WoT Obama Gives a Pass: TSA Won’t Touch Muslims’ Junk

MDINMT

MDINMT

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http://floydreports.com/obama-gives-a-pass-tsa-wont-touch-muslims-junk/

Thirty-one-year-old John Tyner, a 31-year-old recently unleashed the “Don’t tase me, Bro” moment of airport security. While about to receive a genital check from TSA security, Tyner agreed to a search of non-intimate areas but said, “If you touch my junk, I’ll have you arrested.” However, Muslim women will not have to face such worries. CNSNews.com has reported that Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) — which is frequently tied to domestic terror plots — has been guaranteed that TSA officials will only pat down Muslim women in the head and neck area.

CAIR said Muslims who object to full-body scans for religious reasons should know their rights if they are required to undergo a pat-down, including asking for the procedure to be done in a private place. In addition, CAIR offered a “special recommendation” for Muslim women who wear a hijab, telling them they should tell the TSA officer that they may be searched only around the head and neck.

“Before you are patted down, you should remind the TSA officer that they are only supposed to pat down the area in question, in this scenario, your head and neck. They SHOULD NOT subject you to a full-body or partial-body pat-down.”

Muslim women will likely opt for the not-very-invasive security pat-down, because most consider airports’ high-image body scans a violation of Islamic Shari’a law. CNS News adds, “In February, the Figh Council of North America, a group of Islamic scholars, issued a fatwa, or religious ruling, that full-body scanners violate Islamic law.”

So, Muslim women will not be subject to a full body scan or a pat-down on much of their elaborately concealed bodies. Feeling secure yet?

Add this to the growing proof that political correctness is not merely totalitarian but suicidal. The president made an exception to airline security protocol big enough to drive a jihad through — and applied it only to the adherents of Islam. Roman Catholic nuns can be groped en masse, but Obama rushed to defend the dignity of Muslim women.

Luckily, Muslim terrorists have no history of using female suicide bombers or hiding explosives in their underwear.

Consider this just another reason why one-in-four Americans believe Obama is a Muslim.
 
Rescuedog

Rescuedog

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I believe CAIR has issued these statements but no official changes have been made to how Muslims are patted down.

RD
 
Seeker

Seeker

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Was this what you read?

Religion Offers No Break on Airport Screening, TSA Says

WASHINGTON -- The Transportation Security Administration says airline passengers won't get out of body imaging screening or pat-downs based on their religious beliefs.

TSA chief John Pistole told the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Tuesday that passengers who refuse to go through a full-body scanner machine and reject a pat-down won't be allowed to board, even if they turned down the in-depth screening for religious reasons.

"That person is not going to get on an airplane," Pistole said in response to a question from Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., on whether the TSA would provide exemptions for passengers whose religious beliefs do not allow them to go through a physically revealing body scan or be touched by screeners.

Civil rights groups contend the more intensive screening violates civil liberties including freedom of religion, the right to privacy and the constitutional protection against unreasonable searches.

The issue is getting new attention after a man posted an item online saying he was thrown out of the San Diego airport for rejecting a full-body scan and pat-down groin check and instead insisting on passing through a metal detector.

The Electronic Privacy Information Center is among several civil liberties groups suing the TSA in federal court to stop use of the full-body scanners. Their lawsuit says the machines are overly intrusive and violate civil rights, and that it is questionable whether they can detect powdered explosives such as those used by a passenger in last year's attempted Christmas airliner bombing. They also question whether the machines pose a health risk.

"There's a very strong sense right now that the public attitude on the airport body scanner program has swung dramatically," said Marc Rotenberg, director of EPIC. There is growing opposition from civil rights groups, religious organizations, libertarians, airline passengers and pilots, he said.

EPIC is urging air travelers to take part in a national opt-out day the day before Thanksgiving, refusing to go through the full-body detectors and insisting that any pat-down they receive as a result take place in full view of other passengers.

Several senators asked Pistole to address public criticism of the body-imaging machines and more intrusive pat-downs the agency is using. Pistole said the tougher screening is necessary, and that the FDA has found the imaging machines to be safe. Going through the whole-body scanning machine is similar to getting about three minutes of the radiation that passengers receive at 30,000 feet on a typical flight, he said.

Pistole said his agency was working to address pilot and flight attendant concerns about the screening.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ning-tsa-says/
 
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Garryowen

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Luckily, Muslim terrorists have no history of using female suicide bombers or hiding explosives in their underwear.
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Not so. They have used women in Israel, at least on one occasion. She was broken-hearted when her suicide belt failed to detonate in the pediatric ward of an Israeli hospital, where she had been receiving treatment for burns received in a cooking accident. She had sooo wanted to blow up Israeli children, because that would cause the most grief to their parents.

Yep, better to grope the Americans.
 
brokenwings

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They're the whole reason we are going thru this insane mess in the first place!! I think that only Muslims should be x-rayed and groped!!!
 
Terriannie

Terriannie

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I say EVERYBODY dress in burkas and Muslim garb! Then what would they do? I mean it's only clothing right? No law against it right? What are are they going to do....arrest you for imitating a Muslim? And oh the dilema those TSA guards would have. What to do, what to do? Do we pat down EVERYBODY or let EVERYBODY through??? :lol:
 
pops88

pops88

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People are "chosen" for enhanced screening. Muslim women won't be "chosen." They'll be waved through while white women and men who obviously aren't terrorist will be pulled out of line for the enhanced screening.
 
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pops88 said:
People are "chosen" for enhanced screening. Muslim women won't be "chosen." They'll be waved through while white women and men who obviously aren't terrorist will be pulled out of line for the enhanced screening.
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Reminds me of that scene from one of the Airplane movies....where the granny get the third degree and a full blown muslim terrorist gets wave through
 
ainitfunny

ainitfunny

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Can't anyone think straight?

If it is wrong to "profile" people for such invasive searches, because it assumes a "probable cause" for such outrageous violations of rights that does not in fact exist, it is just as wrong to violate EVERYONE'S rights in order to "camouflage" their real desire and intent to search those who "fit the profile" without raising claims of "discrimination". Making EVERYONE endure a wrong in no way justifies that trespass.
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Why is every measure purportedly "against terrorists" applied to oppress innocent citizens?
 
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fredkc

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Can't anyone think straight?
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My refusal to fly has cost me several good contract jobs.
Friends and even family beyond comfortable driving distance (~1000 mi.) now receive regular Christmas cards, instead of my charming presence.

What's gonna stop this UNConstitutional, illegal BS?
Probably about 2 weeks of absolutely no one getting on an airplane.

It simply comes down to this:
Would you rather live, x-ray'd, groped, and generally treated like a criminal instead of a customer in an unabashed police state?

Or would you prefer to live poor but free?

"What are you prepared to do?" - Sean Connery, Untouchables

Fred
 
mistaken1

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I want to become a hispanic, illegal alien, muslim so I can be allowed to opt out of the rules, regulations and laws within the United States of America.
 
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Terrwyn

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Why don't all of us women who fly become a plain jane homely with unplucked eyebrows wearing a headscarf? Lets confuse the room temp. IQs
 
kjcap_777

kjcap_777

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I hope that a march on Washington will become the result of this insane injustice.

And to think one pays to be groped and radio-active?!???

This is NOT America anymore. I remember the 60's early 70's, We protested civil injustice, burned draft cards,bras, protested against the Vietnam War, ETC, and now many are just accepting this??

What's it gonna take people,when are the PEOPLE of the United States Of America going to stand UP and tell DEE CEE,"WE AREN'T GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE"!!!

Geeze :dhr:

MCA:dstrs:
 
NoPlugsNM

NoPlugsNM

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All this just amazes me to no end. The people being exempted are the VERY REASON we all have to go through this nonsense to begin with . . it no longer makes me wonder about just how STUPID things have become. We have dumbed down our society to the point where no only is common sense missing from thinking straight, but, the intelligence level is equally down.

I stopped flying in 1999. Way before things got to the point they are today due to the rediculous practices of the TSA then. I was given a rash of their practices over the batteries in my Compaq laptop. They insisted I had to take my battery out and have it tested. All that nonsense almost had me missing my plane, and I was over 2 hours ahead of my flight when I got to the airport and was going through their screening. I watched many people who should have been more questionable than me go through their screening, set off all the bells and whistles, and get waived and a pass through because they thought the equipment was not operating correctly.

Every person who is thinking of traveling this coming holiday should stay home and NOT travel, one year missed of holiday visiting is nothing as compared to the gross misconduct taking place that needs to have the brakes put to it.

If you were to research the 'accidents' that have taken place in the industry, you would find that not one CABIN related explosion caused the crash of one airplane. A few years ago there was a cabin explosion in an Aloha aircraft, it did not result in a crash, I believe it was the only cabin explosion ever. ALL crashes have had the explosions take place below the cabin floor level (known as water line 200). If you pay attention to the gates that enter the ground areas at airports and their security practices, they are lax in their practices at best. Unitl airports get the ground level security up to a better par, every flight is or could be 'the one' that explodes mid-air. They screen baggage, they screen freight, but they have poor control on ground 'access' in the overall.


Maybe we will see actualy 'JUAN' reactions if people see the TSA improperly screen those passengers who APPEAR to be the greater or more risky getting through screening without proper screening.




NP
 
kjcap_777

kjcap_777

~Om
Terrwyn said:
Why don't all of us women who fly become a plain jane homely with unplucked eyebrows wearing a headscarf? Lets confuse the room temp. IQs
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Let me tell you a true story. It was 2004 and I went to pick up my DD at the airport. It was late,not a lot of customers about. I was sitting there,just gathering thoughts = sometimes mischievous,so I had a beautiful red scarf from Banana Republic and without another thought I put that scarf around my head and within 5 minutes,I promise with all my heart, security was coming out of every corner. I knew at that moment our freedom was going to be taken, a lit'l at a time.

Security didn't approach me, but stayed and watched me and even followed me to the exit, after my DD flight had landed.

I had to double check and make sure C-4 wasn't glued to my fanny,lol!

Even more hilarious is when my DD arrived, she was dressed in that dreadful Gothic clothing, so I looked like a Muslim Mum, picking up a Gothic Daughter,LOL!!!

True story.
MCA:dstrs:
 
RobinYyes

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MDINMT said:
http://floydreports.com/obama-gives-a-pass-tsa-wont-touch-muslims-junk/

Thirty-one-year-old John Tyner, a 31-year-old recently unleashed the “Don’t tase me, Bro” moment of airport security. While about to receive a genital check from TSA security, Tyner agreed to a search of non-intimate areas but said, “If you touch my junk, I’ll have you arrested.” However, Muslim women will not have to face such worries. CNSNews.com has reported that Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) — which is frequently tied to domestic terror plots — has been guaranteed that TSA officials will only pat down Muslim women in the head and neck area.

CAIR said Muslims who object to full-body scans for religious reasons should know their rights if they are required to undergo a pat-down, including asking for the procedure to be done in a private place. In addition, CAIR offered a “special recommendation” for Muslim women who wear a hijab, telling them they should tell the TSA officer that they may be searched only around the head and neck.

“Before you are patted down, you should remind the TSA officer that they are only supposed to pat down the area in question, in this scenario, your head and neck. They SHOULD NOT subject you to a full-body or partial-body pat-down.”

Muslim women will likely opt for the not-very-invasive security pat-down, because most consider airports’ high-image body scans a violation of Islamic Shari’a law. CNS News adds, “In February, the Figh Council of North America, a group of Islamic scholars, issued a fatwa, or religious ruling, that full-body scanners violate Islamic law.”

So, Muslim women will not be subject to a full body scan or a pat-down on much of their elaborately concealed bodies. Feeling secure yet?

Add this to the growing proof that political correctness is not merely totalitarian but suicidal. The president made an exception to airline security protocol big enough to drive a jihad through — and applied it only to the adherents of Islam. Roman Catholic nuns can be groped en masse, but Obama rushed to defend the dignity of Muslim women.

Luckily, Muslim terrorists have no history of using female suicide bombers or hiding explosives in their underwear.

Consider this just another reason why one-in-four Americans believe Obama is a Muslim.
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Seriously, we need to impeach his treasoness ass. It's not like he didn't say he'd choose muslims either. His own words from his book state that when the time comes he'd side with them. I would use swear words from here on out, but then you'd have to ban me so I'll just stop right here.
 
33dInd

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correct me if wrong, but werent there numerous suicide bombers in Iraq that were women?
I know my daughter is aware of three at her FOB Diamback from 2007 tour.
 
ainitfunny

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
If, in the name protesting this budding police state and defending your rights and freedoms, you won't even put up with the "disruption" to your life that "not flying" in protest generates, do not try to convince me that you would fight to stop tyranny from taking over this nation. There was never any citizen "militia" that didn't cost it's members any "skin" in serving.
 
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Metolius

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Seeker said:
Was this what you read?

Religion Offers No Break on Airport Screening, TSA Says

WASHINGTON -- The Transportation Security Administration says airline passengers won't get out of body imaging screening or pat-downs based on their religious beliefs.

TSA chief John Pistole told the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Tuesday that passengers who refuse to go through a full-body scanner machine and reject a pat-down won't be allowed to board, even if they turned down the in-depth screening for religious reasons.

"That person is not going to get on an airplane," Pistole said in response to a question from Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., on whether the TSA would provide exemptions for passengers whose religious beliefs do not allow them to go through a physically revealing body scan or be touched by screeners.

Civil rights groups contend the more intensive screening violates civil liberties including freedom of religion, the right to privacy and the constitutional protection against unreasonable searches.

The issue is getting new attention after a man posted an item online saying he was thrown out of the San Diego airport for rejecting a full-body scan and pat-down groin check and instead insisting on passing through a metal detector.

The Electronic Privacy Information Center is among several civil liberties groups suing the TSA in federal court to stop use of the full-body scanners. Their lawsuit says the machines are overly intrusive and violate civil rights, and that it is questionable whether they can detect powdered explosives such as those used by a passenger in last year's attempted Christmas airliner bombing. They also question whether the machines pose a health risk.

"There's a very strong sense right now that the public attitude on the airport body scanner program has swung dramatically," said Marc Rotenberg, director of EPIC. There is growing opposition from civil rights groups, religious organizations, libertarians, airline passengers and pilots, he said.

EPIC is urging air travelers to take part in a national opt-out day the day before Thanksgiving, refusing to go through the full-body detectors and insisting that any pat-down they receive as a result take place in full view of other passengers.

Several senators asked Pistole to address public criticism of the body-imaging machines and more intrusive pat-downs the agency is using. Pistole said the tougher screening is necessary, and that the FDA has found the imaging machines to be safe. Going through the whole-body scanning machine is similar to getting about three minutes of the radiation that passengers receive at 30,000 feet on a typical flight, he said.

Pistole said his agency was working to address pilot and flight attendant concerns about the screening.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ning-tsa-says/
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That is what I both read and heard on Fox news.

So I couldn't figure out what the topic title here was talking about. Still can't, and am waiting for something definitive that says President Obama is exempting muslims.

Until then, I am going with what Fox News has reported.
 
Jeff Allen

Jeff Allen

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fredkc said:
My refusal to fly has cost me several good contract jobs.
Friends and even family beyond comfortable driving distance (~1000 mi.) now receive regular Christmas cards, instead of my charming presence.

What's gonna stop this UNConstitutional, illegal BS?
Probably about 2 weeks of absolutely no one getting on an airplane.

It simply comes down to this:
Would you rather live, x-ray'd, groped, and generally treated like a criminal instead of a customer in an unabashed police state?

Or would you prefer to live poor but free?

"What are you prepared to do?" - Sean Connery, Untouchables

Fred
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An excellent summation. thank you.

J
 
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BTR

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Put a live pig in the cargo bay of every passenger aircraft and we can do away with all the TSA equipment and personnel. No muslim will blow up or crash a plane if there is even a remote chance that the pig's blood will mix with his on impact. Or, a tastier and more enjoyable way would be to require all passengers to eat a strip of bacon before boarding. No bacon, no boarding.
 
bbbuddy

bbbuddy

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Richard said:
Reminds me of that scene from one of the Airplane movies....where the granny get the third degree and a full blown muslim terrorist gets wave through
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This isn't just a movie, this is happening in real life, and has been for years....
 
KerryAnn

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bbbuddy said:
This isn't just a movie, this is happening in real life, and has been for years....
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Yup. Happened to me. The men and women muslims in full garb got a pass, and me, the modestly dressed, obvious Christian, pregnant woman with a toddler in tow, got searched to the 9th degree. "Because my pregnant belly might be a bomb" according to the TSA. Last time I looked, plain-clothed Christians weren't the ones blowing up planes.

I haven't flown since.
 
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fredkc

Retired Class Clown
Thank you, Jeff.

If, in the name protesting this budding police state and defending your rights and freedoms, you won't even put up with the "disruption" to your life that "not flying" in protest generates, do not try to convince me that you would fight to stop tyranny from taking over this nation. There was never any citizen "militia" that didn't cost it's members any "skin" in serving.
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The plain fact is, there is no "tyrant" at work here. No tyrant can possibly do this. There aren't enough politicians, bureaucrats, soldiers, cops, and garbage men in the country to stop what the people insist take place. There is nothing you can threaten people with that will make them give up everything. This mass submission must be out of consent rather than simply out of fear.

In short, 'we the people' are willing to settle for this. Every single one of us who will settle for 10 pounds of crap, for every piece of candy, will have it gleefully delivered to our door.

A man named Étienne de La Boétie wrote about this back in 1530. Sound thinking knows no time. He tried to explain why people put up with this crap, when they know it's wrong.

La Boétie delves especially deeply into its nature, and into the nature of State rule itself. This fundamental insight was that every tyranny must necessarily be grounded upon general popular acceptance. In short, the bulk of the people themselves, for whatever reason, acquiesce in their own subjection.

If this were not the case, no tyranny, indeed no governmental rule, could long endure. Hence, a government does not have to be popularly elected to enjoy general public support; for general public support is in the very nature of all governments that endure, including the most oppressive of tyrannies. The tyrant is but one person, and could scarcely command the obedience of another person, much less of an entire country, if most of the subjects did not grant their obedience by their own consent.

I should like merely to understand how it happens that so many men, so many villages, so many cities, so many nations, sometimes suffer under a single tyrant who has no other power than the power they give him; who is able to harm them only to the extent to which they have the willingness to bear with him; who could do them absolutely no injury unless they preferred to put up with him rather than contradict him. Surely a striking situation! Yet it is so common that one must grieve the more and wonder the less at the spectacle of a million men serving in wretchedness...

Shall we call subjection to such a leader cowardice? ... If a hundred, if a thousand endure the caprice of a single man, should we not rather say that they lack not the courage but the desire to rise against him, and that such an attitude indicates indifference rather than cowardice? When not a hundred, not a thousand men, but a hundred provinces, a thousand cities, a million men, refuse to assail a single man from whom the kindest treatment received is the infliction of serfdom and slavery, what shall we call that? Is it cowardice? ...

When a thousand, a million men, a thousand cities, fail to protect themselves against the domination of one man, this cannot be called cowardly, for cowardice does not sink to such a depth... What monstrous vice, then, is this which does not even deserve to be called cowardice, a vice for which no term can be found vile enough​

It is evident from the above passages that La Boétie is bitterly opposed to tyranny and to the public's consent to its own subjection. He makes clear also that this opposition is grounded on a theory of natural law and a natural right to liberty.
... more of this good sanity available here.​

And there is the rub!
Everybody mistakenly looks to government to secure them their liberty. Or even worse, their safety. They think that "their government" will do this, it's just the "other guy's government" that's screwing it up. Bush, Obama, Clinton, whoever it's the same government! Pretending there is a difference just gets us more of the same.

Government is not about securing a damned thing for you, me, anyone! Government is about milking everyone to death, until it is either brought to it's senses, or toppled.

We have the government we have because we settled for it. Hell we even cheer for it, every other 8 years. But the last 40 years have seen us settle like none of our forefathers, and this will surely be our end.

The illusion of parties, is nothing but divide and conquer, foisted on our children. The delusion that Islam is our enemy just makes it easier.

Perhaps I am this way because I don't have much left to lose. I have busted my butt since I was 18, and within 60 days I will be in exactly the same position Dennis our host, is. It's looking like my daughter will inherit most of my possessions many years before my death.

But if I can't leave this place knowing my grandchildren are not as free, or more so, than the day I was born, it will all seem like a waste of time.

"It is said that every generation..." Well, this is our time. And it isn't about muslims, or Bush, or Obama. The choice is whether:
We as a people are sorta-happy, safe, and kept like farm animals. Or
We are free first, free last, and whether that is in poverty or prosperity, the devil take the hindmost.
Fred
 
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Ambros

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I'm not accepting it...im acting pro-actively... Im getting my private pilots license and telling the big air transport companies where to shove it.... TSA doesnt screen me when i get in my plane... in fact the only person screening me when i get on my plane is myself...
 
Truly_Bug

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Am I the only one who still sees flying as a "privilege" instead of a "right"?
I hate the idea of the searches but if I want to fly... so be it! But EVERYONE should be treated the same. This PC (political correctness) is ridiculous! If mostly muslims are the threats..then search the muslims more.

Its like saying a 6'5 , 300 lb man robbed a bank so have the police look for a chinese midget with a pink mohawk.. sheesh!
 
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Metolius

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Ambros said:
I'm not accepting it...im acting pro-actively... Im getting my private pilots license and telling the big air transport companies where to shove it.... TSA doesnt screen me when i get in my plane... in fact the only person screening me when i get on my plane is myself...
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Dh has had his private pilot's license for many years now (since he was in his 20s, and he is 57 now) - flown all over the west coast, and Alaska back in the day.

Neither of us have flown commercially since 9/11, and this current TSA crap has pretty much eliminated my desire to fly commerically. I'd told him that our "travel" plans will be to see the USA with our truck and camper, and if he has any desire to fly-in to places again, he can reactivate his license so we can do it ourselves.

But I am not going to be groped to travel, and pre 9/11, we flew quite a bit. In a way, glad we got to do it and got it a bit out of our system before traveling by air went to hell. Unless something changes drastically for private pilots, it is quite a fun experience. I got as far as soloing, before life took me in a different direction, but I wouldn't mind taking up it up again and finishing what I started all those years earlier.

But first I'm going to push us to see everything on my list in the USA and Canada, and who knows, it is a pretty big list so that alone might take all of our remaining years. There are foreign places I would like to see, but having been to quite a few when I was younger, I don't have the same fever for travel abroad any more. Good thing I guess.
 
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FREEBIRD

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Truly Bug---Is all travel a privilege? Would you support scanning/patdowns, etc. for any person travelling anywhere? Where does the state's power end and the rights of citzens begin?
 
stown

stown

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I think it would be a riot (pun intended) if everyone went to the airport in muslim garb. Men or women, it doesn't matter. Put it on and dare them to feel you up...lol.
 
jed turtle

jed turtle

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truly great post Fred. thankyou!

as for the theatre of absurd playing out all over this once great nation of ours, think back to before 9-11 when very few of us even knew what Islam was or the immense danger it has always presented to non-muslims.

since then, this nation - in 8 short years- was seduced into voting for a man/boy whose name clearly revealed his muslim connections, and which nation now bows in submission to the arrogance and perogatives afforded muslims from sea to shining sea. meanwhile, all non-muslims in muslim countries enjoy no such reciprocity. one false demonstration of being a christian in those countries will get you jailed or beheaded.

the answer is profoundly simple:

deport all muslims, forbid all muslims from stepping foot on this continent, and outlaw all teaching of the Koran here as well.

then watch for the return of freedom and the removal of all the infrastructure of tyranny a la "Homeland Security".

failure to take that simple remedy will destroy this nation within our lifetimes.
 
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dragonslayer2001

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Can't you think straight?


Can't anyone think straight?

If it is wrong to "profile" people for such invasive searches, because it assumes a "probable cause" for such outrageous violations of rights that does not in fact exist, it is just as wrong to violate EVERYONE'S rights in order to "camouflage" their real desire and intent to search those who "fit the profile" without raising claims of "discrimination". Making EVERYONE endure a wrong in no way justifies that trespass.



You are thinking in sheep think. Otherwise known as what you have been brainwashed into thinking are 'legalities'.



Accept the reality. You are being herded. Any sane forceful people would say no, let's get real. We can easily identify the most likely threat or at least the majority. Let's stop and search and if necessary incarcerate all of them if need be.


But a very small handful of people, and really only a few hundred above them, have invented a way of creating money of of thin air, convincing billions that they are/could be far richer than most people throughout history would have concieved of being humanly possible, and while billions have been in a drug induced stupor,

the creators of the myths created leaders and rulers and politicians, and funded them heavily from they money they created......... out of thin air........


and made what they call 'laws'.


and over a very short period of time, a generation and two thirds, they stole the freedom, and the courage, and almost the soul of people's around the world, and to maybe the worst degree, the courage of the American People.


So rant an rave about the 'illogic' of the latest outrage and fail to see the simple truth that has been evident for at least 20 years..........


There is NO ILLOGIC in what is happening. It's just that the majority of those billions really are incapable of seeing past thier nose........

Until they have lost all, and get mad


And that is the great misjudgment on those people who created money out of thin air and in their great hubris, millenia wrong, that this time will piss off a world and not just a nation here and there.


Their 'laws' are NOT ETERNAL TRUTHS nor are they the LAWS that a Just Creator bequeathed all mankind and all animal kind. The Right to Defend against a crushing imposition from any source.



Instead of spending the week here reading pablam go study the words of Paine, or spend some serious time understanding where you really came from and see if you really deserve the legacy,



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The First Principle of the Social Compact recognizes that governments are instituted by the people and derive their just powers from the consent of the governed

The First Principle of limited government means that the protection of unalienable rights is the legitimate purpose and limit of government requires the government to be strong enough to fulfill its purpose yet limited to that purpose

A final First Principle is the right to declare revolution when the other First Principles are being infringed by the government.

Our Declaration of Independence explains that these foundational ideas were the philosophical underpinning of the American Revolution. Once independence was secured, the Founding Fathers labored to ensure that the Constitution became the living embodiment of a government based on these First Principles.


You have been played most of your life. The serious playing began during/after WII. We lost the government within the last 25 years.



It is in your face now.
 
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