ALERT Comprehensive Flu Thread, Latest reports, States, Countries, Closings.

xtreme_right

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WHO official H1N1 numbers​

notice it's gone up 1,000 since yesterday

4/24/09 25 confirmed 9 suspected
4/26/09 38 confirmed
4/27/09 73 confirmed 7 deaths
4/28/09 105 confirmed 7 deaths
4/29/09 148 confirmed 8 deaths
4/30/09 257 confirmed 8 deaths
5/1/09 367 confirmed 10 deaths
5/2/09 658 confirmed 17 deaths
5/3/09 898 confirmed 20 deaths
5/4/09 1085 confirmed 26 deaths
5/5/09 1490 confirmed 30 deaths
5/6/09 1893 confirmed 31 deaths
5/7/09 2371 confirmed 44 deaths
5/8/09 2500 confirmed 46 deaths
5/9/09 3440 confirmed 48 deaths
5/10/09 4379 confirmed 49 deaths
5/11/09 4694 confirmed 53 deaths
5/12/09 5251 confirmed 61 deaths
5/13/09 5728 confirmed 61 deaths
5/14/09 6497 confirmed 65 deaths
5/15/09 7520 confirmed 65 deaths
5/16/09 8451 confirmed 72 deaths
5/17/09 8480 confirmed 72 deaths
5/18/09 8829 confirmed 74 deaths
5/19/09 9830 confirmed 79 deaths
 

Sky

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100,000 people are likely infected

CDC officials say around 100,000 people are likely infected with the new flu strain in the United States and Schuchat said the 5,123 confirmed and probable cases and six deaths in the United States were "the tip of the iceberg."

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The new influenza strain circulating around most of the United States is putting a worrying number of young adults and children into the hospital and hitting more schools than usual, U.S. health officials said on Monday.

The H1N1 swine flu virus killed a vice principal at a New York City school over the weekend and has spread to 48 states. While it appears to be mild, it is affecting a disproportionate number of children, teenagers and young adults.

This includes people needing hospitalization -- now up to 200, said Dr. Anne Schuchat of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"That's very unusual, to have so many people under 20 to require hospitalization, and some of them in (intensive care units)," Schuchat told reporters in a telephone briefing.

"We are now experiencing levels of influenza-like illness that are higher than usual for this time of year," Schuchat added. "We are also seeing outbreaks in schools, which is extremely unusual for this time of year."

New York City Health Commissioner Dr. Thomas Frieden agreed with Schuchat.

"We're seeing increasing numbers of people going to emergency departments saying they have fever and flu, particularly young people in the 5 to 17 age group, " Frieden, who has been named by U.S. President Barack Obama as the new CDC director, told a news conference.

About half of all cases of influenza are being diagnosed as the new H1N1 strain, while the rest are influenza B, or the seasonal H1N1 and H3N2 strains. Flu season in the United States is usually almost over by May.

CDC officials say around 100,000 people are likely infected with the new flu strain in the United States and Schuchat said the 5,123 confirmed and probable cases and six deaths in the United States were "the tip of the iceberg."

MORE ILLNESS OVERALL

"We are seeing more reports of influenza-like illness from outpatient visits that we monitor than is typical for this time of year," Schuchat said.

Because doctors usually treat symptoms and only occasionally give flu tests to patients, the CDC must monitor reports of symptoms such as fever, cough and muscle aches to track flu activity. Some centers are doing actual influenza tests to confirm the patterns that are seen.

Influenza is a factor in 36,000 deaths a year in the United States and 250,000 to 500,000 deaths globally, the CDC says.

"Unlike the seasonal flu, we are seeing relatively few cases or hospitalizations in people over 65," Schuchat said. Usually flu kills the elderly and people with chronic diseases.

There is no evidence that a second, bacterial infection is worsening the H1N1 cases, Schuchat said.

When family members are questioned, it seems clear that children and teens are more prone to infection than older adults, Schuchat said. "People under 18 are more likely to have infections when another person in the family is infected," she said.

"One of our working hypotheses is that older adults may have some pre-existing protection against this virus due to their exposure long ago to some virus that may be distantly related," Schuchat said.

An alternative hypothesis is that it just has not had a chance to make its way into the older population yet.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE54H3QO20090518?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=22&sp=true
 

SassyinAZ

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Are they saying it already contains the avial PB2 or they are watching to see if it happens in the future?

41 C is 105.8 F
34 C is 93.2 F

which converts to 93.2 F. I thought the seasonal flu was active in Winter, not in 90+ degree weather.

confused
xr

It already happened since we first began tracking, it mutated, but they didn't know if it would be significant or not, seems that it is.

The newest version of the piggy flu likes warm weather.
 

SassyinAZ

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Here's another school closing, don't recall reading about this one yet, in Massachusetts

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/19501621/detail.html

School Closes After 90 Students Develop Flu-like Symptoms

H1N1 Flu Not Confirmed At Wellesley School


POSTED: 8:42 am EDT May 19, 2009
UPDATED: 8:59 am EDT May 19, 2009

WELLESLEY, Mass. -- A private school in Wellesley, Mass., closed for the week Tuesday after 90 of the school's 500 students were out sick with flu-like symptoms.

A spokeswoman for the Dana Hall School said while they have no "confirmed cases of the H1N1 flu, there are many students with fevers and other flu-like symptoms."

"We have decided to close school for the remainder of the week," said Liza Cohen.

The school plans to reopen after the Memorial Day holiday.

The Massachusetts Department of Public Health has not been advising schools to close if the H1N1 flu is suspected , but the school said it made the decision after consultation with the state and the Wellesley Department of Public Health.
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
CDC officials say around 100,000 people are likely infected with the new flu strain in the United States and Schuchat said the 5,123 confirmed and probable cases and six deaths in the United States were "the tip of the iceberg."

I read somwhere last night, maybe recombinomics website. The figure used by the medical community for estimating the total number of cases is .01% of reported cases. They gave the example of 5,000 cases reported really equated to approx 500,000. I'll go try to dig that quote up.

xr

edited to add:
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05180901/Swine_H1N1_Japan_6.html
Although the CDC estimated that the number of true cases in the US was 100,000, that estimate is likely to be 1-2 orders of magnitude too low. Surveillance in the US detects about 0.1% of true cases, so the 1500 cases in the CDC weekly report would represent 1.5 million cases in the US alone, and this estimate may be low because many cases are mild, and those in regions not reported to have high levels are not tested.

Here's the quote I was referring to. Got the percentages wrong, its x1000 not x100!
 
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DrexHex

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WHO official H1N1 numbers​

notice it's gone up 1,000 since yesterday

4/24/09 25 confirmed 9 suspected
4/26/09 38 confirmed
4/27/09 73 confirmed 7 deaths
4/28/09 105 confirmed 7 deaths
4/29/09 148 confirmed 8 deaths
4/30/09 257 confirmed 8 deaths
5/1/09 367 confirmed 10 deaths
5/2/09 658 confirmed 17 deaths
5/3/09 898 confirmed 20 deaths
5/4/09 1085 confirmed 26 deaths
5/5/09 1490 confirmed 30 deaths
5/6/09 1893 confirmed 31 deaths
5/7/09 2371 confirmed 44 deaths
5/8/09 2500 confirmed 46 deaths
5/9/09 3440 confirmed 48 deaths
5/10/09 4379 confirmed 49 deaths
5/11/09 4694 confirmed 53 deaths
5/12/09 5251 confirmed 61 deaths
5/13/09 5728 confirmed 61 deaths
5/14/09 6497 confirmed 65 deaths
5/15/09 7520 confirmed 65 deaths
5/16/09 8451 confirmed 72 deaths
5/17/09 8480 confirmed 72 deaths
5/18/09 8829 confirmed 74 deaths
5/19/09 9830 confirmed 79 deaths

Thanks for the stats... I made a few graphs for y'all:
 

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Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
Searcher, yes, the death toll is rising...just as I predicted.


Folks, if you don't have meds for it stocked, best get them soon.
 

LONEWOLF

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"Official numbers" are so messed-with, how can us mere mortals ascertain *anything* about this Mexican Swine Flu, and what it means to *Us*??
 

DrexHex

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"Official numbers" are so messed-with, how can us mere mortals ascertain *anything* about this Mexican Swine Flu, and what it means to *Us*??

Agreed. Check out my graph on the % increase in cases over time... it's constantly decreasing...

If a virus spreads to new countries, it should increase almost exponentially. However, the official numbers seem to be saying that it's slowing down. That we're reaching the top of the bell curve, so to speak.

We're not being told everything...
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Agreed. Check out my graph on the % increase in cases over time... it's constantly decreasing...

If a virus spreads to new countries, it should increase almost exponentially. However, the official numbers seem to be saying that it's slowing down. That we're reaching the top of the bell curve, so to speak.

We're not being told everything...

Yeah. If you look at Confirmed Cases vs. the Percent Increase of Cases over time, the two don't seem consistent with each other.
 

SassyinAZ

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How do your numbers jive with the growth rate snoozin had, Drex, curious?

Hang on, if the search is working I'll find it for ya.

Here it is, I was curious and thinking about these numbers last night, because of his numbers projected on the 15th. The 15th was the same day the CDC first said there was 100k cases, half of them likely this flu, so 50k and he was just under 44k -- 50k seems fair enough with existing figures if we are only testing as samples close to 10%

To repeat the progression I posted yesterday:

5-4-09 279 confirmed cases x .6 =167.4 (add to 279 = 446)

5-5-09 403 confirmed cases x .6 = 241.8 (add to 403 = 644)

5-6-09 642 confirmed cases x .6 = 386.4(add to 642 = 1028)

5-7-09 1028 projected, 896 confirmed cases. 1028 x .6 = 616 (add to 1028 = 1644)

5-8-09 1639 confirmed cases - RIGHT ON TARGET FOR EXPONENTIAL GROWTH RATE OF 1.6 per day

If the current growth rate continues, the numbers will begin to mount very, very rapidly. The next week would go like this:

5-9-09 1639 x 1.6 = 2622
5-10-09 2622 x 1.6 = 4195
5-11-09 4195 x 1.6 = 6712
5-12-09 6712 x 1.6 = 10,740
5-13-09 10,740 x 1.6 = 17,184
5-14-09 17,184 x 1.6 = 27,494
5-15-09 27,494 x 1.6 = 43,990

Today's number of 2254 is slightly under a 1.4 increase but still close to the figure given above for today's projected amount. The number hospitalized is 4.6% of cases reported and of course doesn't include those who may already have been discharged.

:zzz:
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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These posts are from a former member here, and are his personal accounts. I find them to be amazingly useful, in terms of seeing how BADLY this is being underreported.

The first posts are from May 16th...

My Nephew has swine flu

He and 11 others have been positively identified as cases. He goes to Travis Elementary which has been shut down until May 26. He seems to be doing OK. The rest of the family is taking Tamiflu.

This was from May 17th:
Just talked to my sister finally. The story is that the kids got sick on Wednesday morning on a field trip. It is the 3rd grade class and mostly boys that were affected. They had to cancel the field trip because so many kids got so sick with fever at the same time.

My sister took him to the doctor on Wednesday and the quick test didn't show flu. By Thursday he had 104 fever and the school said get him tested again. Back to the doctor, positive for flu. They called back later and wanted another sample to send to the Houston Health dept on Friday. That one was positive for H1N1.

His fever abated late Thursday and on Friday he started Tamiflu but also started vomitting. The Tamiflu may have helped because by Saturday he had no more fever and felt much better. Today he is doing fine. The rest of the family is doing Tamiflu.

Now to the underreporting aspect of this. The paper says 12 kids tested positive for Swine Flu, however, get this, there were 80 kids who got sick with fever on Wednesday. It turns out 12 of the first 13 samples sent to the Health Dept were confirmed positive for Swine Flu. It was at that point they shut down the school and quit testing

So the reports of underreporting may well be correct.

What is really interesting about this outbreak is how 80 kids got sick almost simultaneously. To me this says it was the school lunch that probably did it. My sister said she hadn't thought of that but that my nephew does buy his lunch at school........

And an article from the area, with his comments in red:

12 swine flu cases confirmed at Travis Elem.
By TODD ACKERMAN and JENNIFER RADCLIFFE HOUSTON CHRONICLE
May 15, 2009, 10:09PM


Swine flu forced the closure Friday of a Houston elementary school where 12 students have been confirmed to have the virus, the state’s largest outbreak in a single location.(My sister says this is because 12 of the first 13 samples tested positive for swine flue)

Houston Independent School District administrators early Friday afternoon made the decision to close Travis Elementary School until May 26, hours after learning swine flu was one cause of the rampant illness that began spreading Wednesday.

Nearly 400 students stayed home Friday, many because they were ill and others because their parents didn’t want them exposed.(80 of them were sick with fevers, you don't think it's swine flu?)
“The most prudent thing to do was just to close the school,” said HISD spokesman Norm Uhl.

Kathy Barton, spokeswoman for the city’s health department, said she expects more of the Travis students will test positive for the virus, whose outbreak in Mexico caused considerable U.S. concern a few weeks ago but more recently seemed to be on the wane in Houston.

Barton said health officials will never know exactly how many Travis students had swine flu; many won’t see a doctor, and some doctors will treat cases based on symptoms without taking a specimen to send to the city’s laboratory.

The Heights-area school has 712 students.

Friday’s 12 positive tests came from the first 13 samples sent to the lab.

Barton said she expects other viruses were also a cause of some of the illnesses at Travis. She said she wouldn’t characterize all the illnesses as being swine flu.(Oh sure but all the kids on the field trip had fever at the same time from multiple viruses?)

“It’s too early to draw any conclusions about what might have occurred at Travis to cause this explosion of infection,” Barton said. “We will be looking for the answer to that.”(Well I would be looking first in the cafeteria and the employees working in there)

Initially skeptical
Houston health officials first learned of the possible outbreak early Wednesday evening when Travis administrators told them 86 students, mostly third-graders, and some staff had stayed or been sent home with illnesses. Symptoms included fever and stomachaches.(As I said, these kids were on a field trip and they all got sick at the same time. They had to cancel the field trip by noon.)
By Thursday, the number of absent students had grown to 242, though a significant number weren’t sick, just worried about catching what was going around.

Because the symptoms were wide-ranging and spread so quickly without a clear originating case, school and health officials were initially skeptical it was swine flu.

At least one Travis parent was unhappy a decision came only after swine flu tests came back positive Friday. Angela Casillas, whose daughter is sick, said she thinks officials waited too long to shut the school.

“I leave my daughter in their care, and I believed they provided the best possible care that a school can give,” Casillas said. “Now, this situation makes me question that.”

Earlier in the outbreak, following U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations, schools were closing at the likelihood of a single swine flu case, a policy that left about half a million Texas schoolchildren at home early last week.

On May 5, the CDC reversed course and said schools no longer needed to close because the illness caused by the virus was no more severe than seasonal flu.

The CDC said schools could close if an outbreak occurred, but for isolated cases the agency recommended students and staff with flu-like symptoms stay home for at least seven days.

3 days to finish testing
Barton said the health department has ruled out food poisoning as a cause of the illness, but she said seasonal flu and stomach bugs could be a factor.

She said the decision to close the school was HISD’s, not the city’s.

Two staff members have called in sick, HISD officials said.(Apparently these two were third grade teachers) Two others missed work with sick children of their own.

The school year is slated to end May 28, but Uhl said he doesn’t expect those students to have to make up lost time. Students will finish any remaining state tests in the final three days of the year, he said.

Friday afternoon, Travis students were taking the news in stride.

“I’m still being cautious,” said Zoe Vastakis, a fourth-grade student who was taken home by her mother on Friday before HISD decided to close the school. “I’m eating the right foods, trying to wash my hands a lot.”

The 12 swine flu cases brought the city of Houston’s total to 35. The state has had 568 cases, including three deaths, the latest a 33-year-old Corpus Christi man who died May 6.

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My question is whether or not his suspiscion that it was "food related" is valid, OR whether it's possible this thing has changed enough to be contagious through AEROSOL methods. God help us if that's true...

Summerthyme
 

DrexHex

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How do your numbers jive with the growth rate snoozin had, Drex, curious?

Hang on, if the search is working I'll find it for ya.

Here it is, I was curious and thinking about these numbers last night, because of his numbers projected on the 15th. The 15th was the same day the CDC first said there was 100k cases, half of them likely this flu, so 50k and he was just under 44k -- 50k seems fair enough with existing figures if we are only testing as samples close to 10%

I'm only using the confirmed cases according to the CDC, not probable.
 

SassyinAZ

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That makes sense, Summerthyme, as they only test about 10% as a sample in a cluster, they'd assume though that all 80 of those were infected and treat them the same.

The numbers will show 12 confirmed though, actually since then it's up to 23 confirmations from that same school -- the confirmations will never show the true amount and if we can assume the 10% sampling is close to accurate, that let's you know how big it really is.

The food rumor is accurate, though it wasn't the food itself or food poisoning as the parents were first thinking, it was a cafeteria worker that also tested positive, thought to be whatever you call the one person that first starts the spreading.
 

SassyinAZ

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I'm only using the confirmed cases according to the CDC, not probable.

Nodding, but as of the 15th, the CDC combined them.

ETA: Wait, I just looked at your graphs again, those are based on the WHO confirmations.

Here's the CDC cumulative totals, including today:

CDC cumulative totals (as of 5/14 reporting probable/confirmed cases combined):

xtreme right:
4/26/09 20 confirmed cases
4/27/09 40 confirmed cases
4/28/09 64 confirmed cases
4/29/09 91 confirmed cases
4/30/09 109 confirmed cases
5/01/09 141 confirmed cases
5/02/09 160 confirmed cases
5/03/09 226 confirmed cases
5/04/09 279 confirmed cases
5/05/09 403 confirmed cases
5/06/09 642 confirmed cases
5/07/09 896 confirmed cases
5/08/09 1639 confirmed cases
5/09/09 2254 confirmed cases
5/10/09 2532 confirmed cases
5/11/09 2600 confirmed cases
5/12/09 3009 confirmed cases
5/13/09 3352 confirmed cases
5/14/09 4298 confirmed cases
5/15/09 4714 confirmed cases
5/18/09 5123 confirmed cases, 5 deaths
5/19/09 5469 confirmed cases, 6 deaths

And WHO, including today:

xtreme right:
4/24/09 25 confirmed 9 suspected
4/26/09 38 confirmed
4/27/09 73 confirmed 7 deaths
4/28/09 105 confirmed 7 deaths
4/29/09 148 confirmed 8 deaths
4/30/09 257 confirmed 8 deaths
5/1/09 367 confirmed 10 deaths
5/2/09 658 confirmed 17 deaths
5/3/09 898 confirmed 20 deaths
5/4/09 1085 confirmed 26 deaths
5/5/09 1490 confirmed 30 deaths
5/6/09 1893 confirmed 31 deaths
5/7/09 2371 confirmed 44 deaths
5/8/09 2500 confirmed 46 deaths
5/9/09 3440 confirmed 48 deaths
5/10/09 4379 confirmed 49 deaths
5/11/09 4694 confirmed 53 deaths
5/12/09 5251 confirmed 61 deaths
5/13/09 5728 confirmed 61 deaths
5/14/09 6497 confirmed 65 deaths
5/15/09 7520 confirmed 65 deaths
5/16/09 8451 confirmed 72 deaths
5/17/09 8480 confirmed 72 deaths
5/18/09 8829 confirmed 74 deaths
5/19/09 9830 confirmed 79 deaths.

The percentages you quoted from Dr. Niman, were based on the CDC numbers for the US, I don't know if they would translate right to the WHO numbers, who (lol or should that be which), are more behind than even our own.
 
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Catbird

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A little more detail on the Missouri death.

From: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N19445658.htm

"Missouri reports man's death from swine flu
19 May 2009 19:22:28 GMT
Source: Reuters
ST. LOUIS, May 19 (Reuters) - A 44-year-old man diagnosed with the new H1N1 flu died in a hospital on Tuesday, the seventh person to die in the United States from the new virus, St Louis County health officials said.

An investigation will be conducted to confirm if so-called swine flu was the cause of the unnamed man's death, according to the St. Louis County Health Department. He had become ill two weeks ago after traveling in Mexico last month, a county spokesman said.

The World Health Organization reports 79 deaths globally and nearly 10,000 confirmed cases."
 

Catbird

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Update on Indiana.

From: http://www.wbiw.com/state/archives/2009/05/96_cases_of_swine_flu_now_conf.php

96 Cases Of Swine Flu Now Confirmed In Indiana
Last updated on Tuesday, May 19, 2009

"(INDIANAPOLIS) - More cases of H1N1 flu have turned up in Indiana.

The Indiana State Department of Health reports two new cases in Marion County and eight new cases in Lake County.

It brings the total number of cases in the state to 96.

The Health Department says most of the patients are between five and 24 years-old.


The state has no reported cases of swine flu in people 65 years-old and older.

There are no reported deaths from the virus in Indiana. Daviess County is the closest county to the listening area with a case of this H1N1 flu virus.

There was one new reported hospitalization in association with the virus, however that person has been discharged from the hospital and is now symptom free."
 

Catbird

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The latest on Illinois.

FRom: http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/national-17/124274809458520.xml&storylist=health

"A look at Illinois swine flu cases
5/19/2009, 8:18 a.m. PDT
The Associated Press
The Associated Press

(AP) — Illinois health officials have updated the state's swine flu numbers. A case is "confirmed" when additional laboratory testing backs up initial test results. Until then, the case is called "probable."

The state began doing its own confirmation tests on May 3, which meant quicker turnaround on results and large increases in confirmed cases.

The tally, as time goes on, will show largely the most serious cases because doctors are following the state's recommendation to test only severely ill patients. The virus has turned out to be milder than initially feared, so many mild cases may not be counted.

Boone: 6 confirmed.

Chicago: 300 confirmed.

Cook (suburban): 219 confirmed.

DeKalb: 1 confirmed.

DuPage: 50 confirmed.

Franklin: 1 confirmed.

Kane: 28 confirmed.

Kankakee: 1 confirmed.

Kendall: 1 confirmed.

Knox: 3 confirmed.

Lake: 29 confirmed.

McDonough: 1 confirmed.

McHenry: 3 confirmed.

Ogle: 2 confirmed.

Sangamon: 1 confirmed.

Will: 45 confirmed.

Williamson: 1 confirmed.

Winnebago: 9 confirmed.

Undetermined: 6 confirmed.

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Total: 707 confirmed.

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Source: Illinois Department of Public Health.
 

SassyinAZ

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This will be ugly

http://wcbstv.com/local/rikers.island.jail.2.1013198.html

Prison Outbreak? 4 More Have Swine Flu At Rikers

Bloomberg Confirms Latest Cases, Says 4 Others Are Probable For Virus


Four inmates at Rikers Island have been confirmed to have the swine flu and four more are considered probable for the virus, Mayor Michael Bloomberg confirmed Tuesday morning.

"Correction and health officials are monitoring the situation and preparing to implement additional health screening and where needed, isolation of ill inmates," Bloomberg said. "It is in some senses easier to control because obviously the prisoners can't leave on the other hand, it is also a confined area where we really don't have the choice of moving people out and asking them to stay home."


Corrections Officers' Benevolent Association President Norman Seabrook has suggestd since Friday that inmates and staff from the Ann M. Kross Center, as well as the North Infirmary Command, be transferred to other jails until the city completes a full investigation. Seabrook has called on the city to immediately close any facilities where swine flu has been discovered so they can be thoroughly cleaned.

"The entire facility needs to be decontaminated ... just like any other facility under the watch of the mayor," said Seabrook, after a Rikers Island inmate was first hospitalized on Wednesday.

The inmate, whose name and reason for being in custody weren't released, was improving since his hospitalization and wasn't in serious condition, Department of Correction spokesman Stephen Morello said.

The inmate entered the 2,600-inmate Anna M. Kross Center about a month ago and complained of cough and fever, Morello said. He was transferred to Elmhurst Hospital in Queens and on Friday was diagnosed with a probable case of swine flu, Morello said.

Meanwhile the number of New York City schools ordered closed amid rapidly growing fears of swine flu has grown to 17 after the Health Department annouced four more schools will shut down and two Manhattan private schools said it would be closing its doors as well.

Symptoms of the swine flu include fever, cough, sore throat, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. Some people have reported diarrhea and vomiting as well. Anyone experiencing severe symptoms, such as difficulty breathing, should seek health care and treatment. The best way to prevent additional cases of flu in schools is to stay home when sick, cover your mouth when coughing and sneezing, and wash hands frequently.

For those who are ill, the recommendation is to stay home until they are symptom-free for at least 24 hours.

Eating pork or pork products cannot spread the swine flu.
 

SassyinAZ

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This is a prime example as to why I continually doubt & question flu info being released by the gov't & media. Just yesterday I read a report that this person had gout (post 3447), now maybe he did & maybe he didn't- and that may be just one of his pre-existing medical conditions... and what of this "experimental drug" that was used? None of the "official info" seems to add up & the stories change so much from day to day.

I am not saying that there isn't a genuine threat, but I really question just HOW MUCH of a real threat this flu is. I have seen gov't reports & how easily "cause of death" stats can be skewed- for instance the smoking lobby... if you are driving down the road while smoking and die in a car accident that can be called a "smoking related death"...

Bottom line, how much of this Flu stuff is PSYOPS and how much of it is REAL??? Why is it so virulent & fast-spreading in some places (colleges in particular) and not in others? None of this seems to make sense.

I interpret the media (including CDC and WHO, one and two weeks behind the reality) the same as you, absolutely not credible, except exactly opposite message for me.

The numbers are down-played and untimely and characterized as "minor" with virtually no containment measures having been enacted. Those who ask questions or try to get answers or get some mitigation are mocked and told they are trying to cause a panic (now dead Asst. Principal in NYC).

Ditto for the deaths, they've almost a blame the victim going on calling everything from valid heart disease to gout and seasonal allergies a chronic underlying medical condition. My personal fave is obesity, and the only one that is true for was the man in WA who was 400 lbs. They have said mild means anyone not requiring a ventilator.

The "experimental drug" that was used, was used because he had severe kidney failure, required dialysis and there was nothing else, it was that man's last shot.

We aren't supposed to know the real numbers, we aren't even supposed to know about the outbreak and pandemic (we knew about this strain in early April, long before Mexico), and did nothing.

It spreads fast in colleges and hospitals (and airplanes and jails and cruise ships and sports events) because people are confirmed and breathing together in close proximity.

The almighty buck is the bottom line, not your health or mine.

The only PSYCHOPS going on is the perception that this is mild, under control, and not both increasing and spreading; that you should not prepare, don't need to prepare, and just need to wash your hands and cough into your sleeve.

Reminds me of when Shep Smith was standing in NOLA saying they had dodged the bullet, same phrasing being used too, funny that.
 

SassyinAZ

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LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - Pulaski County's coroner says investigators are probing whether a 28-year-old offshore oil worker's death may have been caused by the swine flu.

Camper says samples taken from the man tested positive for several strains of flu, requiring his office to explore the possibility swine flu played a part in the death.

Maybe someone can find the link?

I still can't search, oy, am I the only one having that problem?

This was previously posted though, both that he died with multiple strains of flu virus and that he did NOT test positive for swine flu.

It doesn't make sense, there was some speculation that he didn't get tested in a timely manner and that it could have been after tamiflu treatment so it wouldn't have shown up.

Either way, such goes the manipulations, he wasn't a confirmed swine flu death.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I interpret the media (including CDC and WHO, one and two weeks behind the reality) the same as you, absolutely not credible, except exactly opposite message for me.

The numbers are down-played and untimely and characterized as "minor" with virtually no containment measures having been enacted. Those who ask questions or try to get answers or get some mitigation are mocked and told they are trying to cause a panic (now dead Asst. Principal in NYC).

Ditto for the deaths, they've almost a blame the victim going on calling everything from valid heart disease to gout and seasonal allergies a chronic underlying medical condition. My personal fave is obesity, and the only one that is true for was the man in WA who was 400 lbs. They have said mild means anyone not requiring a ventilator.

The "experimental drug" that was used, was used because he had severe kidney failure, required dialysis and there was nothing else, it was that man's last shot.

We aren't supposed to know the real numbers, we aren't even supposed to know about the outbreak and pandemic (we knew about this strain in early April, long before Mexico), and did nothing.

It spreads fast in colleges and hospitals (and airplanes and jails and cruise ships and sports events) because people are confirmed and breathing together in close proximity.

The almighty buck is the bottom line, not your health or mine.

The only PSYCHOPS going on is the perception that this is mild, under control, and not both increasing and spreading; that you should not prepare, don't need to prepare, and just need to wash your hands and cough into your sleeve.

Reminds me of when Shep Smith was standing in NOLA saying they had dodged the bullet, same phrasing being used too, funny that.

AMEN, Sassy!!!

This is one UGLY bug. The "mild" cases (those who don't require hospitalization) still report being "sicker than I can remember" and "I seriously thought I might die from this". A poster over at TOL reported that she and her husband (both elderly) had it, and were literally too ill to even attempt to get to their doctor's office.

However, the reaction by the poster questioning if this "pandemic" even exists is probably exactly what the moronic government stooges are hoping for... confuse the issue enough, only release the statistics which you're forced to, don't test any more cases than you absolutely can't avoid... and hope the general public just keeps running around with their heads up the.. um, in the clouds... and keeps spending money. :screw:

People- if you care about your family's health, you'd better take this seriously. Sure, it MIGHT fizzle out. But it appears to be getting more efficient at being transmitted (I have to wonder WHAT that "cafeteria worker" who infected all those kids at the Travis Elementary school in Texas DID to the food!) and right now, the death rate is WITH TamiFlu WORKING

We've already seen that TamiFlu resistance builds up quickly in these fast mutating viruses- the H5N1 strain has shown that clearly. WHEN (Not IF) this H1N1 strain becomes resistant, we're suddenly going to see the "mild" cases (Mild WITH TamiFlu) suddenly need major supportive care in the hospital if they are to have any chance of survival. And we do NOT have the bed capacity to take care of more than a tiny, tiny percentage of those.

I have no idea what the official story line is meant to achieve, but I'm not buying it.

Summerthyme
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
California, 333 confirmed and 220 probable cases (no updates since the 15th), 30 required hospitalization (5 of which were pregnant); no deaths; 2/3 had at least one underlying medical condition; 13% required hospitalization.

http://www.kcra.com/health/19506148/detail.html

Calif. Records 30 H1N1 Flu Hospitalizations

No Flu-Related Deaths Reported In State

POSTED: 1:17 pm PDT May 19, 2009
UPDATED: 1:46 pm PDT May 19, 2009

LOS ANGELES -- A new report has documented 30 H1N1 flu-related hospitalizations, formerly known as swine flu, in California since the start of the outbreak.

There have been no deaths. The majority recovered though some experienced more severe symptoms.

Tuesday's report published by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that two-thirds of those hospitalized had at least one underlying medical condition such as chronic lung or heart disease or a weak immune system.

Thirteen percent needed ventilators. None were exposed to pigs.

Five hospitalizations were pregnant women, underscoring that expectant mothers face an increased risk from any form of flu.

As of Sunday, the state has recorded 333 confirmed and 220 probable cases.
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
Massachusetts

More hospitalization numbers, 8% here

http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO113731/

4 news cases of swine flu identified in Mass.

Tuesday, May 19, 2009

BOSTON -- Four new cases of swine flu have been confirmed in Massachusetts, raising the total to 171.

The state Public Health Department said Tuesday none of the newly confirmed cases were hospitalized.

The new cases were in Essex, Middlesex, Suffolk and Worcester Counties. Middlesex has had the most confirmed swine flu cases in Massachusetts with 103.

So far, only 8 percent of swine flu cases have required hospitalization.

On Tuesday, three Massachusetts schools announced they were closing for a week after unusually high levels of influenza-like illness in recent days. Public health officials said they hope that the temporary closure of the three schools will prevent new infections and avoid unnecessary illness
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
Additional details on the man from St Louis that died today.

http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-st-louis-swine-flu-death-051909,0,209223.story

KTVI
St. Louis Man With Swine Flu Dies
May 19, 2009

ST. LOUIS, MO (AP) --

A 44-year-old St. Louis County man diagnosed with swine flu after traveling to Mexico died Tuesday, state and county health officials said. The man's name was not released. He died Tuesday morning at an undisclosed St. Louis area hospital. Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services spokesman Kit Wagar said the man had a confirmed case of swine flu.

But an autopsy and further testing is necessary to determine if the illness killed him or if another underlying illness caused his death, health officials said. "It's an unusual case in what otherwise appeared to be a healthy individual," said St. Louis County health director, Dr. Dolores Gunn. She said it could be several weeks before the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirms the cause of death.

State and county health officials said the man traveled to Mexico last month, then became ill after returning home. He went to his doctor, then to an urgent care center about a week later on May 9, then to the hospital. He was being treated with anti-viral medication, Gunn said. "We're asking residents to remain cautious, but not alarmed," she said. She repeated the importance of good hygiene, like thorough hand-washing and covering up a cough to prevent the spread of illnesses.

If swine flu is confirmed as the cause of death, the man would be the first person in Missouri to die during the current outbreak of the disease. Five people in the U.S. have died, and another U.S. death is being investigated for swine flu.

Missouri has reported 20 cases of swine flu.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said 47 states plus the District of Columbia have a combined 5,123 confirmed and probable cases of swine flu. And the World Health Organization said 40 countries have reported more than 9,830 cases, mostly in the U.S. and Mexico. Global deaths before the St. Louis County case were at 80 -- 72 in Mexico, six in the U.S., one each in Canada and Costa Rica.
 

Catbird

Inactive
The latest on Kansas.

From: http://www.nebraska.tv/Global/story.asp?S=10388168

"3 new Kansas flu cases confirmed

Associated Press - May 19, 2009 12:14 PM ET

TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) - Kansas has three new confirmed cases of swine flu, raising the total number of cases in the state to 49 since the outbreak began in late April.

The Kansas Department of Health and Environment said Tuesday that one new case was a child in Saline County, while the other two were a child and an adult in Riley County.

The health agency is updating its count each morning, reflecting changes in confirmations from the previous day.

So far, the number of confirmed cases in each county is at two in Dickinson, one in Ford, nine in Geary, 11 in Johnson, one in Ottawa, nine in Riley, four in Saline, one in Sedgwick and 11 in Wyandotte."
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
UK

http://www.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/...at-three-schools-in-richmond-109642-23664863/

Swine Flu at three schools in Richmond

May 19 2009
By Helen Clarke

THE SPREAD of swine flu in Richmond continued this week with another two schools being forced to close because of the infection.

Barnes Primary School and Lady Eleanor Holles School locked their gates as pupils fell ill - and they will remain closed until after the half term break.


The cases were confirmed as Hampton School reopened on May 18, after closing for a week when four pupils tested positive for the H1N1 virus.

At Barnes Primary School all year three pupils were given the anti-viral drug Tamiflu in a bid to prevent the spread of the virus.

Parents of girls at fee paying Lady Eleanor Holles were warned to contact their GP or NHS Direct if their child develops flu like symptoms. Pupils from the school had shared a coach with the first year Hampton School pupil, who was diagnosed two weeks ago.

Hampton's acting headteacher Pippa Message thanked parents and staff for their support and for keeping calm. She said the school had followed the Health Protection Agency's advice.

"The HPA has reiterated its advice as follows," she said. "As the incubation period for influenza may be up to seven days, reported cases may well have acquired their infection before the School closure. As the School has been closed for longer than the incubation period, any new cases related to contact whilst in School would have presented by now.

"Advice was given that pupils should not mix in large groups outside School during this period as an additional measure to control the spread of infection.

"Those who have been confirmed to have the influenza infection A type H1N1 are advised not to return to School until they are well and for at least seven days after their illness started. They should also have completed their ‘Tamiflu’ medication."
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
Here's the CDC detail from today, they aren't including the Asst Principal's death yet :mad: BUT they do show an additional death in Arizona, WTF

Are they confused or has there been another death?

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm

Alabama 61 cases 0 deaths
Arkansas 3 cases 0 deaths
Arizona 488 cases 2 deaths
California 553 cases 0 deaths
Colorado 56 cases 0 deaths
Connecticut 56 cases 0 deaths
Delaware 69 cases 0 deaths
Florida 103 cases 0 deaths
Georgia 25 cases 0 deaths
Hawaii 21 cases 0 deaths
Idaho 8 cases 0 deaths
Illinois 707 cases 0 deaths
Indiana 96 cases 0 deaths
Iowa 71 cases 0 deaths
Kansas 34 cases 0 deaths
Kentucky** 16 cases 0 deaths
Louisiana 65 cases 0 deaths
Maine 10 cases 0 deaths
Maryland 39 cases 0 deaths
Massachusetts 156 cases 0 deaths
Michigan 165 cases 0 deaths
Minnesota 38 cases 0 deaths
Mississippi 4 cases 0 deaths
Missouri 20 cases 0 deaths
Montana 9 cases 0 deaths
Nebraska 28 cases 0 deaths
Nevada 31 cases 0 deaths
New Hampshire 20 cases 0 deaths
New Jersey 18 cases 0 deaths
New Mexico 68 cases 0 deaths
New York 267 cases 0 deaths
North Carolina 12 cases 0 deaths
North Dakota 3 cases 0 deaths
Ohio 13 cases 0 deaths
Oklahoma 42 cases 0 deaths
Oregon 94 cases 0 deaths
Pennsylvania 55 cases 0 deaths
Rhode Island 8 cases 0 deaths
South Carolina 36 cases 0 deaths
South Dakota 4 cases 0 deaths
Tennessee 85 cases 0 deaths
Texas 556 cases 3 deaths
Utah 91 cases 0 deaths
Vermont 1 cases 0 deaths
Virginia 23 cases 0 deaths
Washington 362 cases 1 death
Washington, D.C. 13 cases 0 deaths
Wisconsin 766 cases 0 deaths
TOTAL*(48) 5,469 cases 6 deaths
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
DrexHex, Sassy, et al.
I would appreciate a daily update with the graphs. It gives the news in a format I can quickly grasp.
I understand that it is pressing issues to ask other people, especially the savants in a field, to present information that requires work. If you can't do it, I understand. Actually, every other day would probably be sufficient.
Thanks again for your talent and diligence.
SS
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
DrexHex, Sassy, et al.
I would appreciate a daily update with the graphs. It gives the news in a format I can quickly grasp.
I understand that it is pressing issues to ask other people, especially the savants in a field, to present information that requires work. If you can't do it, I understand. Actually, every other day would probably be sufficient.
Thanks again for your talent and diligence.
SS

Me too, SS, I can pass on the numbers but have no math skills to post about, lol, I'm hoping someone is willing to do the same myself.

There are updated WHO graphs here if they help you at all: http://trancy.net/graphs
 

diamonds

Administrator
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LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - Pulaski County's coroner says investigators are probing whether a 28-year-old offshore oil worker's death may have been caused by the swine flu.

Camper says samples taken from the man tested positive for several strains of flu, requiring his office to explore the possibility swine flu played a part in the death.

Maybe someone can find the link?

Possible Swine Flu Death in Little Rock

The death of a 28-year-old man in a Little Rock hospital over the weekend could be linked to the H1N1 virus better known as Swine Flu.

That's according to Pulaski County Coroner Garland Camper , who tells KARK 4 that the man's autopsy revealed he had suffered from more than one strain of flu. Camper calls that "somewhat unusual."

Camper says the man was an offshore oil worker who had been in the hospital with flu-like symptoms, and had reportedly been ill for weeks.

The man has not been identified since the investigation is not complete.

His body is now at the State Crime Lab to comply with guidelines set by the Centers for Disease Control when Swine Flu is suspected of being related to a death.
http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=222431
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
I've been updating the States on the list, yeah one by one, I don't know what to do about Florida -- they've 69 confirmed cases today but had 101 per the CDC yesterday :shr:

ETA: Nevermind, they appear to have gone the route of letting the CDC be their mouthpiece, 103 per CDC as of today, FL state site still showing 69.
 

Catbird

Inactive
Okay, I believe I've found it.

From: http://www.kpho.com/health/19508608/detail.html

H1N1 Death Reported On Reservation

POSTED: 4:49 pm MST May 19, 2009
UPDATED: 5:03 pm MST May 19, 2009

"PHOENIX -- The Arizona Department of Health Services confirmed Tuesday afternoon that another person in the state has died of the H1N1 flu.

The person died on the Gila River Indian Reservation, the heath department said.
Calls to the reservation were not immediately returned

The first H1N1 flu death occurred in Maricopa County. The female victim, who was in her 40s, was also suffering from a lung condition, authorities said.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention listed two fatalities for Arizona on its Web site, but it was unclear when the second death occurred. In total, 488 confirmed and probable cases of H1N1 flu in the state.

"Unfortunately, we knew this was coming," said Dr. Bob England, director of Maricopa Department of Public Health, after the first death was announced. "Flu is serious, especially for those with underlying health conditions.""
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
Possible Swine Flu Death in Little Rock

The death of a 28-year-old man in a Little Rock hospital over the weekend could be linked to the H1N1 virus better known as Swine Flu.

That's according to Pulaski County Coroner Garland Camper , who tells KARK 4 that the man's autopsy revealed he had suffered from more than one strain of flu. Camper calls that "somewhat unusual."

Camper says the man was an offshore oil worker who had been in the hospital with flu-like symptoms, and had reportedly been ill for weeks.

The man has not been identified since the investigation is not complete.

His body is now at the State Crime Lab to comply with guidelines set by the Centers for Disease Control when Swine Flu is suspected of being related to a death.
http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=222431

Yeahhhhhhhh, I can search again!!!

He tested negative, Diamonds, hokiness with him though because he was originally a preliminary positive.

There was previous discussion and speculation that he may have officially tested negative because they didn't test him soon enough after his death and/or he received anti-viral treatment.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showpost.php?p=3393861&postcount=3499
 
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