FOOD Comment by grocery store cashier

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
I made a prep run to the grocery store today. I struck up a conversation with the cashier and mentioned that I remember when Kraft macaroni and cheese was fifty cents a box. She said that she remembers when it was 3 for a dollar. I said yup, when it was on sale. I said something about how food probably will never be as cheap as it is now. She said what people don't realize is that when this harvest comes in this fall, it is going to be gone, that's it.
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
I made a prep run to the grocery store today. I struck up a conversation with the cashier and mentioned that I remember when Kraft macaroni and cheese was fifty cents a box. She said that she remembers when it was 3 for a dollar. I said yup, when it was on sale. I said something about how food probably will never be as cheap as it is now. She said what people don't realize is that when this harvest comes in this fall, it is going to be gone, that's it.

I don't understand her comment.

What do you harvest in the fall?
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
I remember when they were 4 for a dollar and they weren't on sale. I had seen them 6 for a dollar when they were on sale.

Sheesh. Times have sure changed changed. :)
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
I don't understand her comment.

What do you harvest in the fall?

I paraphrased her. She may not have used the word fall and may have just said, "when the harvest comes in."
She mumbled a list of crops. Corn being one of them.
 

Bolt

FJB
I don't understand her comment.

What do you harvest in the fall?

Lots of things. Beets, brussels sprouts, broccoli, peas, carrots, lettuce, cress, turnips, squash, cauliflower, radish, cabbage, most greens including spinach to name some. I'm sure there are more.
 

the watcher

Inactive
By the fall, it will be all over but the crying.
Beef Herd Tumbles to 40-Year Low After Feed Costs Surge

The worst U.S. drought in a half century and record feed prices are spurring farmers to shrink cattle herds to the smallest in two generations, driving beef prices higher.

Beef output will slump to a nine-year low in 2013 after drought damaged pastures from Missouri to Montana, the U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates. The domestic herd is now the smallest since at least 1973, and retail prices reached a record last month, USDA data show. Cattle futures may rise 8.1 percent to an all-time high of $1.35 a pound in Chicago in the next 12 months, said Rich Nelson, the chief strategist at Allendale Inc. who has tracked the market for 15 years.

Feedlots are losing $300 a head this month fattening cattle for slaughter, after corn surged 61 percent since June 15
, University of Missouri data show. JBS (JBSS3) SA, the largest beef producer, fast-food chain Wendy’s Co. (WEN) and Red Robin Gourmet Burgers Inc. are among those planning price increases. The USDA expects food inflation of as much as 4 percent in 2013, compared with an average of 3 percent since 2004. A United Nations gauge of global food costs jumped 6.2 percent in July.

“We’ve had a huge liquidation off of pastures,” said Walt Hackney, 74, who buys and sells 250,000 cattle a year in Omaha, Nebraska, and has worked in the livestock business for about a half century. “It’s all due to the drought. There’s no grass for them to graze on.”
Eight Commodities

After rising 12 percent since late April, cattle are now 2.9 percent higher for the year at $1.24925. The Standard & Poor’s GSCI Agriculture Index of eight commodities advanced 18 percent since the start of January, and the MSCI All-Country World Index of equities added 8.3 percent. Treasuries returned 1.8 percent, a Bank of America Corp. Index shows.

Beef output in the U.S., the world’s largest producer, will drop 3.9 percent to 24.575 billion pounds (11.147 million metric tons) next year, the lowest since 2004, the USDA estimates. The domestic herd across ranches, feedlots and dairies dropped to 97.8 million head on July 1, the smallest for the date in at least 39 years, the latest data show.

The domestic price of beef will rise as much as 5 percent next year, more than any other food group including fruits, cereals and dairy products, the USDA estimated on July 25. Pork may increase by 3.5 percent and poultry 4 percent, the agency said. Retail ground-beef averaged $3.085 a pound in July, the highest since at least 1984, and whole chickens were $1.454 a pound last month, the highest in at least 32 years, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

They are way under estimating the losses.... My note
Eating Corn

Cattle spend 12 to 18 months eating grass before they are sent to feedlots, where they consume mostly corn for five months until they are fat enough for slaughter. The drought has left pastures in the worst condition since at least 1995, with 59 percent rated poor or very poor on Aug. 19, the government estimates. The corn harvest will drop 13 percent this year to 10.779 billion bushels, the USDA said Aug. 10. The grain reached a record $8.49 a bushel in Chicago that day.

Prices for hay, the third-biggest domestic crop by value, have also surged. This year’s alfalfa harvest will probably be the smallest since 1953, and the price of meal made from the crop was $334 a ton yesterday in Kansas City, Missouri, up from as low as $239 a year earlier, the USDA estimates.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-year-low-on-feed-cost-surge-commodities.html
 

bbkaren

Veteran Member
You should also note that you get considerably less Kraft Mac & Cheese in that box for the increased price.
 

Tennessee gal

Veteran Member
I talked to a family member today and she said she couldn't believe the price increases in canned goods at her local Aldis. She said prices were up 20-30 cents per can.
 

Troke

Deceased
As I continually rant, one way or another, the Lesser Classes will eat less meat. This has been hoped for at least since the 1950's when I first ran across it. Looks like they are getting closer.
 

m.anderson

Veteran Member
I made a prep run to the grocery store today. I struck up a conversation with the cashier and mentioned that I remember when Kraft macaroni and cheese was fifty cents a box. She said that she remembers when it was 3 for a dollar. I said yup, when it was on sale. I said something about how food probably will never be as cheap as it is now. She said what people don't realize is that when this harvest comes in this fall, it is going to be gone, that's it.

What did she mean bt it is going to be gone that's it?
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
Everything that everything you eat is made from: wheat, corn, soy, etc.

Wheat is harvested in the early summer not fall

- hence my confusion on her fall comment.

and I've seen lots of and lots of corn harvested in the summer

- hence my confusion on her fall comment.
 

bbkaren

Veteran Member
Rather than dwelling on the details, I would just assume that the grocery store cashier doesn't know when all these crops are harvested and just assumed it was in the fall like we learned in school - you know, thanksgiving time.
 

Bullwinkle

Membership Revoked
I talked to a family member today and she said she couldn't believe the price increases in canned goods at her local Aldis. She said prices were up 20-30 cents per can.

You must have really expensive canned goods when that 20 to 30 cents is at the reported 3% inflation rate.
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
"Ditto" I do not understand that part of the comment. Sounds like she is saying there will be no more food?

I thought it was odd also. She wasn't a teenager. She was a middle aged woman. She mumbled something about animals and feed and something else. She did not seem optimistic at all!!!
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
This year you might get a chance to try Canadian black Angus beef, fed on the greenest pastures and best hay we have cropped in years.......lots of rain and 2 or 3 hay cuts for many farmers in Alberta and Sask. I don't believe anyone is culling their herds so there should be lots of yummy meat for the export market......if you can afford it!

No matter what anyone says, there really is a big difference in the taste of Canadian beef over American meat. We love the restaurants which advertise Canadian angus beef - makes us feel right at home.

We rarely buy cans of food at our house except for salmon or clams or tuna, preferring to spend more and buy fresh and cook from scratch, so I don't know if canned goods are going up here. Won't affect our family much. But fresh seafood is horribly expensive, now that lobster season is over.

And here the harvest might not be done until well into fall - my DH's brother was born Nov 4 and they were harvesting the day that "granpa" was told he had another son, and there was even some snow on the ground.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Or privy to some information........?

If one is listening to the news at all then one knows that this years harvest is a bust and this is all across the board. If one is listening for two weeks straight on the nightly news they mentioned every single night the price increases to be expected for beef, chicken, eggs, cereal, etc.
 

Y2kO

Inactive
I don't understand her comment.

What do you harvest in the fall?

GMO corn and soy. I've already harvested my crops: 25 quarts of green beans, squash, canned pickles and relish, dried onions, frozen tomato sauce, etc. I canned pears last night. Due to the drought, there won't be much else.

But yes, meat probably will disappear from the shelves after all the farmers are forced to ship them to be butchered.
 

umhurricane

Inactive
We have 2 grocery stores in town. We used to have three but Winn Dixie went out of business when Wal-Mart came to town.
I try to shop as much as I can at the local grocery store (Piggly Wiggly) it's family owned and been around forever. Unfortunately they have limited space so I have to go to Wal-Mart or drive 40 miles to get to a Winn Dixie or Publix for items they don't carry.

I HATE going into Wal-Mart, I Hate giving them my money. But with gas being $3.70 a gallon an 80 mile round trip is out of the question.

I went into Wal-Mart yesterday to pick up a few things that were on my list, I checked my reciept against the last time I was in there 2 weeks ago, there wasn't one item that hadn't jumped by at least .08 some were higher by .25. My bill jumped from $85.60 to $115.96that's $30.27.

Unfortunately, it's only going to get worse. I have a friend who works at Wal-Mart at night, he stocks shelves. I mentioned this to him today. He asked if I noticed how the shelves were stocked. On some aisles the the items are limited to about 2 deep and nothing behind them. Also the variety of items are not there and the aisles are shrinking. He said the supply and demand problems are already starting to happen.

Apparently it's going to be happening sooner than alot of us thought it would. I have decided when my check comes in this month I will definitely be "over stocking".
 

Old Futz

Inactive
Information from a person in restaurant management in the Middle Atlantic states from their suppliers to expect their wholesale commodity prices to rise approximately 25% by late winter. That seemed extreme, but the figure was repeated.
 

ted

Veteran Member
Wheat is harvested in the early summer not fall

- hence my confusion on her fall comment.

and I've seen lots of and lots of corn harvested in the summer
- hence my confusion on her fall comment.


My son is working wheat harvest right now, next are bonzo's and dry pea's.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Wheat is harvested in the early summer not fall

- hence my confusion on her fall comment.

There are two wheat harvests one for spring wheat and one for winter wheat and it all depends on where you live as to which one they are planting and harvesting.

K-
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I paraphrased her. She may not have used the word fall and may have just said, "when the harvest comes in."
She mumbled a list of crops. Corn being one of them.

AGAIN but just a little bit slower... this is not breaking news... this news about the grain shortages has been on the nightly news for the past six weeks or more and every night for the past two weeks.

Got preps??? Cause if you don't your screwed. Iowa State, NOAA, and the USDA are saying that this drought is going to continue through the winter into next year, it's going to be a warm dry winter and an even hotter, drier summer next year.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
and I've seen lots of and lots of corn harvested in the summer

- hence my confusion on her fall comment.

Corn is harvested here in September to October, in a normal year. Where do you live that you see corn being harvested in the Summer???

K-
 

Dinghy

Veteran Member
I passed by a truck selling corn on Main Street on my way out of town yesterday. It's a good thing nobody was in front of me or I probably would have run into them. The man's sign said "sweet corn $5 a dozen"!
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
While the cashier's remarks about food being "gone" in the fall may be erroneous as to various harvests and when they are reaped, it seems to me she could be one of the sheeple just waking to the dire future consequences of the horrible ag conditions that are, as has been previously stated, making the news every night. Since she works in a grocery store, who better to see first hand the incredible price jumps that are just getting started? Even if there were no harvest problems, many ordinary people are going to be stocking up because of the news stories, which only drives prices up and availability down.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
While the cashier's remarks about food being "gone" in the fall may be erroneous as to various harvests and when they are reaped, it seems to me she could be one of the sheeple just waking to the dire future consequences of the horrible ag conditions that are, as has been previously stated, making the news every night. Since she works in a grocery store, who better to see first hand the incredible price jumps that are just getting started? Even if there were no harvest problems, many ordinary people are going to be stocking up because of the news stories, which only drives prices up and availability down.

Even one of my very dear friends, who normally ignores stuff like stocking up though she does have a small pantry, started stocking up on grains and such. I'm seeing more and more people in Aldi's and Sam's club buying the case lots/flats instead of one or two items out of the case. Dried beans are becoming harder and harder to find locally and the price has jumped big time as well.

K-
 

Warthog

Tusk Up
I made a prep run to the grocery store today. I struck up a conversation with the cashier and mentioned that I remember when Kraft macaroni and cheese was fifty cents a box. She said that she remembers when it was 3 for a dollar. I said yup, when it was on sale. I said something about how food probably will never be as cheap as it is now. She said what people don't realize is that when this harvest comes in this fall, it is going to be gone, that's it.
A days wages for a loaf of bread.
 
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