying "we need to work together". Man how easily some of you forget. Look back to not so long ago when the dems just pushed things through with total disregard to republicans. NOW we all need to get along only because they no longer have total control.

Look at this section of a current Yahoo article.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theti...es-americans-to-use-words-that-heal-not-wound

"In Tucson to eulogize the victims of last weekend's tragic shooting, President Obama somberly called for an end to the political blame game that erupted in the wake of the tragedy and urged Americans not to use it as "one more occasion to turn on each other."


Those first few words say it all. Suddenly we need to work together. Funny thing is the dems idea of working together is having the republicans give them what they want. If you look back Obama is as guilty as any one person or party of causing political friction. Now when he see's he is loosing he wants unity. What intelligent person would not jump at this opportunity.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
I stand by my original position. The speech by itself if given by anyone, even a conservative, would have been ok although someone should have told the unruly students to shut up. He didn't take the opportunity he has always taken in the past to politicize the event and criticise conservatives.

BUT then again he didn't have to be his typical leftist self. His minions the left wing media were still blaming Sarah Palin and conservatives in general for the killings. They were out doing the dirty work so he could appear to be above it all during the memorial.
If this strategy was in fact a strategy and not an accident we are in serious trouble because the American people are not sophisticated enough to see through it. Obama will appear to move to the center and simply allow the left wing media to do all his attacking while he appears to be the sensible middle of the road guy.

Sarah Palin's speech was far more presidential, powerful and elegant than Obama's. I love it that she frightens the liberals and even the RINOs so much that they sputter with rage every time she speaks.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
. He didn't take the opportunity he has always taken in the past to politicize the event and criticise conservatives.

BUT then again he didn't have to be his typical leftist self. His minions the left wing media were still blaming Sarah Palin and conservatives in general for the killings.

Sarah Palin's speech was far more presidential, powerful and elegant than Obama's. I love it that she frightens the liberals and even the RINOs so much that they sputter with rage every time she speaks.

Look at what you just said. IMO he took this as a political opportunity to act as though his goal is unity. Yet if he really wanted unity he would be riding the media and stopping all the negative campaigning that this whole occurrence has spawned including the Sara Palin comments made by the media.

No offense but me thinks you be wearing blinders. He did take the opportunity this time as always, IMO, he just used new tactics to fool all of you.
 
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Anti-Liberal

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I didn't know what to expect. For the first time I feel like I've seen a glimpse of his soul and he's given the same deep feeling of patriotism/humanity that I want in a leader. While I am not a supporter I am very fulfilled with the seeming sincerity of his words... for a while it feels complete.

God bless America. :wvflg:

OMG...<GULP>...I just threw up a little.:kk1: You have got to be kidding! His "soul", feeling of "patriotism"...Give me a break. Those words weren't his, just the fact that he could speak of such "sincerity" proves he has no soul what so ever. I can't stand to even look at that punk. If the American sheeple fell for this BS then we are truly finished as a country. It's like being a conjoined twin when your other half dies and in minutes you know your next and their is nothing you can do about it. :sht:
 
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