[INTL] Wreckage of missing Afghan plane found

Relic

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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=7539857&src=rss/worldNews

Source: Wreckage of Missing Afghan Plane Found
Fri Feb 4, 2005 07:13 AM ET


By Jon Hemming
KABUL (Reuters) - The wreckage of an Afghan airliner that went missing with 104 people on board was found Friday near the capital, Kabul, a day after it was turned away because of heavy snow, a Western security source said.

The Kam Air Boeing 737 was found to the northeast of the capital, but the security source did not say if there were any survivors.

NATO troops and helicopters have been searching for the plane, which was on a flight from the western city of Herat to Kabul Thursday when it went missing after being turned away from Kabul airport.

At least seven of the 96 passengers were foreigners and six of the eight crew members were from Kyrgyzstan, Kam Air deputy director Feda Mohammed Fedayi said.

The foreigners included three American women working for a Massachusetts-based company, Management Sciences for Health, its Kabul representative William Schiffbauer said.

"We don't know if there were any survivors," the security source said, adding that the passengers included five international aid workers and nine Turkish nationals.

Deputy Interior Minister Shah Mahmoud Miakhel told Reuters earlier the plane may not have had sufficient fuel to enable it to fly as far as an airport in Pakistan.

"It did not have so much fuel to enable it to fly far," he said.

Kam Air financial controller Zimarai Kamgar said the aircraft had contacted Peshawar airport in northwestern Pakistan about an hour after it was turned away from Kabul at about 4 p.m. (11:30 a.m. GMT) Thursday.

"It was given clearance to land, but it never arrived," Kamgar told Reuters.

Pakistani aviation officials said the plane had never made contact.

Kam Air opened as Afghanistan's only private airline in November 2003. It flies leased aircraft between Kabul and Dubai and Istanbul and operates several domestic routes. In September, an Antonov-24 operated by the airline went off the runway while landing in Kabul, slightly injuring some of the 27 passengers aboard, apparently after engine trouble.

In early 1998, 51 people died when an Antonov transport plane operated by state-run Ariana Afghan Airlines crashed in mountains near the southwestern Pakistani city of Quetta after failing to land in Afghanistan because of bad weather.

In March that year, 45 people were killed when another Ariana plane, a Boeing 727, slammed into a mountain near Kabul.

In the most recent air crash in Afghanistan, three U.S. military personnel and three civilian crew were killed when a U.S. transport aircraft crashed in central mountains in November.
 
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ARUBI

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11:30am

FOXnews is reporting that contrary to various news services, NATO troops are reporting that the plane has not been found :confused:
 

ARUBI

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"But NATO troops searching for the plane denied it had been found and said they were calling off their hunt for the day because of darkness and bad weather.

The security source said the Kam Air Boeing 737 was found to the northeast of the capital, but there was no word on casualties.

"We don't know if there were any survivors," he said.

A U.S. military spokesman said he could not confirm if the plane had been found, but spokesmen for a NATO-led peacekeeping force and the Afghan Defence Ministry said it had not.

"The crash site has not been definitely detected," said an Afghan Presidential Palace official on condition of anonymity. "A suspected site was seen, but the aircraft could not land there to confirm it because of poor weather."

The aircraft was flying from the western city of Herat to Kabul on Thursday when it went missing after being turned away from Kabul airport."

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/new...0356Z_01_CHA416906_RTRUKOC_0_AFGHAN-CRASH.xml
 

ARUBI

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1am 2-5-05 FOXnews just annouced they had recieved word that the search for the plane had been resumed.
 

ARUBI

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Search to resume for missing Afghan plane. 05/02/2005. ABC News Online

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200502/s1296664.htm]


Last Update: Saturday, February 5, 2005. 2:38pm (AEDT)

An Afghan soldier guards the Kam Air office in Kabul (file photo). (AFP)

Search to resume for missing Afghan plane
NATO and Afghan forces are to resume efforts to recover an Afghan passenger jet believed to have crashed with 104 passengers and crew on board.

At least 16 foreigners are believed to be on board.

"The search will continue tomorrow in eastern, north-eastern and south-eastern areas of Kabul," Afghan Defence Ministry spokesman General Mohammad Zahir Azimi said.

The private Kam Air Boeing 737 has been missing since Thursday afternoon (local time), when it disappeared from radar screens just outside Kabul.

The plane was on route to the capital from the western city of Herat.

Officials say it had asked permission to divert to the north-western Pakistani city of Peshwawar because of a blizzard, but then all contact was lost.

On Friday, NATO-led peacekeepers troops and Afghan forces launched a huge hunt for the aircraft once it became clear that it had not landed at any other nearby airports.

The search was later cancelled because of poor light.

Kabul is surrounded by mountains and Afghanistan's rugged landscape, 40 per cent of which is 1,800 metres or more above sea level, presenting a challenge to pilots.

Missing

Nine Turks and an Italian are confirmed as being among the 96 passengers, while three American women are thought to have been on the plane.

Officials say six Russian and two Afghan crew members were also on board.

Kam Air is the first privately run Afghan airline and was launched in November 2003 with a fleet comprising a Boeing 767, a Boeing 727, an Antonov 24 and the Boeing 737 which has been missing since Thursday.

The airline connects several towns in Afghanistan and also has international flights to Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.

Conflicting reports

Western security officials and a source close to the search mission have told AFP that the wreckage of the aircraft has been found east of Kabul, but the Afghan Government denies it has found the 737.

The security official says the plane was found 35 kilometres east of Kabul.

"We don't know if there are any survivors," the source said.

Turkish officials also say the jet has crashed.

-AFP
 

summerthyme

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But even stranger is that Hindustan Times story that the plain was SAFE on the ground in Peshawar??!

Indo-Asian News Service

Kabul, February 4, 2005|13:37 IST

An Afghan passenger airplane that got caught in an unprecedented snowstorm and was reported missing on late Thursday has landed safely in Peshawar in Pakistan, reports Xinhua.

A Boeing-737 of Kam Air, Afghanistan's sole private airline operator, scheduled to fly back from the western border city of Herat to Kabul, was diverted to Peshawar due to the snowstorm in the area.

"Now the airplane is in Peshawar," airline officials said. "And 36 passengers among a total of some 100 will be flown to their destination on Friday if weather permits."

It was not immediately clear when the rest of the passengers will be flown to their destination.

Kam Air started operation in 2003 with the backbone of its fleet comprising second-hand Boeing 737s on lease from Western countries. It operates mainly domestic flights linking Kabul with Herat, Mazar-e-Sharif and Kandahar in the south.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/...00500020005.htm

Summerthyme
 

ARUBI

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Afghan plane wreckage found, no survivors (updated AM 00:01)


2005/2/6
BAND-E GHAZI, Afghanistan, Reuters



Dutch military helicopters on Saturday found the wreckage of an Afghan passenger jet that crashed in a snow storm near the capital Kabul two days ago, killing all 104 people on board.
The crew of the Apache helicopters spotted the tail end of the Boeing 737 plane and other debris strewn across snow-covered mountains above the village of Band-e Ghazi, some 30 km (19 miles) southeast of Kabul, NATO-led peacekeepers said.

"There are no survivors from the crash," an Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman said. "We will begin to evacuate and retrieve the bodies."

But an Afghan military helicopter was later unable to land as snow and fog covered the crash site making the mountainous area look like an almost featureless white landscape.

The aircraft, operated by the private Afghan airline Kam Air, disappeared off radar screens three minutes after failing to land at Kabul airport. The airport is located on a high plain surrounded by mountains and lacks electronic facilities to help pilots land in bad weather.

The plane, with 96 passengers and eight crew, was travelling from the western city of Herat, a busy route for Afghan businessmen and foreign aid workers returning Kabul.


FOREIGNERS ON BOARD


Nine Turks, four Americans, an Italian naval captain, two other Italians and an Iranian working for an international non-governmental organization were among the dead.

Six of the eight crew were also foreigners, four of them Russian, the Russian Interfax news agency said. The plane was leased from a company in Kyrgyzstan.

"Dutch AH-64 Apache helicopters that were searching for the missing Kam Air Boeing 737 found the wreckage at 1:37 p.m. (0907 GMT)," said a statement from NATO peacekeepers in Kabul. "The crash site is 3,300 meters (11,000 feet) above sea level."

The NATO-led International Security Assistance Force sent specialist mountain rescue teams to the area.

More than 1,000 Afghan soldiers were joined by around 100 NATO ground troops scouring the mountainous, snow-bound area on Saturday while helicopters clattered overhead.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/i_latestdetail.asp?id=26195
 

ARUBI

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Summerthyme,

It looks like the hindustantimes pulled their article, ck. the link you gave.
 

NVBadBoy

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It sounds like Controlled Flight Into Terrain (CTIF).

Airports like these (high altitude with mountains and peaks protruding past 7000 feet) should have a minimum safe altitude warning system (MSAWS) installed.

Another option would be for GPWS or GPS to be installed with topographic maps that will alert the crew of terrain, well in advance of just seconds before impact.

I think that this might have been prevented had the crew already made arrangements for a new airport. Immediately get back to 15K feet and maintain 250KTS or more with a trimmed plane. Once you hear 'Terrain, Pull Up' and 'Minimums', it's usually too late.
But, what do I know...


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